>>18509801
>spawned some of the most brutish imperial military officers despite also being victims
non-irish people born in ireland =/= irish

basically nothing since ir*sh just make up all their history

Like to get drunk.
Ireleand before alcohol anyone ?

>>18509801
They exaggerate the extent of 'civilisation' during the Dark Ages

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>>18509801
Educate yourself, buddy, and know that we Bostonians are the envy of the world for a gosh darn reason.

>steal your neighbor's cows
>stop your neighbor from stealing your cows
>rinse and repeat
vgh...erin go bragh...

>>18510056
its really funny to me how MIT, one of the great seats of learning is in...Boston

>>18510105
>Founded by a Protestant of English, Scottish and Irish descent
Once again, the best of the 'Irish' is shown to be ANGLO-Irish

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>yet ANOTHER ireland derangement thread on /his/

What do you want to know, OP? Happy to point you to sources of information on any period or topic.

a) le monks saved le civilization during le dark ages
Not true, nor does the book from which this meme originates even claim this to be true. It's a melodramatic title of a book written by an American from New York who can best be described as a pop-history author with extra steps.
b) buckbroken by the anglos
434 years trying to conquer the island, a century or so of ruling it laughably incompetently, then another century trying and failing to kill Irish nationalism, then the 20th Century of endless concessions.
c) spawned some of the most brutish imperial military officers despite also being victims
Irish teenagers who aren't even old enough to drink yet can understand the Anglo-Irish element of Irish history and the development of historiography on the topic. Can't you?
d) potatoes
Yep. and they're pure nice too
e) rebels who smeared poo poo on the walls and bombed cars
Provisional IRA was named by the British Army as extremely effective, and the hunger strike worked; all of their demands were granted, the British Government was humiliated, and the IRA saw a huge surge in support. But I suppose dismissing it like this might convince you that it was somehow an epic British victory.

>>18509801
Lots of stuff
For instance, before the English invaded, they had a nose tax, and instead of money their primary unit of currency they used to buy things were female slaves (kumal/cumall/cumhall)

>>18509801
I hope you die of cancer before the end of the year. >>18509877
Kill yourself!
>>18509887
Cringe as fuck

>>18510676
>primary unit of currency they used to buy things were female slaves (kumal/cumall/cumhall)
Not actually true, but a common misconception. The point where this sort of thing was likely most prevalent was prior to written history in Ireland.

While slavery (realistically it's more akin to serfs divided along gender lines but that's another topic) was certainly prevalent, the role of the "cumal" in trade arrangements wasn't an actual person, but instead a unit of value that had its roots in the older tradition. Irish law was incredibly complex and developed and by as early as the 7th and 8th Century it was well equipped to deal with issues of "monetary" compensation even if no money was actually involved.

While slaves and slavery *absolutely* existed in Ireland, the role of slaves as a major economic unit is something that the Vikings brought along. While some weirdos claim that Gaelic Ireland was some progressive paradise (they are retards) in truth it was more like
>law defines who is and isn't capable of practising or interpreting law; there are two groups-those who can, and those who can't
>the group of those considered incapable includes slaves, children, the insane, and women
So while the "cumal" in this case may have once referred to specifically a female serf who'd work household jobs, by the time anyone was actually writing things down it was mostly just a unit of value.

>>18510703
Good post, thanks anon.
Would you have any reading suggestions for about the organisation/social stratification of Gaelic Ireland? From what I have read it seems pretty interesting, especially things like the honour price, but I haven't been able to find much on it.

>>18510770
Chapter 5 of "Early Medieval Ireland" by Matthew Stout would probably be perfect for what you want anon. It documents the clashing of ecclesiastical and secular law in Ireland and contains numerous brass tacks bits about how Irish society was structured (both in terms of social standing/economy.)

>>18510779
Thanks

>>18510663
>Irish teenagers who aren't even old enough to drink yet can understand the Anglo-Irish element of Irish history and the development of historiography on the topic. Can't you?
No they don't
>oscar wilde and jonathan swift and bram stoker were...le irish as it comes
>Michael O'Dwyer, landlords during the famine and irishmen who massacred aboriginals in australia are... le not true irish, le british collaborators
basically the irish can pick and choose which people are irish and not irish based on if they were good or bad
its disingenuous behaviour

>>18510818
>>oscar wilde and jonathan swift and bram stoker were...le irish as it comes

The vast majority of Irish people don't give a single fuck about literature and never would have read anything from those Anglo Irish authors or nay author and might not even have heard of them or barely know who they are or anything about them. I'd say a good 98% of the population of Ireland or any other country don't give a fuck about literature or even read. I don't know why you'd bring those names up even as they have little if any significance to the vast majority of people. Theres barely any if any at all Anglo Irish figures who'd be known to the common man and seen as national heros or treasures or whatever because most of what they done doesn't matter or interest the average person.

