If God is real why do babies die from cancer
>>18509327Its the price of living in the material world.
>>18509327I think the correct quality will be "omnibenevolent", think about it for a second and what implies to you and what your examples may hint at your behaviour.
>«iF GoD ReaL, WHY BaD THiNG HaPPeN?»THE UNIVERSE IS STOCHASTIC; THERE IS ACCIDENCE IN THE COSMOS; ACCIDENTS OCCUR; GOD DOES NOT MICROMANAGE THE OPERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE, NOR THE EVENTS IN IT.
>>18509327It’s all part of the masterplan o algo
>>18509327those babies would grow up to become communists
This is still why.
>>18509366You are an Epicurean, Pablo. Chance does not exist. All things whatsoever happen in time are superintended by the sovereign providence of God according to His wise counsel.
>>18509404>You are an Epicurean, Pablo.?>Chance does not exist.ACCIDENCE DOES NOT EXIST, BECAUSE IT IS NOT AN ENTITY WITH SAPIENCE, NOR WITH AGENCY; EXISTENCE IS EXCLUSIVE TO ENTITIES WITH AGENCY, AND WITH SAPIENCE.>All things whatsoever happen in time are superintended by the sovereign providence of God according to His wise counsel.YES, SUPERINTENDED, NOT MICROMANAGED.
Because death and suffering are not the great evils you think they are. Separation from God is.
>>18509414Okay then you're fine with someone tearing out your lungs with a knife?
>>18509327Humans are suffering in this world to wake them up and show them their need of Jesus Christ saving them from their sins, because God doesn't want them in Hell, which is worse than whatever happens on earth. Will you reject what God wants for you or will you accept the gift of salvation. You see the effect of sin by all these bad things happening, like babies suffering, and now that you see it, what do you choose? If nothing bad happened you wouldn't understand just how serious this situation is, and how angry God is with this evil wicked world. Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. He died on the cross as a sinless sacrifice for all the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sins. He was buried, then rose again from the dead. One day you will stand before Him, and He will judge you. You can either repent to God by receiving Him and be saved, or reject Him and go to hell for your sins.Rom. 3:23-25: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”1 John 5:7: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”Salvation is by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9, given by God, Romans 10:8 & 17) only in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:8-12) dying in your place (1 Cor. 15:3-4) as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom. 5:1-10). His blood atonement made for you is finished, so if you have received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in your heart, you're forgiven of all your sins and are saved, once for all; finally and forever! (Rom. 8:38-39, Romans 4:5)www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntchttps://truthischrist.com/seven/
>>18509503>HumansSo animal suffering is pointless? Or do you just maintain they don't suffer?
>>18509494For me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. So, yeah, if it had to happen. Not my first choice, but I'm fine with it.
>>18509519Most transparent lie I've seen in a while. Why can't you just be honest?
>>18509410>EXISTENCE IS EXCLUSIVE TO ENTITIES WITH AGENCY, AND WITH SAPIENCE.Do rocks exist, señor?
>>18509523>Literally countless examples of Christians living this sentiment out under death threats throughout historySorry about your historical illiteracy, anon. Get well soon.
>>18509327Sin entering the world is like entropy entering the world. A perfect world would never have death. A world cursed by sin does.
>>18509517Animals suffer too, they suffer because when mankind was "sold under sin" (Rom. 7:14), animals were under the authority of man. It's not just animals and humans, when Adam sinned the whole earth including the ground and what grows on it was cursed by God.Just because God allows suffering to happen in order to show to people the result of sin, why does that make God unjust? Is suffering some sort of impossible obstacle that you cannot pay back no matter what? If I offered to give you a gold bar for pricking your finger, you would accept despite the fact that it causes you suffering.In the same way, since God is omnipotent, He can easily make any suffering, trauma etc. go away easily and replace it with something else. The present makes sense if you have future as a context. The important thing to remember about God is His holiness. The love of God is rooted in God's holiness. All of God's love, in this age, is vested in the righteous life and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Apart from Christ, God loves no man (John 3:16; Rom. 5:8); apart from Christ, the sinner abides in God's wrath (John 3:36: “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”).We sin because we are "in Adam," (Rom. 5:19); we die because we are "in Adam" (1 Cor. 15:22; Rom. 5:17). But when a man receives Christ as his Saviour, he is no longer "in Adam"; he is then "in Christ" (1 Cor. 12:13, 27; Eph. 5:30).Moreover, Christ is in you (Col. 1:27) in the person of the Holy Ghost (Rom. 8:9-16). When God looks at a saved man, He does not see a sinner in Adam's image, but His own Son who is "the image of God" Himself (2 Cor. 4:4; Heb. 1:3). The old Adamic nature in the flesh divided from the new man in Christ Jesus (Col. 2:11-13, 3:10). And someday God will change that sinful body and adopt it into His family too (Phil. 3:21; 1 Cor. 15:50- 54; Rom. 8:23-29).
