>Be Jesuits.>Your order was founded to fight Protestants in debates & intellectual arguments.>Prots are good in the humanities & liberal arts (compared to today lmao).>So you studied humanities & the liberal arts to meet prots head on.>Be good at it.>Catholic leadership realizes they can use you to debate other intellectual foes of the Church.>Become the go-to missionaries & advisors for this.>Get sent to Asia? Study Asian religions/philosophies and tell em how you can still be a Catholic & a good Chinese/Japanese/Indian person etc.>Liberal-Enlightenment Philosophers criticizing the church? Study Liberal-Enlightenment and tell em how Catholicism doesn't go against Liberalism.>Nationalists hate the Global Church? Study nationalism & Tell em you can be a good catholic AND a patriot.>Leftists & Marxists telling everyone religion is an opiate of the masses? Study Marxism & argue that Christianity was into Social-Justice first.>Tradcaths Tradretardry making people leave the Catholic Church? Argue that the Church should care about current Social Issues & liberalize a bit or die.>Do this for 500 years-today.>You now have enemies East to West, and left & right of the political spectrum.tl;dr professional trolls for the Catholic Church trolls everyone. Everyone mad as a result (including Catholics),
I WONDER HOW SAD YOUR LIFE MUST BE.
Jesuits were so impossibly based it's hard to wrap my head around the true scale of their contribution not only to religion but world culture.Linguistics would simply not be the same without them, just one example. Without their direct input, from experience in situ, it would be severely underdeveloped.Even if it turns out that the Masonic slander against them as being assassins and secret agents of the Pope were actually true that would just elevate my respect for them.Like, that would just be metal as fuck. It's a damn shame how badly V2 gutted them.
>>18511541>Your order was founded to fight Protestants in debates & intellectual arguments.It was founded to convert the Turks, not protestants, Loyola and Luther were contemporaries and there is not indication Loyola had the slighest idea of who Luther was while hebuilt his order, their trajectories ran parallel —not convergent-— to eachother.
>>18511546He seems positive about it though?
>>18511590It's pretty funny that his opinion includes "trad retards" being the reason the church would "die" or why people leave the church. How only "liberalization", IE compromising with the modern world and everything wrong with it, could save the church.By any objective metric, the general health of the church was in manifest decline for decades after V2.The era of "liberalization" is correlated to high levels of significance with record levels of empty pews, an exodus of priests and nuns, and the collapse of the affiliated parochial school system. Which itself dramatically affects the communal health of particular parish communities.A very worrying trend which only recently has stopped, with the subject being finally stabilized through some means only known to God.News flash, it's *not* because of any "liberalization", but *despite* it.People who have had enough of "liberalization" in the world coming to the church for something the world cannot give them.
>>18511606This is a Westoidcentric view of Vatican II as that shit arrested Catholic Decline in Thirdielands where you could see the only parts of the world where Catholicism is growing & continues to grow.
>>18511625African Catholics are intensely conservative for the most part.Ofc you still have liberals pressuring the Vatican to grant them special dispensations for polygamy because it's their culture.The Vatican should really be more vocal and proactive about their martyrs and then facing violence if they really want to get in their good graces. Instead they're more interested in being "diplomatic".Liberation theology was probably cooked up by the KGB btw.Also, there was no supposed decline in the third world before V2. Much the opposite, 90 percent of LatAm was Catholic and experiencing demographic growth and missionary efforts were strong.I don't know where you're getting this bad information, but it sounds more like something you want to be true.
>>18512108>Liberation theology was probably cooked up by the KGB btw.There we go.
>>18512112Maybe next you'll deny the World Council of Churches being deliberately infiltrated too.
>>18512137>muh infiltration muh infiltration.Maybe your churchmen aren't bugmen and possess different opinions?
They are the reeason why the native tupi languages in Brazil was preserved
>>18512184you don't deny anything I've said ITT because it's true the people who are pulling for "liberalization" of the church include John Podesta, his handlers, his cronies, etcon your side, but have nothing but contempt for the church itselfhttps://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/57579>There were some other good observations yesterday from lib catholics that are worth making it back to our friends.>We created Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good to organize for a moment like this. But I think it lacks the leadership to do so now. Likewise Catholics United. Like most Spring movements, I think this one will have to be bottom up.>There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic church. Is contraceptive coverage an issue around which that could>how one would "plant the seeds of the revolution," or who would plant themhttps://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/50724>“The next pope has a unique opportunity to radically shift the agenda ofthe church. Increasingly, the Catholic church is one that representsinterests far removed from Europe or North America. The cardinals can andshould consider opening their horizons toward a successor from the globalsouth, such as Latin America or Africa, whose experience represents a vastly different worldview than many church leaders.>“Catholics know the heavy burden of the papacy is wrought with challenges. The next pope will have to face the greatest moral challenge of our day: the imminent threat of global climate changecue jpg of Pope blessing a cube of icehope they actually bothered to save the meltings for holy water, but frankly I doubt it was anything more than symbolicwhich is very sad and wasteful, think about all the carbon it took to harvest and transport for a photo opthese political interest groups are totally cool in your book huh
