>Mommy please, do not! Do not blind me! Your son, your baby boy. In the very place you birthed and brought me into life?! Please please, I promise I'll be better! I will listen to only you, mommy. MOMMY! NOOOO! Without me you will have nothing! You need me! AAAAAGHHGHHGHGHGHGHH IT BURNS! Wait wait wait, he is not doing this right! AAAAHHHHHHH!! MERCYYYYYY!!>*dies soon afterwards, because instead of a precise surgical operation, they made sure to make it as painful and mutilating a procedure as possible, so he would die*>buried in the same monastery his mommy founded as the ultimate power moveIn retrospect, was Irene right in blinding her own son in the very room she birthed him or was it a morally and politically unwise choice?
>>18508454I have no idea who this is but she sounds evil as hell
Fucking diabolical
>>18508454Reekoids be doing shit like that and then have the gall to demonize Turks.
>>18508454This bitch really thought she could do that to her own son and Charlemagne would have no reservations about marrying her. He probably realized she’d do it to him too and he wisely declined. Being married to a crazy bitch is not worth being emperor of the world.
>>18508454You know, maybe being unimportant isn’t so bad. There’ll never be a Wikipedia article on me but on the other hand I don’t have to worry about my mother killing me
>>18508844I posit that most people killed by their mother don't have a wikipedia article.Then again, most of them never left childhood, or the womb for that matter if we're counting abortion.
>>18508454Greekoids deserved 1204.
medjeet moment
>>18508454I guess it was politically wise since she had a lot of power but that just seems unnecessarily cruel desuWhy did she have to kill him too? She already had power because he was incapacitated so making sure he dies painfully seems like overkillWhat was the relationship between Irene and her son before this? Did they hate each other?
>>18510082Given this behavior her son was always a stepping stone for sure. Although she's extreme this sentiment was likely not uncommon amongst higher echelons, political marriages aren't bound by love but practicality, so it's unsurprising if they find the person they reproduced with undesirable but neccessary they would come to be apathetic to their own.
>>18508832Couldn't Charlemagne have married Irene and then had her killed as well? Something like Henry VIII did to all his wives?
>>18508454>morally and politically unwise choice?Considering her reign was an absolute failure, yea, it was an unwise choice. She had absolutely no legitimacy, had consistent military failures during her reign and was despised by all both in Byzantium and outside, although funnily enough not by the Arabs as she was far more peaceable with them then her son had been.
>>18508454He was just a clump of cells
>>18510115The wives Henry was able to have executed were politically weaker than him, and even then they were controversial. When he wanted to divorce a wife with political capital, Anne of Cleves, he had to settle for a traditional divorce with a generous settlement, and disparage her reputation by calling her ugly.
>>18510326Interesting, I didn't know that. But from what I know Charlemagne was so powerful that he was able to have a literal harem and multiple wives because the Pope needed him as a champion of Catholicism. Was there anyone who had enough political capital to challenge Charlemagne in that way?
