The 500 year old propaganda against this civilization is still very much alive in modern political discourse, the only other example I can think of in which an old civilization is brought up to somehow push an agenda in modern times is in the Israel vs Palestine conflict
>>18505410such as?
>>18505413You just posted it, nigger.
>>18505413I'm glad christkek nations are collapsing to the brown menace while your people turn against each other.
>>18505413why do moorberian troons depict themselves as blonde blue eyed women when the vast majority of them are brown?
>>18505413When did /pol/ start moralityfagging?One second they're edgelords making fun of burnt Jews the other they're defenders of kind conquistadors stopping human sacrifice and slavery.
>>18505418Holy kekking fuck lmao
I was really frustrated how after discovering mexico, cortes went on a moral mission to stop them from performing human sacrifices, freeing the prisoners in every town he came across, but then when the spanish-mexican war broke out he started enslaving the indians of the towns he occupied. That was when the spanish lost the moral high ground
The funny thing about the Indigenista vs Hispanista conflict is that modern day Mexico is more Northamerican than either Hispanic or Native
>>18505428Also no one in mexico actually practices catholicism anymore, god is dead everywhere and every country is a hyper-capiralist knock off of the shartmerican states, spicniards trying to claw their way back into relevancy by hyping up their shitty dead empire is pathetic
>>18505415what is it that you want exactly? to live in filth without literacy and sacrifice humans to your imaginary sky devils? that is how it literally was before the white man civilized you.your rage towards your saviors is like that of an ungrateful child towards its father
>>18505426>spanish-mexican warWtf are you talking about? The war of independence was the only "mexican-spanish war" and it occured centuries after Cortes died.
>>18505418>burning thousands at the stake for witchcraft>in the catholic middle ageswhy is this meme so prevalent?
>>18505437>/pol/tranny starts yapping about his headcanon of historyI'm tired, grandpa.
>>18505437>white manYou're quite literally a negroid rapebaby, juanito
>>18505440burning jews alive got recast as burning witches, back then jew religion was correctly identified as devil worship
>>18505437>source: I hate shitskins Aztecs bathed three times a day and had mandatory education. The conquistadors themselves documented this.
>Ayee caramba seenioot they sacrificed six gorillion trillion babies every second o algo>did I mention I'm a white aryan with zero moor blood ?????not even israeli kikes or jeets are as annoying with their nationalist propaganda as these moor rapebabies
Spicniards were savages>muh human sacrificePerfectly ethical in their society, only the normative moralizing christkek golem thinks the whole world had to conform to his believes.
>>18505413>16th century spics>modern sanitation
>>18505454Wrong, also your skin is brown unlike mine (I identify as a blonde blue eyed conquistador girl)Start worshipping el kike on the stick
>>18505439The country was called mexico, or atleast the valley where the core population lived was. It wasn't even an empire, but at alliance of three city-states. Most of the cities in the valley were located around a lake, and the biggest one was tenochtitlan located on floating islands on the lake. All the parts of the country outside the main valley of mexico were other ethnic groups that were vassals of the mexicans. The spanish invaded this valley and attacked all the towns here before besieging the main city
Both were gross barbarians with extremely eccentric and strong cultures, very prominent forms of art spread through different walks of life accentuated religion and death cult tendenciesThoughbeit death cult cultures are super fun and artistic peak and the real way human should live
>>18505437>to live in filth without literacy and sacrifice humans to your imaginary sky devils?never happened. Jewish revisionism
>>18505488so hecking true xister !!! trans racial iberian trans women are valid, us spicniards are proud empowered nordic white women !!!!!
>>18505413>enslaving its neighborsSo? Every empire did that. The Spanish themselves did that exact thing to the Americas.>practicing human sacrifice and cannibalismCannibalism is propaganda. Also, the whole human sacrifice thing is overblown as- It was done to prisoners of war (I.E. soldiers), not random civilians.- It would have eventually gone away on its own. No need for destroying Aztec civilization.- The Spanish killed more German Protestants in the 30 years war alone than the Aztecs sacrificed in their entire existence.>teach them to read and writeThey already had their own writing systems; the Maya had a complex hieroglyphic script; the Aztecs used pictographic codices; the Inca had quipu (knotted strings). The Spanish burnt and suppressed all this. Also, literacy in Spanish colonies was restricted to elites, and only in Spanish or Latin, not in any native languages.>convert them to ChristianityBeing Christian is not what makes a society “civilized”. Also, the conversion to Christianity was forced, not voluntary.>give them modern ideas of sanitationThey already had that. The Aztecs used aqueducts, public baths, and had waste removal systems. The Inca had advanced urban planning and plumbing in cities like Machu Picchu. Not only that, but they did it even better than the Europeans, Tenochtitlan alone was more sanitized than the entire European continent.
