North and South Italian cognitive divide is ancient and stablehttps://davidepiffer.com/p/how-old-are-differences-between-northernEven in Ancient times, Northerners have higher PGS scores for EA (intelligence proxy).
Reich on a podcast recently was talking about EA. Might have something to do with executive function he floated out there as a guess, maybe tied to ability to identify and use social/language nuance or something. Either way, I'm siding with the southerners.
>>18502912>I'm siding with the southerners.why?
>>18503243KARA BOGA
>>18503243Just am, simple as. EA/IQ split is interesting to me. Maybe EA has something to do with the nature of language processing and from there what we've taken to curiosity. Distinct from but connected to like wits and speed IG/g intelligence. Know this from my personal life where the quickest guy I know has 0 interest in anything abstract or academic. Version of Bill Burr kind of if you gave Bill Burr some working memory. Definitely environmental roles here but MAYBE something like this is captured by these polygenic measures.
>>18503628But isn't the most parsimonious explanation just that they are on average of lower human capital than the North (who are themselves in the very highest tier of European human capital)? The evidence is overwhelming from all directions. PISA scores, historical achievements, IQ scores, development of cities, cleanliness
>>18502864Based trvkemedjeets obliterated
>>18502912>maybe tied to ability to identify and use social/language nuance or somethingCoal drivel, it's just higher conscientiousness.
https://x.com/DavidePiffer/status/2060412208530563437Medjeets are absolutely boiling in the comments lmao
>>18505160David Piffer would be mistaken for a Nafri in Sicily.
>>18502864>>18502912What is EA
>>18505201Educational attainment. Intelligence proxy.
>>18505164Irrelevant.
>>18505086Human capital is a perfect phrasing. Captures the cancer in all of this.
>>18506879Elaborate? It's not really meant to be something deep. We all intuitively understand that certain things are better than others. Higher intelligence is generally better, being more conscientious is generally better, being cleaner is better, beauty is superior to ugliness. Accomplishment is valuable and differentiates etc.
>>18502864>''research'' done by a schizo with a blog who believes he can move objects with his mind
>>18507011Value = state-brain. Outside in, soulless, beauty = obviously mostly subjective even if with stats goggles on there's relative uniformity. High IQ = that'd be nice, overrated. I'm at work I'll come back and think about this carefully. You just wait. I'm going to think the fuck out of this eventually.
>>18505164This race drivel stirred up by these north italian chudcels is ridiculous for anyone who touches grass
according to EA polygenic scores Uyghurs and Vietnamese are expected to have more educational attainment than all Europeans, Bronze Age Greeks were less intelligent than Vikings (even though their IQ polygenic scores were at the top in the same paper by Piffer) and Sardinians score the same as subsaharan Africansthere's clearly some linkage disequilibrium going on here making this all very questionable
>>18507142> Sardinians score the same as subsaharan AfricansYou're citing a low sample-size stat. They actually do better than literally all of them, even Nubians and the Beja.> all EuropeansBasque's outscore them.
>>18507142>>18507159> Bronze Age Greeks were less intelligent than VikingsIf memory serves correct, he's claimed previously that he had access to at least a hundred Viking genomes and found them to be half an SD below modern Euros, meanwhile reporting a bronze age greek average higher than is typical for the euros of today.
>>18507164> half an SD below modern Euros, meanwhile reporting a bronze age greek average higher than is typical for the euros of today.In EA, which is very superior to the direct IQ PGS as a predictor of intelligence.
That's a blog and no one takes this guy seriously. Recently he whined that Akbari didn't cite him, lol. I don't know why this shitty website always gravitates towards fringe ideas and morons while basically ignoring real scientists.
Another study not published anywhere? Another study where ancestry isn't even mentioned? Literally different people lived in Italy back then.
>>18507202Love that about this site though. Even if >90% is kook shit, occasionally there are grains of truth or points of interest that are going to be blocked away by polite society programs. It's only a problem when people jump to the conclusion that "forbidden wisdom" is all actual wisdom and non-forbidden isn't. Part of the reddit 4chan dialectic. Trust the plan.
>>18507011Didn't catch the qualifiers earlier. Basically agree just pedantically not with the leap I'd assume you'd make beyond the "human capital" label. "Therefore northerners are superior," that leap, ranking humans like we're doing a watch mojo based on traits that lead to success in modern states etc. Would also tackle this using the same tools and north vs south framework. For instance, do the happy Danes (there's a faulty self-report social psych measure that actually is important just not to be trusted, are these people happier--they do have lower depression scores--AND loving or are they increasing world or community misery for slightly elevated serotonin?) have higher ASPD pgs's than neighbors who happen to have more EEF ancestry by any chance? Should be an answerable question now. If they don't, modern rule of law countries and probably rural Christian communities more generally might have been chiselling that trait down, no ancient blood superiority to be found, but have they been chiselling it down fast enough to combat the millennia of warrior and raiding cultures that would almost definitely have benefitted from nurturing genes associated with psychopathy and blunting feelings/limiting fear?
>>18505086Not really. That's a totally vague determination that would defy any quantitative comparison. You draw on enough criteria to tell any story you want."Oh, Tokyo is cleaner than Milan and the Japanese are higher IQ? Well Northern Italy has more historical achievements (never mind how we define that) thus they're equivalently superior."PISA score, urban development, and cleanliness are all determined by policy and funding and southern Italians have complained about systematic neglect from the state since unification.
>>18505203How is a gap in that "ancient and stable"?
>>18507873It's not. I've read some "studies" by this guy and they're all very amateurish. At best it's a coincidence as ancient populations from both regions aren't closely related to modern ones.
>>18507808Let me try to fix this. There's no ASPD pgs apparently. I'd bet if there were an ASPD pgs though, maybe it can be linked to something like courage the way SCZ might be linkable to creativity. High enough being a warrior is easy score, you're a psychopath. High enough I can paint my dreams and invent a tale, you're screaming on the subway. I stand by the sentiment though. Also apparently you can't really track EA3 ancestry group to ancestry group without major calibration.
