Name one successful left wing government. You cannot. Either it collapsed out of degeneracy, or moderated so it was centrist. You may say, USSR. That relied on grain imports from the USA the entire cold war, or they would have starved.The left wing disprove themselves, time and again. All copies of leftist books, lgbtq books, need to be burned.
>>18501349bureacrats have never run a successful government, monarchies and aristocracies have lasted for thousands of years.not a single bureaucratic state lasted longer than 300.
>>18501349>Socialist pan-Africanist (his words, not mine)>turns his country into a First World nation>restores democracy because he got bored with running a socialist one-party state and felt like retiring
It doesn't matter. Running a country is boring. Revolution and guerilla warfare are the only things worth doing.
>>18501354His country has one fifth the population of my city and I live in a small city.
>>18501352not a single bureaucratic state lasted longer than 300.All chinese dynasties were bucreucratic states
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>>18501349The United States under FDR lmao
the USSR was not leftist.the united states bombs all actual leftist nations into oblivion or installs their own politicians into leftist nations to force authoritarian capitalist puritanical bullshit into the culture until they all end up turning into horrible shitholes. the united states does this because nations succeeding despite not adhering to the authoritarian capitalist framework the US government pushes as the only possible viable framework makes people question if they're being fed propaganda and that's unacceptable to the US government.it's the same reason why christians want gay people executed, the notion of people being happy despite living in "sin" while the bible says a person who lives in their prescribed definition of "sin" is contradictory and to a believer of any abrahamic faiths this cognitive dissonance is unacceptable and must be violently suppressed rather than interrogated and understood
>>18501379The United States as a whole is 'left' in the original meaning. That is, republican, secularist, and open to the common man. >>18501349As I said above, the US. In any conventional notion of success, the US has done extremely well. It's long-lived, it's been able to provide a solid standard of living for its people, it has enormous cultural influence reaching both the upper and lower classes in foreign countries, and its industries have reshaped the modern world. The only countries which really out-perform the US typically do so by selecting one of the above and then prioritizing it to the neglect of the others (Europe prioritizing standard of living over military, China prioritizing industry over standard of living, etc.), and even in those instances, they're leftist and most often mere variants of the same system that the US has.
>>18501379the US will never be better than it was under him
>>18501391>In any conventional notion of success, the US has done extremely well. It's long-livedIt eradicated its founding stock and ceased to be a nation state thanks to jewish subversion.It is now a mere golem.It failed.
>>18501400It's not eradicated. It's just not a politically meaningful category. >and ceased to be a nation state thanks to jewish subversionHow? There is very clearly an American culture and a set of American values that are both immediately recognizable to people outside the US. Nation states aren't exclusively ethnostates. >It failed.It didn't. The US has been so enormously successful that the entire planet has undergone a political paradigm shift to respond to American values, either adopting them or rejecting them. European countries more closely resemble the US than ever before because American success has been so exceptional and the French Revolution, a kind of instantiation of the US on the continent, was also very successful (in certain respects; though less successful than the US overall). Furthermore, the continued existence of the US, with its active proselytization of its values, has made possible conversations about freedom of speech in countries where this wouldn't be a thing. There are dissidents from all over the world who use American platforms to speak out against oppression and, in extreme circumstances, can relocate to the US and avoid execution.
>>18501391Based. VIVARES PUBLICA
>>18501412>It's not eradicated. It's just not a politically meaningful category.That's the equivelant of eradication.To lose any political power (as a racial group) in the very nation you created is nothing short of an utter failure.Not only was the founding stock politically eradicated, it was also demographically replaced.> There is very clearly an American culture and a set of American values that are both immediately recognizable to people outside the US. Like what exactly...? What people call Americansm today basicly comes down to whatever Hollywood defines as "America". > Nation states aren't exclusively ethnostates.It's almost impossible to maintain a nation state without being an ethnostate, desu.> It didn't. It did, it failed to protect it's founding stock, therefore it failed. > The US has been so enormously successful that the entire planet has undergone a political paradigm shift to respond to American valuesThat's just the result of WWII leaving America as the only intact industrialised country.> Furthermore, the continued existence of the US, with its active proselytization of its valuesThe US ceased to exist as a sovereign state and is now merely a puppet for international institutions, it has no "values".> There are dissidents from all over the world who use American platforms to speak out against oppression and, in extreme circumstances, can relocate to the US and avoid execution.American online platforms exists for the sole purpose of spreading chaos, astro turfing and launching color revolutions, which is why semi competent states ban them.