>>18510663
England beat Ireland centuries ago, the Irish just don't know it

>>18510818
>No they don't
Yeah, they do. Historiography comes up in the junior cycle, and in the run-up to the leaving cert they focus a great deal on the early modern period; this often includes pointing out that there's a stark difference between the likes of an exploitative absentee Anglo-Irish landowner and someone like Charles Parnell.
>basically the irish can pick and choose which people are irish and not irish based on if they were good or bad
No I think you just do this and cry on 4chan about it, anon. Most of the people who are excluded from "being Irish" are those who were born into noble families with estates in Ireland but who always considered themselves British, not Irish. There are also men like Castlereagh who are absolutely reviled despite being very well established as Irish.

But of course, you aren't actually here to talk history and are instead simply continuing your years long obsession with my fellow bog dwellers because you are creepy weirdo.
>>18510836
While I agree with your point that the average punter knows nothing of history and doesn't give a fuck about culture, the idea that there are "barely any" Anglo-Irish figures known and revered in Ireland is daft.

There are literally 2 huge statues of Anglo-Irish leaders on Dublin's main thoroughfare.

>>18510840
The moment England "beat" Ireland was the end of the Nine Years War aka Tyrone's Rebellion, in 1603. From that moment onwards the old Gaelic order in Ireland came to an end and never returned. Extremely interesting period, though.

>>18510836
>The vast majority of Irish people don't give a single fuck about literature and never would have read anything from those Anglo Irish authors or nay author and might not even have heard of them or barely know who they are or anything about them
Theres like a bram stoker parade in dublin every year what are you on about?
and you constantly see these figures on irish media or irish people saying the irish are artistically gifted and putting up pictures of oscar wilde and jonathan swift
>>18510844
>exploitative absentee Anglo-Irish landowner
>being Irish" are those who were born into noble families with estates in Ireland but who always considered themselves British, not Irish
Youre doing it again
Many of the "evil british landowners" at the time of the famine lived in ireland and considered themselves irish. a good many would have been of irish descent.
and when poor irish catholics go to australia and start massacring abos you suddenly pretend they were all british or whatever.
>But of course, you aren't actually here to talk history and are instead simply continuing your years long obsession with my fellow bog dwellers because you are creepy weirdo.
Some guy made a 1 sentence long shitpost about ireland and on the hottest day of the year when everybody else is outside you decided to go on a rant about how ineffective loyalist paramilitaries were.
brits live in your head rent free.

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>le irish dont care about anglo irish writers
there are countless examples of ireland celebrating anglo irish writers in stamps, effigies, monuments, etc. picrel is one of them
what do you get out of brazenly lying?

>>18510860
>Youre doing it again
No anon, you just aren't reading my post. See the bit where it says "didn't consider themselves Irish"? Those guys get excluded. Others don't.
>when poor irish catholics go to australia and start massacring abos
Once again I am absolutely certain you just saw some retard say this on facebook and spiralled into a rage again.
>brits live in your head rent free.
Anon, this is a history board. I have no reason to be here if not to talk about history.

You trawl these threads (and have been doing so for years) to make completely ineffectual wandering rants about Ireland. I can only assume some Dub fucked your oneitis or something because the level of obsession and rage you have about a small county on the edge of Europe is not normal.

>>18510867
>examples of ireland

The government not the people. The vast majority of Irish people are Catholic Gaels but there's Protestants of British stock who are Irish people too and the state doesn't ignore them and celebrates their contributions too but the average Irish person a Catholic Gaels wouldn't really know about or care about those figures. The government uses those writers to promote tourism and stuff too.

There's 50 houses in my estate all working class Irish people and if I went around the doors asking about Jonathan Swift or bram stoker or whatever I'd say most people wouldn't know anything about them. I know who they are but I've never read a book of literature in my life just like most other working class people I know. I'd go so far as to say it's a bit gay and effeminate to be into literature. People who'd read shite like bram stokes dracula in 2026 must be a bit autistic or pretentious.

