will christfags ever admit arianism made more sense and the holy trinity just makes their fairy tale make less sense and it's just unessecary mental gymnastics?
>>18502411IF YOU WERE NOT RETARDED, YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT ARIANISM, ACTUALLY, MAKES NO SENSE.
>>18502415why
>>18502424THE NOTION OF JESUS CHRIST AS BEING A MERE CREATURE DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR CHRIST'S ACTUAL SOTERIOLOGICAL ROLE.
>>18502460It does, cope
>>18502411The only people who pretend not to understand the trinity are Muslims. You can draw a simple diagram of it for them on a piece of paper and they will still LARP that they have no idea what you’re talking about.
>>18502411Arians believe in a trinity, just not a Nicene one.
>>18502507Most of American lay christians answer "yes" if asked whether Jesus Christ is God's greatest creation.
>>18502424God has no potency. He has no room for addition to his nature because his nature is by definition completely sufficient and perfect. In order for God to create the son, he would have to go from a state of having no son to having one.
>>18502507cope, most christians don't understand the trinity
if the trinity is true and jesus is god then hanging on the chross wasn't really a sacrifice. you christfags can argue against it with your pseudointellectual copes but anyone with a rational mind can see throught your bullshit
>god sent himself to earth to die as a sacrifice to himself, to serve as a loophole for rules that he made
>>18502548The cross satisfies infinite justice and infinite mercy, both of which are attributes of God. God cannot let sin go unpunished, yet he can’t not show mercy. Thus the second person of the trinity incarnates and takes the due punishment for mankind upon himself. The debt of sin is paid, and mercy is offered.
>>18502411It's already retarded to have Jesus be a schizo god that talks to himself rather than just a demigod like Heracles, but it gets even worse when you realize that the holy spirit is literally just a mana bar granted sentience and personhood for some reason.
>>18502554retarded nonargument, make your narrative make sense before writing this gay ass bs
>>18502548Jesus let himself get hit by the demiurge's car so he could sue him for millions of demiurge dollars (the only currency the demiurge accepts) in the celestial court. Then the demiurge was broke, but he still had a whole world to take care of, so Jesus made a deal with him where he would give the money back under the condition that any of the demiurge's creatures (us) who wanted to leave him would be allowed to do so. And because Jesus' Dad is absurdly wealthy (his Father's house has many mansions), in order to prevent beings from leaving the demiurge world only to become homeless, he decided to offer free room and board indefinitely to anyone who did decide to leave so long as they're willing to follow basic moral rules and not ruin the place.
>>18502507>a simple diagramhere’s one for you kuffar
You know that makes me think, the trinity was like sacred to christcels this fundamentally wrong thing was so true, it will take a lot of time to undo that if ever.
>>18502763My only concern is that that when Christians realize their religion doesn't understand its own book, many of them might reject Christianity in favor of Judaism or Islam, and it will take who knows how long for them to accept that all the Abrahamics are in about the same boat. Lots of Christians seem to already be in wannabe-Jew territory, and they haven't been fully vaccinated against Islam yet.
>>18502767curse vishnu
>>18502777Vishnu might be a fictional character, but I'm not very familiar with him, so I won't curse him anymore than I would curse Jesus, since I do like Jesus. It's bad juju. Now do your victory dance over having ferreted out a brown person even though I'm actually white.
>>18502790curse shiva
>>18502790I shouldn't have jumped to the racist assumption since the discussion is about religion, but that's from spending more than ten minutes on /pol/ at some point.
>>18502554word salad.
>>18502554>God cannot
>>18502411Arians were Trinitarians retard. They were even closer to Hellenic paganism in making Jesus this lesser god. The non-Trinitarians were Jewish sects and Muslims.
