How were victorian era English women able to work and at the same time have 4 to 5 kids on average while living in slums? How come they did it yet now we can't even have a fertility rate of 2?
Because that never happened.Women largely didn't enter the workplace until during and then after WW2. In the event they did work before then they did that instead of having children, not as well as it.
>>18504496>a widely documented fact never happened.stfu you dumbass.
>>18504490Because everyone back then had much lower living standards and expectations. For a subsistence farmer or a victorian worker, just having a bowl of grain gruel and a wooden shack was "good enough" to raise children, who could be sent to work as soon as they could walk, making them a valuable investment with little upkeep. Nowadays, people expect to have comfortable finances, a professional education, and a good paying career before they can even consider children, who you must raise and upkeep for the next 20 years, with no guarantee that they will find a good job.
>>18504490>>18504515A lot of those women were also pressured if not forced into having kids with men that they were not attracted to really.
>>18504543People didn't marry outside their social class in those days so none of these women had husbands wealthier or more good-looking than themselves.
>>18504543>>18504546it was either marry the first guy that even saw interest in you, or become a prostitute
>>18504515So we should bring those standards down.>>18504543No one was forced anything. Stop making stuff up.
Sex makes babies. Angel making was a crime. You figure it out.
>>18504725It's very hard for those living in high income or even middle income countries to go back to lower standards, even as living conditions have decayed or stagnated in the west for the last couple decades. A lot of people see themselves as being above poverty, even if they are working three jobs or in mountains of debt, so they keep chasing that illusion of financial and material comfort that they will never get.
>>18504490No choice. Land removals, seisure of the Commons, and policies meant to accelrate mass movement of bodies into the city to accurate economic development at the cost of everything and the eviseration of the semi-urban and rural populations.
>>18504543Incel cope.
>>18505204Couldn't really say no if you don't want to have sex during a risky time of the month.
There was very little in the way of public entertainment or recreation back then, caring for children gave women something to do.
>>18505204How? Sounds more like a feminist view to me
>>18504490No pill.
>>18504490England during the nineteen hundreds seems absolutely ghastly
>>18506146*Eighteen hundreds
>>18506146*Two thousands
>>185044901914-1918 was not part of the Victorian era. With so many men called to fight in The Great War (as it was called then) women had to step up, as they would do in 1939-45 as well.
>>18505290Also there was no government pensions or anything, children were your old age insurance.
Women yearn for the slums.
>>18504490pill and abortion that is the main reason
>>18506260Nowadays a big issue is that Children can't support you at all. Imagine spending 20 years raising a child the best you can, and the he ends up becoming a broke Mcdonald's cashier or Uber Driver anyways
>>18506146England seems absolutely ghastly.
The dumber you are the more likely you are to have kids. Intelligent humans have a look at the current world and choose to not reproduce, because they don’t want to punish any new innocent human for no good reason.You put an ape in a poorly made zoo and it won’t reproduce naturally.Every time a dumb person (wage slave) makes a new human it’s almost like they are ok with the current state of the world and want to make a new one (wage slave) to deliver to their overlords to exploit, just like they were exploited.>Great apes in zoos often face unfavorable conditions that can negatively impact their reproduction, including limited space, psychological stress, and lack of natural social structures. These factors can lead to reduced reproductive success and overall poor health among captive populations.