>>18510875
>No anon, you just aren't reading my post. See the bit where it says "didn't consider themselves Irish"? Those guys get excluded. Others don't.
Then Why is Bram Stoker included? He was a unionist monarchist.
>Once again I am absolutely certain you just saw some retard say this on facebook and spiralled into a rage again.
Paddies were brutal to the abos.
>Anon, this is a history board. I have no reason to be here if not to talk about history.
You responded to a shitpost thread on a day when most people were out and about in the sun and instead chose to seethe about loyalists.
pathetic.
>You trawl these threads (and have been doing so for years) to make completely ineffectual wandering rants about Ireland. I can only assume some Dub fucked your oneitis or something because the level of obsession and rage you have about a small county on the edge of Europe is not normal.
Instead of having an actual argument you resort to ad hominem because you don't know any actual history.
And i don't think anyone suffering from the irish curse could brag about shagging someones missus

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Anyway some book recommendations for every topic in OP:

>le monks saved le civilization during le dark ages
Early Christian Ireland by Matthew Stout, particularly Chapters 3 and 6.
>buckbroken by the anglos
A centuries long topic. Start with Richard Roche's Norman Invasion of Ireland (or alternatively GH Orpen's work) and then grab James O'Neill's "The Nine Years War: 1593-1603" to see the Tudor conquest and the establishment of the Kingdom of Ireland worked. Then the old faithful "Making of Modern Ireland" by Buckett brings you up to the present, but there are many more books about specific topics such as the Patriot Movement, United Irishmen, Home Rule, Land Wars, War of Independence, etc.
>spawned some of the most brutish imperial military officers despite also being victims
There isn't really a book on this because it's a pointed shitpost. I would recommend the extremely accessible Tim Fanning book about the Irish military and political leaders in Latin America, if the idea of Irish people in colonial empires takes your fancy.
>potatoes
Uh, Atlas of the Irish Potato Famine I guess. Blackpilling read if you are hoping for an anglophilic opinion of the famine to remain intact.
>rebels who smeared poo poo on the walls and bombed cars
For this you can find primary sources on the Troubles-era Irish Republicans (but also on Irish rebels from centuries prior) at the Irish Republican Digital Archive; just google it, its free. For something more specific, jump into Peter Taylor's book "The Provos and Sinn Féin."

Remember that there are a 3 or 4 seething retards who spam these threads because they are mindbroken by paddies. If someone on /his/ can't back their views on history with sources, their views are worthless.

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>>18510900
>Then Why is Bram Stoker included? He was a unionist monarchist.
Unionists considered themselves Irish too you utter brainlet. He took a very active and consistent interest in Irish politics and supported Home Rule on a similar basis to that of the likes of Henry Grattan.
>Paddies were brutal to the abos.
Yes, and the Irish President openly acknowledged this like a decade ago. But of course I doubt you actually care about the event beyond its ability to get you updoots for BTFOing the micks online.
>seethe about loyalists.
To seethe is to be angry, anon. I take great pleasure in posting on this site. Given that you were also in the thread responding to me, it's funny as fuck that you think this is some sort of home run.
>Instead of having an actual argument
I am doing you a kindness by responding to each of your points with my arguments.

But how am I supposed to discuss anything with someone so utterly beyond saving that he sees things on social media and gets sent into a screaming shitfit which he then cries about on 4chan? You have never once challenged anything I said, just whinged and then scuttled off to find some other faggotry for you to complain about.

I come to /his/ to talk history, you come here to shadowbox with anonymous posters. Sit down you utter spanner

>>18510914
So why is O'Dwyer considered not an irishman then?
Does killing pajeets make you not irish? Over a third of all the British army involved in subduing the sepoy mutiny were Irish Catholics, are they suddenly not irish now?
>Yes, and the Irish President openly acknowledged this like a decade ago. But of course I doubt you actually care about the event beyond its ability to get you updoots for BTFOing the micks online.
Because you can't LARP as Mopes
>I come to /his/ to talk history, you come here to shadowbox with anonymous posters. Sit down you utter spanner
You come here to spam your deranged obsession with loyalists.

>>18510933
>So why is O'Dwyer considered not an irishman then?
Literally who says he isn't? What book or historical journal or government statement has suggested to you that he isn't seen as Irish?

He doesn't get much attention on account of the fact that he left Ireland in his youth and spent much of the rest of his life overseas, and his support for constitutional Irish Nationalism is well recorded.
>Because you can't LARP as Mopes
what?
>You come here to spam your deranged obsession with loyalists.
In a thread specifically talking about the Troubles i made 2 greentext posts about them, over a week ago.