>>18501440That's not the equivalent of eradication. The descendants of those people still exist, they just don't organize along those lines. People don't organize around having brown hair. There are no brunettism political parties. But brown hair still exists. >Like what exactly...?Read Jean Baudrillard's America to get an understanding of how Europeans see American people and society. Everything is different. The speed of the people and the country, the colonial and missionary spirit which bubbles up everywhere, the ambitiousness and self-starting culture that accompanies it, the self-reliance, the independence, the hysteria, the seriousness of everything, the pugnaciousness, the pomp, the vigor. There are entire philosophic movements that were happening in Europe that barely existed in the US and vice versa. >It's almost impossible to maintain a nation state without being an ethnostate, desu.Almost. Yet the US has managed it. The US is the civic nationalist state par excellence. Every other country on Earth wishes it could assimilate the way Americans do. The US is so good at this that even ethnic minorities feel Americanized. Nobody has a sense of wrongness when they see an American sports team dominated by blacks or an American lab filled with Asians. But in other countries that's seen as comical, if not patently absurd. >It did, it failed to protect it's founding stock, therefore it failed.This is a goal you're projecting onto the US which is alien to the goals it claims for itself. The US was a champion of the Enlightenment because of its values and abstract ideals. Not because of its ethnocentrism. >That's just the result of WWII leaving America as the only intact industrialised country.The USSR was still industrialized. But what do you think glasnost and perestroika were trying to model? What do you think Deng Xiaoping was trying to do?
>>18501440>The US ceased to exist as a sovereign state and is now merely a puppet for international institutionsFunny because every other Western country complains about feeling like an American vassal. They complain about the US dominating international institutions like the UN. >it has no "values"It does, it just doesn't always reflect them in an ideal way. Even still, the US stands for things like freedom of speech and individual liberty in a way no other country does. As I said before, the existence of the US and American values opens up discourse in foreign countries that wouldn't otherwise exist. >American online platforms exists for the sole purpose of spreading chaos, astro turfing and launching color revolutions, which is why semi competent states ban them.Those other states ban them because they want to redirect people into their own social media which is more repressive. The US is one of the few places that has resisted calls to mass social media censorship which now exists in basically every other Western country.
>>18501440>muh founding stockvibes based nonsense unless you can actually clarify >like what exactly…?Overweening idealism, constant commodification of everything, libertarianism, puritanism?>ethnostatesThe United States was never going to be able to remain an ethnostate to whatever degree it ever was one>that’s just the result of WWIIYeah, and?>it has no “values”Maybe you don’t but if so you can fuck off>the sole purpose of spreading chaosOh sorry I didn’t realize you were a retard
>>18501397It was better off during the post-war era, and will never be better than that.
>>18501349China
Modern Canada, on the basis that the entire Canadian political question is "how can we NOT be like the USA"? The USA is on average center-right, thus Canada will be on average center-left.
>>18501349What is your definition of "leftist" for your question anyway? And don't give me vague bullshit, provide a real criterion.
>>18501354whites do better pan-africanism than blacks do
>>18501354New obscure historical figure just got unlocked
>>18501919>What is your definition of "leftist" for your question anywayPeople on this board never answer this question because they have to shy away from the fact that their bar for being leftist has been lowered to "anyone who doesn't believe in exterminating every last nigger". Under which criteria most actual IRL right wingers including the republican party are "leftists".
>>18501352>monarchies and aristocracies have lasted for thousands of years.without getting into civil wars and periods of instability?
>>18501349The US constitution is a liberal document.You say never, but you clearly mean recent history & dont GAF about actual history. Political scum.
>>18501349No one has ever successfully run a country, leftist or otherwise.
>>18502977>their bar for being leftist has been lowered to "anyone who doesn't believe in exterminating every last nigger"You fags are constantly accused others of what you are. This is 4chan, a retarded animu website, not Stormfront. Calm the fuck down.
>>18502986Do you people even knows the difference between a liberal, free market government and an actual leftwing communist government?America is the former, not the latter.
>>18501400"eradicated it's founding stock"Dude, what the fuck? There's still plenty of white people around.
>>18501400I'm founding stock. My 9th Great Grandfather was the founder of a local colony in New England and our family denounces Vishnu saaar