>>18505454Also, most of the tribes who sided with the Spanish weren't even opposed to the Aztec practice of human sacrifice since they also practiced it and literally followed the same religion as the Aztecs. They mainly sided with the Spanish for political reasons, not for religious or moral ones.There's a book about the conquest of the Aztecs written by one of the conquistadors who took part in it (The True History of the Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Díaz del Castillo) and he himself mentions that the other tribes weren't upset about the human sacrifice per se. It was that the Aztecs were taking too many people to sacrifice and other tribes disliked this since they wanted to sacrifice those people themselves.
>NOOOOOO IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY COMPLEX THE AZTECS WERE WHOLESOME CHUNGUS AND THE SPANISH WERE DA REEEEL BAD GOYSfuck off.The aztecs had literal walls of skull, were hated by just about everyone, had a far more brutal society than anything in Europe, and the Europeans who conquered them replaced those violent midget goblins with slender, attractive, White people.
>>18505417why?>>18505418this meme is a knock off and its not even correct.Iberians were already civilized in ways the Aztecs were not.>>18505421>take dat whiteeeyou are an orc.>>18505426uh no you fucking lunatic slavery does not mean they lose the moral highground.Human sacrifice is far worse.
>>18505587>were hated by just about everyone, had a far more brutal society than anything in EuropeWrong >>18505587
>>18505583> It would have eventually gone away on its own. Why/how?
>>18505454>>18505587>erm the other goblinos also did human sacrificeand they are just as savage and primitive and vile as the Mexica Aztecs.>erm akshually Whitey is the real barbariandude Whites a fucking angelic, they ended the human sacrifice, they introduced gorgeous looking people to the entire hemisphere, they lived out a heroic neo-Odyssey set in the Americas.Iberians were unequivocally better than the Aztecs.Literally it is just your inferiority complex that causes you to deny this obvious fact.
>>18505458>POV: You've just watched your entire family and most of your retainers being slaughtered in front of you and he just hits you with that dead eyed nafri stare as he mumbles "muh ciudades de oro maricon" over and over while smacking his lips
>>18505596>Why/how?Pagans in the Mediterranean and Middle East that once practiced animal sacrifice were already moving away from it before Christianity took over due to being too messy, and instead had begun to prefer purely bloodless ones like incense, libations, and prayers. Animal sacrifice itself had also previously replaced human sacrifice hundreds of years prior because it had become too costly to sacrifice people all the time (the Greeks practiced human sacrifice during the Bronze Age, but abandoned it by the archaic period and began to consider it barbaric), even the Phoenicians stopped sacrificing people to Baal by the Hellenistic period.No reason to think the Aztecs wouldn’t have gone down a similar path.
>>18505599The Aztecs were actually originally white, the Spanish were mostly Moorish and the only reason Mexico is brown today is because of Moorberians.
>>18505623I didn't know that there was Aztec wewuzers
>>18505623Iberians have nigger admixture due to the 800 years of moor and nigger rape, therefore they're straight up subhuman nigger monkeys according to the one drop rule
>>18505643>the one drop rulesomething that never existed.a majority of Iberians are 100% EUropean btw
>>18505410Actually the narrative against amerindian civilizations has distorted quite a lot since then, some iberian spics on the internet are likely to parrot the muh 6 gorillion sacrificerinos meme which is more in tune with the original, mostly religious justification for the invasion, nowadays however spicniards have adopted anglo """white""" racial trannyism, and since iberians are insecure brown retards because of them getting raped by moors, they're basically used as useful idiots by the currently dominant anglo narrative. People with an IQ above 70 are able to admire and give credit where its due to a race that achieved so much in total isolation from the rest of the world
>>1850566299% of white iberians were raped to extinction by moor BVLLSOnly basques are unmixed, but they're a tiny cucked minority without independenceAlso the iberian peninsula receives a ton of immigrants today (more than 35% of newborns in spain are of immigrant origin) and their fertility rate is south korean tier, iberians are gonna get bred by africans once again lol
>>18505623>The Aztecs were actually originally white, the Spanish were mostly Moorish and the only reason Mexico is brown today is because of Moorberians.
