https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHUBXfJ71pwWe have been egalitarian for about 95% of our existence on this earth. For the most part, we did not have formal leadership established until about 13,000 to 10,000 years ago. Before then, we all hunted.We all gathered. We all raised the babies. We have established and observable evidence of this all across the world. Now, the concept of men leading and women following is not and has never truly been biological.
>>18501947Dimorphism exists for a reason.
>>18501947God created woman as a helper. God stands above all.
>>18501961Males evolved after females.
>>18501969source dude trust me
>>18501992Well, at first it was isogamous strategies which are asexual, which then evolved into anisogamy. Sperm evolved after eggs so females evolved before males. Males are derived from females, not the other way around.
>>18501956>Dimorphism exists for a reason.What reason is that?
>>18502020To disprove your nonsense.
>>18502022>To disprove your nonsense.Such as? I haven’t made any claims, I want to know what yours are.
>>18501947The institutions we have today are a largely degraded version of the codification of informal leadership of tribal bands in the past.Men DID lead women and always have, men have the traits we would expect to see and women lack the traits we would expect them to lack if this were the case.The "concept" of men leading women is rooted entirely in biology as men are stronger, smarter, more rational, and more reasonable.Everyone being poor is not egalitarianism.A highschool or a prison has hierarchy. Children naturally form into hierarchies.It is a modern thing where hierarchies are suppressed.People WANT to follow a wise and just leader for the same reason children want to be around their parents.
>>18501947contemporary hunter-gatherers don't have chieftains? what stops an aggressive man to lord over others, perhaps helped by his brothers and sons?
>>18502023>I haven’t made any claimsLol. The OP is refuted by dimorphism.
>>18501956femoids btfo
>>18501969humans evolved after apes
>>18501947> Before then, we all hunted.We all gathered. We all raised the babies. We have established and observable evidence of this all across the world.Sexual dimorphism and contemporary hunter-gatherers disagree. Women mostly gathered and men mostly hunted. There was obviously some flex, but that's how things were. I recall women only hunting as often as men in societies where poisonous weapons are easily made.
>>18501947Yeah, I'm sure that women, who are 50% weaker, have regular periods, get pregnant, give birth, and have to rear children (no birth control back then either) were DEFINITELY doing all the same stuff men were. Biology is a social construct, yeah I get it. Now take your meds, faggot retard.
>>18501947How do they explain the multiple massacre sites where exclusively women were found along with the children and elderly?
>>18501947We were more egalitarian before WWII.Fucking boomers.
>>18502138should've nagged less
>>18502138the able bodied men died in battle and the rest were slaughtered
>>18501947Didn't watch but it's obviously revisionist slop created in order to justify modern progressive attitudes on sex equality. There is every reason to believe that primitive humans were more unipolar in expression of physical and behavioral sex-characteristics, becoming more androgynous with the rise of civilization and more especially modernity.
>>18501947>We have established and observable evidence of this all across the worldOr, you do since13000-10000 years ago, rather. More recently than that even. Among the Gravettians / ANE you would see extreme /K selection. To raise children they would have been breast feeding them for 2-3 years. This alone breaks any retard's model for trying to apply that to anyone living in the Holocene along rivers or coasts, which is far easier and more sedentary and less stratified. But before the LGM You had men averaging nearly 180 cm, towering over their foyim, and tracking mammoth and other megafauna to butcher and process from nose to tail, while fighting disease, every type of cold imaginable and actual apex predators with wood and rocks. Basically everything that prevented death was what they could pry and shape out of a cold and brutal world, or what far more sedentary women could craft back at their camps. Environmental manipulation and extremely specialized persistence hunting was their only means of surviving. This went on for the vast majority of our recent evolution btw. Nearly 3x your figure of the past 13,000 years. Almost all behaviorally modern traits evolved under the former conditions rather than the latter. Your lineal ancestors btw not the wildlings some anthropologist went to observe a few decades ago.
>>18501947>We have been egalitarian for about 95% of our existence on this earth.It's not possible to determine this with any certainty, anyone telling you they can is highly mistaken. They are basically practicing haruspecy with pre-historic garbage and remains at that point.>For the most part, we did not have formal leadership established until about 13,000 to 10,000 years ago.That doesn't preclude informal leadership or other forms of hierarchy. I'm not even sure it's true. And for the record, while obviously no two societies have identical attitudes toward women, inequality and hierarchization predominated above the opposite in most cases. Especially notable are the societies of pre-colonial australia.>Before then, we all hunted. We all gathered. We all raised the babies.Technically we still all do those things to an extent. But using the terms so generally seems like a total waste of time.>Now, the concept of men leading and women following is not and has never truly been biological.Women are the subordinate group more often and not, anyway. Though the idea that thirteen thousand years ago golden haired apollo descended from the heavens to bestow upon some caveman the spark of intelligence and invent patriarchy/hierarchy/etc is pretty funny.
>Cavewoman thread>Nobody talking about wanting to fuck cavewomen
>>18501947>before civilization, men did not lead women>this is why men leading women us bad for civilizationOk homo
Division of labor predates agriculture because not everyone in the tribe was equally good at everything, meaning certain jobs ended up falling to certain people more, causing them to become more adept at those jobs, leading them to specialize in those.