You are still upset by it. I think you need to spend less time online anon, I do not think you have the emotional capacity to process the things you see on the internet in a healthy way.

>>18510949
>Literally who says he isn't? What book or historical journal or government statement has suggested to you that he isn't seen as Irish?
Irish people will say that he was a traitor to ireland or not a real irishman
>what?
Irish people larp as the Most Oppressed People Ever and put themselves alongside black slaves, jews, gypsies, when in reality compared to most other colonial projects the irish were treated pretty damn well and were never considered "nonwhite" and were never slaves.
>In a thread specifically talking about the Troubles i made 2 greentext posts about them, over a week ago.
It was a shitpost thread that any normal person would have ignored and you seethed.
>You are still upset by it. I think you need to spend less time online anon, I do not think you have the emotional capacity to process the things you see on the internet in a healthy way.
Stop projecting. I don't spam paragraphs when i see a shitpost thread about anglos or britain, i just scroll past it and don't care. loyalists live in your head rent free pal

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>>18510965
>Irish people will say that he was a traitor to ireland or not a real irishman
Who? Where? Why do you take the views of random retards so seriously?
>Irish people larp as the Most Oppressed People Ever
Stop reading the Daily Mail anon, the main trend of Irish historiography in the 20th Century is that it was revealed to be *too anglophilic* so as to avoid upsetting deeply embedded conservative elements of Ireland. Once again, pretty sure you're getting triggered by shit you see retards post online.
>It was a shitpost thread that any normal person would have ignored and you seethed.
I don't think you know what seethe means, anon. Are two shitposting greentexts laughing at UVF retards not perfectly fitting for a shitpost thread about the troubles?
>Stop projecting.
I don't think you know what this means either.

Here you are, an entire week later, absolute shitting yourself with anger about things people you don't know say on the internet. I sincerely hope you aren't this hopelessly weird irl, anon, because it's bananas to me to post on this site and see that months or even years later you are still here crying. No understanding of Irish history, no sources, no suggestions that any of your views are informed, you just see shit on facebook or twitter and get sent into a burning rage. Sad stuff.

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>>18510984
Your kind literally cries about being le slaves when in reality more English people were indentured servants (not slaves) than the irish ever were.
Loyalists live in your head rent free. you have more pictures of loyalists saved onto your pc than johnny adair does. like every irishman you are OBSESSED with the british. it's pathetic.

>>18510991
>he admits that random retards on twitter can send him into a spiralling rage
jesus lad, get help.

>>18510965
>Irish people larp as the Most Oppressed People Ever and put themselves alongside black slaves, jews, gypsies,

You are absolutely insane. Wtf would anyone in the Republic of Ireland know about oppression? None of us experienced any oppression not our parents nor grandparents so why the fuck would we feel anything for the other peoples you mention? I am a working class Irish man and pretty much everyone I know is racist as fuck and would put no value on the lives of any of those you mentioned. People here are so clannish and parochial could not give one single fuck about any of the shite you mentioned.

Whatever gay faggot you interact with on reddit does not = the Irish people. You seem to seize upon any daft shit you see from some retarded middle class Irish person on reddit or whatever and then act this what all Irish people think and say. You are completely fucked in the head going by the shit you post on this threads every fucking week. You haven't clue and are one whiny fucking spastic.

>>18511002
>those ulster loyalists are so horrible for claiming irish figures like cu cullain as their own
>dude why are you obessed with the entirety of irish nat twitter claiming ulster scots as gaylick, dude get help
the hypocriscy is palpable

>>18510991
Loyalists are subhuman porridge niggers. You should go and visit them sometime and see for yourself. They're probably the most cultureless people in the while of Europe unless you count worshipping demonic kikes as a culture.

>>18511008
Yes anon, finding it odd that an active Paramilitary Group carrying out a campaign of indiscriminate killing of Irish people adopting probably one of the most famous Irish mythological figures (heavily associated with Irish nationalism) as their mascot is a bit different to you seeing some fag on twitter and boiling with rage KEKKED

away on before you embarrass yourself further

>>18511003
You as a nation are absolutely insane for changing the spelling for the good old fashioned word Crack into "craic" and telling american tourists it's a part of irish culture.
And many irish seem to agree with me
>The craic spelling has attracted criticism when used in English. Irish English language specialist Diarmaid Ó Muirithe wrote in his Irish Times column "The Words We Use" that "the constant Gaelicisation of the good old English-Scottish dialect word crack as craic sets my teeth on edge".[36] Writing for the Irish Independent, Irish journalist Kevin Myers criticised the craic spelling as "pseudo-Gaelic" and a "bogus neologism".[37] Other linguists have referred to the craic form as "fake Irish