>>18505583>So? Every empire did that. The Spanish themselves did that exact thing to the Americas.False. It would be like saying that European serfs, peasants, and vassals of a feudal lord were slaves.>Cannibalism is propaganda.False. It is fully documented, both by historical chronicles and by rigorous archaeological (scientific) evidence.>It was done to prisoners of war (I.E. soldiers), not random civilians.False. They even sacrificed children (as archaeological evidence demonstrate).>- The Spanish killed more German Protestants in the 30 years war alone than the Aztecs sacrificed in their entire existence.Comparing the death toll from armed conflicts to human sacrifices... Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself?
>>18505583>They already had their own writing systems; the Maya had a complex hieroglyphic script; the Aztecs used pictographic codices; the Inca had quipu (knotted strings). The Spanish burnt and suppressed all this. Aztecs used pictographic codices; the Inca had quipu (knotted strings). The Spanish burnt and suppressed all this. Also, literacy in Spanish colonies was restricted to elites, and only in Spanish or Latin, not in any native languages.The satanic codices that described demonic and unnatural practices were burned, and burned thoroughly, as they should be. The few that did not contain immoral aberrations were saved. The languages and the writing, however, were preserved.The Franciscan and Dominican friars learned them for evangelization. In 1547, Friar Andrés de Olmos wrote the first grammar of Nahuatl, anticipating European languages like French or English by decades in having formal linguistic rules. The same thing happened in Peru. In 1551, King Charles V decreed that friars should preach in native languages. Quechua and Aymara were declared the "general languages" of the Viceroyalty of Peru. Official chairs of Quechua were created at the University of San Marcos in Lima, and fluency in Quechua was a mandatory requirement for ordination as a priest in the Andean region. The first book printed in all of South America (Lima, 1584) was precisely a bilingual catechism in Spanish and Quechua.>>18505583>Also, literacy in Spanish colonies was restricted to elites, and only in Spanish or Latin, not in any native languages.Spain never had "colonies". Retricted to elites? Exactly like in Europe. The commoners received basic education. The indigenous nobility attended exclusive schools where the children of local chiefs received an advanced education (in Latin, Spanish, and Nahuatl).
>>18505583>Being Christian is not what makes a society “civilized”. Also, the conversion to Christianity was forced, not voluntary.In some documents, such as the famous Requerimiento, the indigenous people were threatened with subjugation by force if they did not accept the preaching of the gospel. However, the idea that faith is free and a gift from God prevailed. Testimonies from that period do not support the claim that there were any forced conversions.
>>18505442>You're quite literally a negroid rapebaby, juanitoEarly, simple models using only West African proxies often mistakenly attributed North African ancestry to sub-Saharan origins. I do not think those distortions were simply the result of a mere faulty methodology, though...
They were a bunch of degenerate savages.They practiced human sacrifice in front of giant crowds, had people and animals fight to the death in giant arenas for their entertainment, kept millions of slaves, lived alongside animals in cramped hovels surrounded by reeking shit and piss, waged constant war, killed millions, and were despised by all of their neighbors. You can tell how much they were hated by how many of their neighbors and own people betrayed them to help overthrow their empire. That's why the world is better off now that the Roman empire has been destroyed. Pic unrelated
>unironically calling the Aztecs filthyI go into these kinds of discussions already expecting people to be completely ignorant of this subject but anytime someone makes a retarded comment like that it just instantly confirms they're so ignorant they're not even worth debating. The Aztecs were one of the most cleanliness obsessed civilizations in history. They had government funded street cleaners, public holidays focused on cleaning, they washed before and after every meal, and bathed CONSTANTLY.