>>18509327>If God is real why do babies die from cancerthe jew devil that jews worship causes all evil, and so through the destruction of all jews all evil will cease to exist
God is punishing us for not containing and segregating the homosexuals
>>18509327The sensible answer is God is not all good.
>>18510246I don't think He is, but hey, it's worth a try.
>>18509545>if a tree falls in the woods, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?The rocks only exist if they are observed. Observation is required to prove existance.
>>18510247God, by definition, is good. Bad agents are not defined as "God".
>>18509327most of the time it's due to genetic problems which are a result of mutations in the first place, and then incest which increases the odds of the infant inheriting two copies of a dangerous gene that can cause cancer. some will say that childhood cancer, in particular, is not genetic, but also apparently all we are is expression of genes so w/e.It's not a coincidence that the places on earth with the highest rates of child cancer, birth defects, and child mortality generally all practice incestuous marriages, as well as being highly polluted and disease-ridden.a place which follows God's morality of being cleanly, not spreading disease, and abstaining from incest will see a general decline in child mortality.
>>18510341I don't see "le daddy Jew + talking snakes" under the definition of "good" in any dictionary.
>>18510333>IdealismPhilosophical schizophrenic
>>18510374Its just semantics. It depends on how you define "exist". Most people dont worry about this, because its arbitrary. I can understand both points of view.
>>18510369God is defined as a judgmental figure that forms heaven and earth through division, separation, cutting, pruning, etc. There is something there, and his "formations" are a choice is being made. That choice is defined as good in genesis 1. God saw the light, and said it is good. In Job, which was actually written before genesis, Satan is defined as a privation of the good messages that are being formed by God.It's all there in the narrative.
>>18510374Jesus and Israel have two natures.God and Man.The geometer and the carpenter.
>>18509327>If God is real why do babies die from cancerFree radicals.
>>18509545Look up what "to exist" means, retard.
>>18510689>God saw the light, and said it is good.Biblically false.
>>18510718>1. have objective reality or beingGlad we could establish that stop eating crayons
>>18510683>Its just semantics.Stop repeating that phrase, you are giving it a bad rep>>18510696??????????
>>18509327From god's perspective, why would it matter whether a person dies of cancer when they're young or when they're old?Assuming something like the Christian concept of god, he knows that the brief life of the flesh is a blink of an eye compared to the eternal life of the soul, and for those who are not sinners, that eternal afterlife is far better than the life we have here on Earth. If anything, dying as a baby is the best thing that could happen to you, since you'd be getting out of the mortal world faster, without the risk of a lifetime of temptations that could lead you to damnation.
>>18510784God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
According to Platinga it's unironically because of fallen angels and SatanBut then that raises the question - why doesn't God just kill them
>>18510916So then by that logic, why does any life matter at all? What is 1 year to 80 years, to eternity. God is basically the ultimate nihilist then “oh who cares if babies die your lives are short anyways they don’t matter”
>>18511012I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit
>>18511012>fallen angels and SatanPrivations
>>18510788Proof of objective reality requires measurement.Measurements require observations.
>>18510969Exactly. Now re-read your previous post and notice how wrong you were.
>>18511102Proof of an object may satisfy an observer’s epistemic duties, but its ontological being is wholly independent of proof.
>>18511032Well, yeah. That's kinda the whole idea of the Book of Job. None of this matters, and just have faith until you die.
>>18509327God is an ontological necessity. He’s the source of all being. So the question isn’t “if God exists explain babies having cancer”, it’s “why does God permit some babies to die of cancer”The answer is I don’t know. I’m not God. The official church teaching is that it’s a consequence of every subsequent human since Adam being born out of sync with God from original sin, and thus liable to disease and death. And that God permits these things when it aligns with a greater good.
>>18511206>life and suffering don’t matter because we’re all going to die anyways And Christians say atheists are nihilists
>>18511243Christians often say earthly conditions don’t matter when compared to eternity. Material things don’t matter like the way we think they do. Our behaviour and disposition definitely matters a great deal. And ultimately there is inherent meaning in the world (God).Many atheistic nihilists deny meaning whatsoever in life. It is illusionary, and ultimately all will be devoured by a vast and uncaring universe. All will end in death, silence and the triumph of entropy.
>>18509327Only evil babies
>>18511290Except that presupposes an afterlife actually exists. Practically speaking your outlook on life, insofar as it influences your behavior is functionally no different from saying “none of it matters we’re going to die anyways”
>>18511205Not only does God say that it is good, he says that it is very good.
>>18511156Not only does God say that it is good, he says that it is very good.
>>18511205Proof offers validity, but observation and ontological being are required for the soundness of an argument to exist.
>>18509327God has a sense of humor.