>>18502895>>18503075You lost
>>18503555 Did you know that in terms of sheer sexual ferocity and power, Neanderthal women put Humans away. Female Neanderthals had an average hip circumference of 70 inches (almost 6 feet around!) with hip adductor and pelvic floor muscles that outsize and outpower some of the most experienced modern male weightlifters, it's estimated an adult Neanderthal woman could easily hip thrust 315 lbs. for reps and put full intent into each thrust. Although this sounds great, remember that (depending on positioning) it can take as little as 2000 newtons (450 lbs.) to disrupt a pelvic ring. While Neanderthals may not be able to sustain long aerobically demanding activities she can certainly stop to catch her breath while holding onto you with her massive quads and abductors before initiating again with each go-around being more impactful than the last. The vaginal contractions alone would be able to lift you off the floor like a vice. If you even try to pull out of these kegel queens, her grip (which has been recorded to be able to break bone) and widen pectoral muscles would allow her to pin you down for excruciating amounts of time all while aggressively pounding into your pubic bone like a hydraulic press. It's not a quite experience obviously, Neanderthals were found to have been able make loud high-pitched howls and shrieks similar to coyotes and were probably very vocal during coitus.
I want you to rationalize this.Men, especially a pack of men, can not function correctly as a hunting party when a woman is thrown into the mix. Men naturally will compete with each other and jeopardize their lives just to get the admiration of a woman. They will fight, tooth and nail, to breed with her. Women just naturally fuck shit up. They can not compartmentalize things to the same extent as a man because they have a flurry of hormones rushing through them at any given moment.They are not as robust, even in prehistoric times where pretty much everyone had much denser bone structures and were significantly stronger than our modern counter-parts. They still did not compare to men in physicality. We can easily attest to this fact from archeological findings showing that the majority of the men endured greater trauma than the women, trauma similar to that of rodeo riders. Men were more willing and stronger to both fight in close-quarters or strategize an ambush with other men, women don't do this.Now, in terms of raising children. Why would men subject women to work and fight while they birthed their children and had to attend to them? You can make the argument that maybe elderly women attended to the young, but with what? Why? How? Most post-menopausal women can't lactate and don't have an interest in nursing. Outside of providing help to new mothers by showing them pointers on what to do, they aren't doing a lot besides maybe watching them or engaging in play once in a while.It takes a village to raise a child. Men provide for the women as much as they can and the women provide for the child. Women, especially during postpartum or the fourth trimester will almost never leave the side of their baby. Only sleeping when they sleep. If they don't rest and nurture themselves, they won't be able to feed their offspring.In conclusion, this is the stupid video and makes no sense in reality.Fuck you.
This is just a feminist who needs a good fucking and spanking.
>>18501992>jew in the sky made women to be helpers>source: dude trust me
Numerous anthropological myths arose in the 1960s where people attempted to project their pet theories on human society, searching for primitive communism, egalitarianism, matriarchy and acceptance of homosexuality like El Dorado. They take meme examples like a ceremonial wise woman and claim she secretly ruled everything not the chieftains and their warriors, or the fa'afafine of Samoa and claim they had transacceptance even though they weren't considered real women.In reality nearly every tribe assigned the roles of hunter and warrior to the men and women only secondarily if circumstances demanded it. We can see today 14 year old boys far outperforming adult women pros in sports, so unless they were very young, very old or disabled, they would get priority over the women while women perform other roles, childbirth so the tribe can continue on being one of them. Consider that famine, war and disease were commonplace in these societies they couldn't afford to do anything uneconomical, they would generally train all their boys from infancy in the most physically demanding tasks and had a clear "division of labor" along gender lines.This of course is controversial among feminists, they are obviously concerned with anything that implies women are inferior, there are also parallels with modern "diversity" where men are to be discriminated against in favor of less qualified women, but to start denying facts and spitting venom at anyone acknowledging them it just silly and paranoid and doesn't actually benefit the cause. Whoever is "inferior" or "superior", it doesn't change the facts.>>18502020Whatever reason we evolved dimorphism. You don't need to recount the entirety of human history to acknowledge a fact.
>>18503555/his/ is a proudly homofascist board.>>18503606Where there's a will there is way.>>18503772As if the heap of salvaged 19th century prejudices repurposed for modern anxieties you are carrying around is any better.Neither should be dismissed out of hand.
>>18503983>modern anxieties Therapy language belongs to tiktok.
>>18504030The word has existed since Tudor times. You shouldn't swear off entire parts of your language on a whim.
>>18503555>>18503704They probably had awful breath and stinky ass. I wouldn't.
Women are delicate princeases and are not made for work.
>>18501956Uh huh. Did you know that human sexual dimorphism is actually really low-tier compared to most animals?
>>18501947Division of labour between the sexes is a human universal. Egalitarian play pretend is not.A hilarious feature of progressive narratives is their throwback to the "lost paradise" mythology they learned in Sunday school, but repainted with progressive colours. They MUST believe that their latest fad in gender-neutral make-believe was always the "state of nature". Accordingly, reality is the false, fallen condition, and tradition is the act of aggression on the incorporeal, cosmopolitan "self", not what their subversion does to established truth.See the "ur-communalism" of Marx, or the "ancient fags and trannies" of GLBTWTFBBQ
>>18505064>Division of labour between the sexes is a human universalThat doesn't contradict the OP.>all that other profuse seethingWhy do you even care about any of this? You're not a true part of any human society and you're not going to have any progeny.
>>18504778>uh uhDumb troon look at sports or chess or whatever Dimorphism is real and very visible >but what about sea elephants Dumb troon we're human, not aquatic megafauna
>>18504778Only for general size. Once one factors in the strength differential and body composition it's about on par with the other great apes.>>18501947>we did not have formal leadership established until about 13,000 to 10,000 years agoWe barely had surpluses as a species until 10,000 years ago. It's pretty clear from human history that once surpluses can be accumulated, stored, tracked, and protected, human society tends to get much more stratified.>we all raised the babiesAnd we've kept doing that. Current day feminists get asshurt that the person the baby physically comes out of may be deemed by society to have a bit more responsibility to it.
>>18503606Were they wrong though?
>>18502138Um, well, you see...uh...