>>18506020>The satanic codices that described demonic and unnatural practices were burned, and burned thoroughly, as they should be.Nothing you oppose is muh Satan. Meds now
>>18505623>we wuz Aztecs and shit
>>18506037If you have north african admixture, you have sub saharan admixture too since nafris are octoroons, not to mention spicniards straight up have nigger y dna haplogroups>The ‘Portugal-Andalucia’ cluster shows the greatest YRI contribution, and also shows some evidence of a second admixture date, with a more recent event involving only sub-Saharan-African-like and European-like source groups. This indicates a recent pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA, independent of the north African component.tl;dr: iberians are niggers
>>18505592because I'm south American brown and christkek spictards killed my people
>>18506091>octoroonsButthurt Chikaner detected.>If you have north african admixture, you have sub saharan admixture too since nafris are octoroons, not to mention spicniards straight up have nigger y dna haplogroups-You wish. There is absolute methodological precision at this level, and modern scientific studies very strictly differentiate between the two components in a mathematically rigorous way (ancient panels, multivariate models, block dating, etc.).
Great thread everyone, keep it up
>>18505442>negroid rapebabyNorth Africans are White Mediterraneans and the Black African admixture is miniscule.
>>18505418>burning thousands at the stake for witchcraftThis came much later and the grand total of Inquisition victims throughout Europe is only something like 3000 people.
>>18505583Had the shoe been on the other foot and the Aztecs discovered Europe, they'd have gone on an orgy of insane Lovecraftian human sacrifice and cannibalism.
>>18505410Aztec ''civilization''
>>18506093Your people died of smallpox and measles.
>>18506216>Modern scientific studies show iberians have north african AND sub saharan admixtureSays "Modern" and then posts a message from thirteen years ago (published by a nobody) with a shitty graphic from fifteen years ago (with the youruba proxy bias that led to the misattribution of North African genetic signals to sub-Saharan origins). Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself?>>185062863,000 condemned in 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition's history (57 of them, witches). Unlike civil courts and Protestant Europe, where collective hysteria led to mass burnings, the Spanish Holy Office considered most cases of witchcraft to be the result of ignorance, superstition, mental disorders, or imagination fueled by fear.
>>18506337>>18506338Based Aztecs.
>>18505410Aztecs were epic.Conquistadors were epic.The conquest was epic.Tercios were epic.Mexican history was epic.Why are /pol/faggots so obsessed with trying to politicize this board and make people feel bad about their own history? This is all epic to me and no amount of seething about muh brown people will ever make me hate history.>>18505589>>18505592>>18506289>>18506337>>18506338Sorry your shithole board was taken over by federal agents and teenagers but you really do have to go back.
>>18506374>18506374based
>>18505426They joined the side of the Tlaxcalans, who also performed human sacrifices...>>18505437They had writing.>>18505440Religious violence was still quite prevalent. I shouldn't really need to point out pogroms or the cathar crusade or the livonian crusades.>>18505589The Triple Alliance was a military empire, but were definitely less oppressive than most models of empire of the time. It was a very decentralized system. They also were definitely not hated by everyone. >>18506009>False. It would be like saying that European serfs, peasants, and vassals of a feudal lord were slaves.The spanish enforced a system of slavery in the new world.>It is fully documentedThere are very contradictory writings on cannibalism. The only thing that seems certain is that sometimes priests would cannibalize parts of a sacrifice. I don't really see how this is worse than the sacrifice itself though.
>>18506051>You can tell how much they were hated by how many of their neighbors and own people betrayed them to help overthrow their empire. This myth that they were universally hated is really tiresome. They were about as hated as any militaristic empire in history. Probably less, in reality, considering how decentralized their rule was
>>18505410>>18506093>>18506374>>18506356y'all still lost though lmfao. should've fought harder :)
>>18506403Who is "y'all"? Aztecs don't exist anymore.>unironically trying to politicize an event that happened over 500 years agoLeast mentally insane /pol/tranny.
>>18505440catholics deserve it.
>>18506282>North Africans are White Mediterraneanslol>the Black African admixture is miniscule.3-5% is more than enough for you to be considered a nigger by actual whites, white iberians were raped to extinction and replaced by negroid rapebabies
>>18505410why didn't they have these huge sacrifice pyramids in europe, africa and asia? how did these civilizations manage to skip this stage of development?
>>18506397yes that is the point i was making
>>18506551It's estimated that around 400,000 to 500,000 people died in the roman colliseum in gladiator fights or public executions, that's only in the colliseum at Rome, Romans built over 230 colliseums across the empire so the number of people killed is much, much higher
>>18507140>in gladiator fightsNope.The crowd would actually riot if a gladiator was killed. A gladiator won if they managed to make the opponent bleed, not kill them. Many gladiators were also functionally celebrities with sponsors and shit and many mosaics of them are essentially ads for olive oil.
