Historically speaking, how is atheism even legalIt goes against everything our nation stands for, errodes cultures and causes dysfunction Shouldn't a Christian nation have laws to prevent this? Atheism has been known to destroy good values
>our nationwhich nation would that be?
>>18507203America The greatest nation on earth
>>18507200the united states is not a christian nation.
>>18507207>>18507200The constitution literally says the USA cannot endorse a specific religion or favor one religion above others nor can it discriminate against religions lol.
>>18507261The founders didn't recognize this was an endorsement of atheism as the state religion, but that has effectively become the case.
Historically speaking our nation was against gay retards too but we still allow OP to not only be gay but also retarded.
>>18507265Some of our most important founding fathers were essentially crypto-atheists. I wouldn't be surprised if they envisioned America as a state with Christian working class and a covertly atheist intelligentsia.
>>18507207Yeah, they're great alright. 35 BMI minimum.
>>18507265Secularism is the state commiting to being atheist. People can have religion but the state should be unbiased towards any particular religion.
>>18507200Romans thought christians were atheists who went against everything their nation stood for, erroded cultures and causes dysfunction.They had laws to prevent this and they failed in the end.When a religion appeals to the masses while being enforced by a small oligarchy, be it atheism or christianity, there is no way to stop its influence once it infects the society.
>Halt,citizen! We're sweeping for atheists. I need you to explain the trinity without saying something heretical right now or you're under arrest.
>>18507377>People can have religion but the state should be unbiased towards any particular religion.I reject that notion on the grounds that it leads inevitably to a denial of objective morality and a slow decline into rampant faggotry and lawlessness.
>>18507421I believe in one God,the Father almighty,maker of heaven and earth,of all things visible and invisible.I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,the Only Begotten Son of God,born of the Father before all ages.God from God, Light from Light,true God from true God,begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;through him all things were made.For us men and for our salvationhe came down from heaven,and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,and became man.For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,he suffered death and was buried,and rose again on the third dayin accordance with the Scriptures.He ascended into heavenand is seated at the right hand of the Father.He will come again in gloryto judge the living and the deadand his kingdom will have no end.I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,who proceeds from the Father and the Son,who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,who has spoken through the prophets.I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sinsand I look forward to the resurrection of the deadand the life of the world to come.Amen.GG, EZ
>>18507433>denial of objective moralityIs slavery bad?
>>18507421bong police would say this in urdu though
>>18507453I know exactly what you're going to say about slavery in the OT and instead of playing your little gotcha game that's been done a million times, I'd ask you what the book of Philemon says about it.
>>18507471Did God change his mind about slavery then?
>>18507475He changed humanity's mind about it.
>>18507499Why did he need to wait to do that? Why not just have it as an 11th commandment or something.
>>18507265The irony is that the U.S. has remained relatively more religious than other major industrialized countries. If you want to turn most of the population into cynical atheists who eventually throw the priests to their deaths from bell towers, create a state church, make participation mandatory, and appoint some huge fat guys in robes to run it but they mainly just sit around and eat a lot. Like it's just funny when there are trad guys who get into Russia, when Russians leave Russia and are kind of flabbergasted to encounter people who are actually religious. Like it wasn't that people became atheists in Russia because they were communists, they came to atheism much easier because of how shallow the religion was.
>>18507504>Why doesn't God do what I say He should?Why do you think? Because your perspective is flawed.
>>18507514God condones slavery in the old testament why does he change his mind or wait to not condone slavery later on?
>>18507519Does He condone it, or does He set regulation surrounding it?
>>18507520He condones it considering he told the Israelites on multiple occasions to enslave the women and children of conquered peoples.
>>18507522>He told His people to keep their conquered foes' women and children alive and ensure their continued survival filling a societal niche.>But it wasn't a happy niche where everyone held hands and sang songs so this is a bad thing, actually.That's not condoning slavery, it's the most egalitarian way to deal with a defeated foe. You'd rather they be left to starve after their husbands and fathers were all killed in war? That's what would've happened otherwise.
>>18507535I would have rather the Israelites not gone around raping and pillaging their neighbors unprovoked in the first place.
>>18507537Good thing that's just your headcanon and not what they did. I'll agree with the principle and I too would have rather the people of that land had not broken themselves against the people of God, but that was their decision.
The world would truly be a better place if the Jews were exterminated by Babylon instead of being enslaved. The Romans didn't go far enough.
>>18507546The entire Western world was enabled by Christian values.
>>18507551Not a good counter argument. The global dominion of European powers has been terrible for humanity.
>>18507558If it weren't for the unprecedented world peace, egalitarianism, medical advancement, cultural advancement, and general welfare, I'd still disagree with you on the basis of your obvious bitterness alone. Stay salty, I guess.
>>18507569>50+ million dead in the Americas>100+ million dead India>20+ million dead in China>15+ million dead in WW1>70+ million dead in WW2Nothing like egalitarian peace and prosperity built on a mountain of corpses. Talk about a real solid foundation, I don't foresee any problems arising from a quarter billion sacrificed on the altar of Europe.
>>18507579>explicitly athiest Russia, China, and Cambodia dwarfing these numbers with their own people. Jej. You lost marxtranny.
>>18507535>Your brain on Christian moral relativism
>>18507585The Khmer Rouge killed at most 3 million, the Soviets 60 million, and communist China 80 million. This is using maximalist numbers that likely don't reflect reality, and it still pales in comparison to the harvest reaped by European greed. If we wanted to talk about the ongoing deaths caused by capitalist exploitation the numbers grow even more lopsided.
it's funny how Americans think freemasons are christian
>>18507433>slow decline into rampant faggotry and lawlessness.Have nothing to do with religion. More like unwilling to enforce the law. Being soft on crime and giving criminals a slap on the wrist for heinous crime have embolden shitty people to act worse.Consider how soft the average zoomie is. If you are hard on crime, let people get away with beating up shoplifters, robbers and burglars. Gun down rioters like Antifa and BLM.Pretty sure crime will decrease massively. zoomies won't be so keen on committing crime when they know they have a high risk of dying or being injured.Only dumb libtards thinks that "violence will breed violence" and all this will do is to make criminals worse. Well seems to have worked for El Salvador.
>>18507635>More like unwilling to enforce the law. Being soft on crime and giving criminals a slap on the wrist for heinous crime have embolden shitty people to act worse.How could you justify being hard on crime or sentencing criminals when your worldview is that all beliefs, including justice, are entirely subjective and could be wrong?
>>18507207>>18507200Thomas Jefferson:>But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
>>18507471It doesn't say slavery is bad lol
>>18507265Atheism is not the state religion dude. If they did Israel would be hated instead of America being the reason they exist. The war against Catholics and other religious groups is simply a result of America being Protestant majority.
Christians of all denominations are going to be exterminated by artificially intelligent machines and drones. Same goes for jews and muslims. The false religions of abraham are marked for extermination. Atheists already won. The god of israel does not exist and will not save any of you. Coping isn't going to stop this.
>>18507228what nation it is?