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>>18510991
scotch-irish are the product of scotch husbands

>>18511011
i've met loyalists at the orange walk in southport they're good lads
>>18511015
loyalists haven't killed any catholics in like twenty years what are you still seething about

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>>18510991
irish wives

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>>18510991
and not a single drop of eirecuck genetics

>>18511008
>claiming ulster scots as gaylick,

And then you have the other weirdos claiming them as Anglo Saxon when there no such thing as an Anglo Saxon and 'Ulster Scots' (recently made up term) are just a bunch if mongrels porridge monkeys and actually do have a lot of Gaelic blood in them too but they're really just a bunch of demented Calvinist freaks and the pope and the Irish people live rent free in their heads 24/7. The only significant "cultural" event they have each year is the 12th July and even all that involves seething all day over the Pope and the Irish people. It's so pathetic and they celebrate a battle that porridge monkeys only played a minor part in. It was Dutch, Danish etc soldiers of William of orange who won that bottle not the inbred porridge monkeys in Ulster.

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>>18511016
>You as a nation are absolutely insane for changing the spelling for the good old fashioned word Crack into "craic

Cry more about it

>>18511025
I can't really fathom what you're on about regarding Cú Chulainn unless its referring to the likes of the RHC adopting him as an image. Or did you just see something on twitter that upset you again?
>loyalists haven't killed any catholics in like twenty years what are you still seething about
24 years, actually. They were putting Catholics out of their homes a few months ago mind you. Did you think Loyalist Paramilitaries went away like the PIRA did?

>>18511040
>le ulster scots are porridge monkeys
>but the presbyterian ulster scots who formed the united irishmen are...le irish as it comes
And the Ulster scots were instrumental in fighting the Williamite war. Billy would have lost if it wasn't for the Enniskilliner Guirellas or the Brave men at the walls of Londonderry

>>18511016
nobody in England says "whats the craic", people in Ireland do. Thus, it gets more associated with Ireland.

I know you saw this shit on twitter, you obsessed freak. Every week you find some other new tiny random thing on facebook or something to cry about. Insane stuff

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>>18511043
go back to irish nat twitter

>>18511051
>irishtaigslol6.jpg
Nobody normal has to organise their screenshots of social media to be used to cry on 4chan, anon. You keep outing yourself as an obsessed weirdo, why?

>>18511049
The word Crack is used daily in the North of England and Scotland you retard. I can go to any working class pub from halifax to edinburgh and hear the word Crack being used in conversation.
Theres even a newspaper in cumbria called the Cumbrian Crack
Stop stealing our culture, taig

>>18511054
Don't you have hundreds of photos of loyalists paramilities despite claiming to hate them?
Bit weird that

>>18511025
Southport? Isn't that where the nigger slayed those little girls at a dance class? Bet you do more seething about the comments of random Irish people on X than you ever did about some nigger slaying those little girls and you'd kiss the foot of the kikes who opened the doors to them in the first place.

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>>18511061
I know people who were arrested for battering the police in southport. this isn't the own you think it is.
>Bet you do more seething about the comments of random Irish people on X than you ever did about some nigger slaying those little girls and you'd kiss the foot of the kikes who opened the doors to them in the first place.
Very ironic seeing as how loyalists are racists who last year ethnically cleansed their estates from nonwhites and on the other hand republicans are fine with taking the knee

>>18511059
>Don't you have hundreds of photos of loyalists paramilities despite claiming to hate them?
I like history, anon. I don't just study history of groups or people or places that I like, that'd be lame as fuck. I know a lot about those groups because I have studied them a lot, because I study history a lot. I have many posts of many paramilitaries which I mostly use to make threads about them, or for photodumps from the era.
Here are some examples:
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13385673/#q13385673

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13312968/#q13312968
IF they're labelled, its usually something like
>Belfast_1970_uvf.jpg
You on the other hand trawl social media to find things to be annoyed about, then take screenshots and come running to 4chan to post them. So no, anon, we aren't the same; I like history (even the bits that don't line up with the things I like irl). You search the internet for things to put in your mick seethe folder.

>>18511069
There's plenty of non irish history i'm interested in and i post about. Do you want me to use a tripcode like a faggot to see all the posts i make on this board?
these threads are just shitposting. stop getting riled up over it.