>>18505410Nice fanart retard. It's as real as Hyperborea.
>>18507152>t. seething spic
>>18506551Blacks definitely would've built a few if they built with stone (more often).
>>18507151>umm ackshually They did kill each other, retarded redditor, 1 out of 5 times they would die>Modern estimates suggest that around 4 out of every 5 (80-85%) defeated gladiators would have lived – whether those who died were killed as a result of losing, or died from their wounds, is difficult to establishImagine thinking that a bunch of subhuman medjeet streetshitters who wiped their asses with a sponge on a stick ackshually had le wholesome mock fights instead of killing each other with machetes like retarded apes
>>18506340>Says "Modern" and then posts a message from thirteen years ago (published by a nobody) with a shitty graphic from fifteen years agoThe study in that pic is from 2020 you seething moor rapebaby, it uses modern methodologies and it undeniably proves you have nigger blood:https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/37/4/1041/5670533?login=falseAlso you're a massive bitch for reporting my post lol you will always be a subhuman moor rapebabyOnce again, you're a nigger Juan.
>>18507170HAHAHAHAHA. Time travel? A 2020 study in a 2013 post? Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself? In that garbage paper you've just pulled out of thin air (it's obvious you haven't even read it), just one more among the ton of crap published every month without filters, they use crappy data and graphs from outdated "work" (including the infamous 2011 Moorjani study for David Reich's Jewish lab).And I don't know who reported you; it wasn't me. It's funny how you waste your life and make a fool of yourself trying to discredit Spaniards. That obsession simply reflects your deep inferiority complex. Be proud of who you are and cut the crap, friend.
>>18507153Spics love the Amerindian civilizations, retard. Especially Peruvians who LARP as Incan o algo.
>>18507450Yeah it's like the Mexicans who LARP as Aztec o algo
>>18505418>burning thousands at the stake for witchcraftRetarded redditor detected
>>18506340Muslims invaded Iberia in the 8th century.The Spanish Inquisition didn't exist until the 15th century.
>>18505583>the conversion to Christianity was forced, not voluntaryWrong.
>>18507204>Time travel? A 2020 study in a 2013 post? low IQ schizophrenic retard, that nigger admixture of yours is acting up again juanito
>>18507450Peruvians are amerindian, they cannot be spics by definition
>>18507536spics are amerindians, by definition, some with various levels of white admixture
>>18507450Peruvians and Bolivians have the highest concentration of amerindian admixture.>race and genetics are suddenly trivial and meaningless when /pol/trannies decide they are
>>18507549spics = brown retarded hispanics, yes that includes moor rapebaby niggerberians like (You)
>>18507767sorry bro, mexicans aren't and never will be southern european
>>18507450The complete opposite, spics try their hardest to seem as white as possible and love larping as conquistadors or white specially in this website
>>18505454>>18505583>>18505587Spanish conducted human sacrifice too. They'd burn people alive for refusing to convert.
>>18507783no one wants to be a balding subhuman spajeet moor mongrel
>>18507828>Spanish conducted human sacrifice too. They'd burn people alive for refusing to convert.Behold! Here's someone who hasn't read a history book in his entire life. HAHAHAHA.
The Aztecs were automatically good by virtue of not worshipping the Abrahamic god. The real barbarians were the Spanish.
>>18507980>>18507883latinx tears are incredible
>>18507828(((mesoanon))), will you ever come up with anything new? It's been years. Have you even gotten a graduate degree, or anything?
>>18507997>you're jewish if you side with based aryanindios against moorish converso JewsInsane
>>18505410That's nonsense. Christincels still seethe about ancient Babylon, Egypt, Phoenicia etc.
>>18507751>have the highest concentration of amerindian admixtureYeah, in the same way that Argentinians and Uruguayans have the highest degrees of European admixture. Does that make their European larp any less dumb? I don't think so.
>>18507997>((()))retarded christkike spic
>>18508498Peruvians from Lima are around 80% amerindian, Peruvians from the Andes and Amazon areas are 98% amerindianPeruvians are more amerindian than iberians are white unironically
