The Crusades is the equivalence to a kid who fights back against constant bullying, yet that same kid is the one who gets in trouble, not the bully.
>The crusaders is the equivant of a kid indoctrinated by racism and supremacism who beats the bipoc kid and steals his seat at lunchFify
>>18503897The Crusades happened 400 years after the Muslim conquest of the Holy Land.
>>18503897Which crusades?
>>18503910Is that what you went trough in school as an indian?
>>18503910Haha, your country still stones people to death for blasphemy because of Sharia law. It's actually a legal punishment that's on the books, even if it's only done unofficially.Fucking crazy, also it is current year.
>>18503944Why is the 'holy land' in the middle east? The area where jews are from specifically? Kind of odd for a supposed White faith.
>>18504146Since when is Christianity exclusive to a single nation?Also you're not white.
>>18504146Really? Persians are white. You "people" are so dumb.So what about the sack of Constantinople by the crusaders as well as other Christian cities?
It's just because they killed jews for some reason.
>>18504182To be fair most kills were accidental. They wanted to conquered the holy land not destroy it with war and sieges even though that's what ended happening.
>>18504159>ChristianityA literally jewish supremacist death cult psyopped into a universalist one by PaulHistorical rabbi jewsus called goyim pigs and dogs btw
>>18503897you're not a crusader joao paco de silvia sanchez
>>18503897>>18503910More like>Be bullied kid (Byzantines)>Ask for help from a bigger tough group of kids (the Crusaders) against your bully (the Turks)>Group of kids proceed to attack the bully's friends (Saracerns) instead of the bully for some retarded reason>Group of kids still demand shit from you but you tell them to fuck off while you deal with your bully with barely any help>Decades pass>Faggot bully is still trying to fuck you up even in adulthood>Now dealing with some family issues>Decide to ask again for the tough group, hoping they might not be retarded this time>Agree, but your sibling is the one who does the dealings and overestimates how much you're willing to give them in exchange for dealing with shit>Group arrives, demands payment. But turns out, you don't have enough>They burn your house down, destroy your livestock and leave>Rebuild>Bully comes back to burn your house down>Your descendants are poor and forgotten while the tough group and the bully's friends' descendants are now bickering over who was the REAL victim in this feud while your presence in the feud is completely fucking ignored>To add salt to the wound, there's some people acting like your bully was just a secondary element to the entire feud
>>18505080Regarding the IV you forgot:>butcher a bunch of your tough friend's brothers and cousins for some reason>ask the same guy whose brothers and cousins you just butchered to help you out against the bully >promise him money you don't have >he believes you and spends his own money for the expedition, expecting rightfully to be paid at the end>the end is here>ignore him as he waits to be paid outside your front door >cut off their food>expect them to leave peacefully after all this
>>18505080>WESTOIDS GIB ME GIBS AND HELP ME REEEEWhy are reekroaches like this? The andalusians went down honorably on their own instead of being kike tier beggars
>>18505084>>butcher a bunch of your tough friend's brothers and cousins for some reasonWhen the fuck did that happen?>>promise him money you don't have Already mentioned this as being the "sibling" here, that is to say Alexios IV Angelos. But then again a more accurate analogy would be:>Family drama happens, siblings bicker and one of them ask the tough guy friend group for help without your permissionAs that's more accurate>>ignore him as he waits to be paid outside your front door No shit, there was a regime change going on due to the retarded internal politics, part of which was caused by the Crusaders supporting Alexios IV. My point still stands that the initial cause of the Crusades was happening due to the Turks fucking up the Byzantines, the Byzantines asked for help and the Crusaders only obliged because they thought it would be convenient in the Orthodox-Catholic reconciliation and getting more land. That didn't happen, and the Crusaders just decided to keep fighting for the next few centuries to save face. The point is that both modern day Arabs (who mind you, historically the Saracerns gave zero fucks about the Crusades and called it the "Frankish Wars" for a reason, they cared more for the Mongols massacring them) and modern-day Westerners somehow bicker about who really started it and ignore the fact this only really started because of the Turks taking land from the Arabs. It's kinda like how retards keep trying to argue which nation started WWI and ignore the constant Serbian shitflinging and provocation that led to the spark being lit. >>18505088Not even Greek, faggot. I am just annoyed by retards like (You) trying to claim victimhood over the crusades and whining like little bitches and then being mad when the closest thing that the Crusades has to an actual victim is really brought up. Both Arabs and Westerners act like they are victims when they only came later after the original conflict was established.
>>18505096>when the fuck did that happen?Andronikos Granted, the Angeloi did not have much to do with it, but it was still fresh in the minds of Venetians although they probably cared more about the economic damage to their business than the lives lost For the rest I agree with you. Modern mainstream historiography tries to cast the Crusades in a different light, often forgetting the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) perspective.
>>18503897The Crusade is the equivalent to those Paradox strats where you ally with some-one bigger to fight your wars for you while you hold back and take a few Province. But then you piss off your ally and they burn down your capital, take your Empire.
>>18505103>Andronikos Interesting. Wasn't too aware of this incident, it explains the Venetian's wrath a lot better.>For the rest I agree with you. Modern mainstream historiography tries to cast the Crusades in a different light, often forgetting the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) perspective.Indeed, which is the problem I have. It's also used too much for political propaganda from every descendant of the participants when it was a far, far more nuanced conflict than most people present it as. Especially the media.
>>18504167>Really? Persians are whitewhat's next Jeets are white? Because ancestry wise Persians are closer to Jeets than the average white person. Day and again the fact that race is based on "vibes" and "general looks" rather than ancestry is proved by the same crowd that likes to chimp out about race being objective and scientific. /pol/tards and neo-nazis in general have a hyper-fixation on a specific non-white people group that they keep in a podium over other non-whites. Its usually the Japs.
>>18504167I hate when women pretend they are ugly just to mock is.>>18503897The crusades happened because Muslims stole Jerusalem and wouldn't let Christians pray there so the pope gathered the crowd and declared war on Islam lol.
>>18505337Why are you trans?
>>18504159>Since when is Christianity exclusive to a single nation?It is from the Levant. It never had any right to exist anywhere outside of the rural shithole it came from.
>>18503897The thing is that there are some ways that christians come after the end to the globe sphere, the difficult were that shiites and sunnis also come after the apocalypse to the meteor desert mecca trading square gods, christians were coming after the end to history and islam was also playing that same not what were the relation to Islam to prophecy and sort i am not sure do mormons believe about new prophecy or did that end with joseph smith anyway the christians to the crusades come thoroughly after the end to history and were fighting with islam about and part to that were just that crusader groups were just groups sailing around the mediterranean, if the only book on board were the pentateuch to many such cases that stands to cause that many crusader groups would end up at jerusalem just as from using the pentateuch as a means to reckoning or something like that
>>18503897>killing for ChristNah.