>>18511051
Go back to British civic Nat Twitter and call Irish people Nazis and lick the feet or kikes like you pathetic civ nat brit faggots do.

>>18511072
>it's just shitposting, stop getting riled up!
Anon, you have just spent the entire thread getting very angry at me about things you have found and screenshotted on social media.

It isn't any of us that needs to stop getting riled up about things they find online kekked

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>>18511073
The loyalists you hate so much ethnically cleansed ballymena of nons last year while your based nationalist leaders kneel to wogs
>>18511074
i'm shitposting while watching tv in the background, you seethe over loyalists constantly.
we know you're jealous of loyalists because in the end ulster scots basically gave irish people republicanism

>>18511080
>I'm shitposting while watching tv in the background
>I'm not obsessed! I'm not obsessed!
dead on lad. see you in the next irish history thread when you start crying because bono posted something on instagram that you didn't like.

>>18511083
No, you are obessed with loyalists because deep down you know Ulster Scots and Anglo Irish people gave you the republicanism you love so much.
Without the patriots and the later united irishmen you'd be a bunch of peasants living in huts still wishing for the stuarts to come back

>>18511067
>Very ironic seeing as how loyalists are racists who last year ethnically cleansed their estates from nonwhites and on the other hand republicans are fine with taking the knee

Go and look up the pictures of King Charles visit to a Primary school in a Loyalist area and come back to me lol. I was shocked myself at the photo and Loyalists themselves were sharing it too and crying.

Fane street Primary school in the Village Belfast last week, king Charles visit. It's your government and home office who are doing that to Belfast.

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>>18511089
It's loyalists kicking them out of ballymena not republicans
it was loyalists setting fire to paki shops in belfast in 2024 not republicans

>>18511080
>while your based nationalist leaders kneel to wogs

I'm from the Republic of Ireland and Sinn féin aren't Nationalists as I explained to you before. Your pm took the knee and your troops and players in the premiership for that nigger George Floyd and there was huge protests in England so what the fuck are you on about you daft cunt?

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>>18511095
Nobody is pretending the PM is a based nationalist though.

>>18511051
>>18511101
please post 1, 2 and 4, I am very curious about this little compilation of yours, the other anon is a bit right, you are a tad obsessed, but I'm beginning to see why

>>18511114
nah

>>18511117
why not, it is interesting how sinn fein socialists went from being revolutionaries and champions of the irish working class to poz'd woke cucks in a heartbeat

>>18511101
And what's your point? Are you trying to say that I'm claiming Michael Martin PM of the Republic of Ireland is a based nationalist? I'm confused. Don't see what that image has got to do with anything either

>>18511121
>went from being revolutionaries and champions of the irish working class to poz'd woke cucks in a heartbeat

Mi5 and trying to attract poz'd middle class fags to vote for them. They destroyed themselves for votes from the middle class that never transpired. The middle class young urban types vote for an even more poz'd party than Sinn féin in the south called the social Democrats and they make Sinn féin look non ppzzed. They're a party that is absolutely soulless and looks like something conjured up by soros lackeys and ngos. Middle class people are pozzed and the source of all our woes.

>>18510056
It's always so embarrassing how you see these books "how irish are the greatest" written by an irishman. "how Scotts invented everything" written by a scott.
It's a sign of a small nation.

>>18509801
The Irish have the highest proportion of Bell Beaker genetic makeup of any country in Europe. It's likely due to it's location as an island, and the furthest west point to travel.
Three major waves of peoples migrated to the island over the last 15,000 years.
The Western Hunter Gatherers, the Early European Farmers, and the Western Steppe Herders.
Their mythology documents these migrations remarkably well. The Fimorians, the Tuatha De Dananna and the Milesians.
The Fimorians likely represent the hunter gatherers. The Tuatha De Danann, probably represent the Anatolian neolithic farmers, and the Milesians probably represent the Bell Beaker Proto Indo European speakers.
The name Tuatha De Danann, means something like the people of the goddess Danu.
They likely originated from a region around Moldova, Ukraine, Romania. which is being called the Cucuteni culture.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucuteni%E2%80%93Trypillia_culture
They were exceptionally advanced societally for the time, but crucially, they lived around major rivers which have names like the Dnepr, the Danube, the Dnester, the Don. Hence the association with "Danu". These are the "Black Irish".
The later Milesians were likely Proto Indo European speaking Bell Beaker culture from western Europe rather than later Gaelic speakers, who seem to have left no genetic mark on Ireland. The Gaelic culture seems to have been only a cultural transfer not a migration.