Christians such as Dr James White and a few others are the only ones who want to engage with Muslims on texts and scripture.The vast majority of Christians including supposed ex-Muslims like Apostate Prophet and Harris Sultan and all of the Iranian ones just want to rant about right wing politics, immigration and birth rates and talk about how much they love white people. For example, when a Christian at the Tommy Robinson riot is brought examples of corruption in the Bible, his response is something such as "don't give a flying fuck, pal. There should be no mosques in England. This is a Christian country"You'll find Sikh Christians and Iranian Christians at the same riot saying "Do you know why Muhammad is not a Prophet? because he's a warlord" but when you bring out the Bible and show them examples of Biblical Prophets going to war they ignore it and start ranting about ISIS, halal meat, grooming gangs, or knife crime in London.You ask a right wing rioter why he thinks the Gospel of John is reliable and he starts blazing into a rant about Hamas attacking Israelis.What is the relationship of any of these current affairs and political topics as to whether Islam or Christianity is true or not?Very few Christians, including the "ex-Muslims" are actually interested in religion besides surface-level labelling.
Christianity is all about making up stuff and ignoring the Old Testament because it hurts my feefees :(Noooo women covering your hair is misogynistic. Noooo actually we can eat pork. Muh new covenant (even though jesus came to fulfill the law not abolish it) etc etcOrthodox Jews, Muslims, Samaritans, they actually follow the traditions and laws that Jesus and the early Church would have followed. Although they too did add a lot to the law
This constitutes a Judaization of Christianity. It becomes affiliated with particular ethnic groups who are increasingly insular and skeptical towards external commentary.This is a good thing as it's a robust strategy which enables survival in hostile, multicultural environments, much like what Jewish communities faced for most of their existence. Nonwhites are generally frustrated by this. The envious ones because it adds yet more barriers in the way of them becoming white adjacent. The hostile ones because they know it makes whites much harder to crush politically or spiritually.
>James White>>Dr
>"don't give a flying fuck, pal. There should be no mosques in England. This is a Christian country"why does this feel so based to me?
Why do Muslims think anyone cares to talk to them? Why do they feel entitled to some kind of debate over which version of the Jew god we should be worshipping?
>>18511919Well its actually a Celtic/Anglo-Saxon pagan country and will be again once the Abrahamic trio is shoved out.
What would be the point of having dialouge with members of a crazy middle eastern cult? Might as well be having a dialouge with flat earthers. A muslim is like a person whose brain got replaced with a piece of dung. I literally cannot see those people in any other way even if I try.
>>18512495>Well its actually a Celtic/Anglo-Saxon pagan country1,800 years ago? that time is long gone.
>>18511847I read a few chapters of the Quran and it was all the stories of the old testament but twisted and changed.
>What is the relationship of any of these current affairs and political topics as to whether Islam or Christianity is true or not?For dogmatists, that the dogma is true is axiomatic. Therefore in any way impugning your counterclaim, or your religion, or the cultural practices it permits, is Q.E.D. Every other dogmatist who disagrees with you and doesn't have the exact same problem is actually instantly reassured you can be dismissed. That's why you will always hear it. If someone responds this way, it is most likely they are an actual religious person who believes what their mystagogue says, and if they transgress their (howsoever young) traditions at all it's because they're even more sure a YouTube video got Jesus (or Mohammad or whatever) more right on such and such point. Among "Christians" it's crypto-atheist seekers for whom Jesus is a metaphor and Enlightenment skeptics who sit in an Episcopal pew and doubt the ressurection who give a damn about any theologian, exegete, apocryphon, or recondite bit of Bible scholarship. For everyone else, that their religion is true is not in question.Dawah bros aren't interested in theology either, they receive their entire worldview whole from an institution and run generic scripts on people, and feel relieved when their interlocutors turn out to be bereaved and credulous. If they thought other theologoumena were worth considering and not just refuting with recourse to some pea brain Arab, they would be Ismaili and get a haircut.
Religious belief is a driving force in a society, giving people a collective identity that they can rally behind. Add a layer of tribal/ethnic dimension to it where a person becomes innately a member of the group through birth and you can create a strong and insular group, far more prepared against the hardships of modern, atomised society. The poster talking about how this is a Judaization of Christianity is correct, and this is a good thing. Christianity in order to survive in the western world, and specifically for whites to maintain themselves we must remove the universalist cancer from this religion and transform it into an ethnic religion. OP is a retard and the worst kind of retard, someone who is navel-gazing at irrelevant theological minutia instead of looking at the big picture. It doesn't matter how many angels can dance on a pinprick, or what some bishop from 1800 years said, what matters is racial survival. Whether the religion is true or not, or whether God exists or not is irrelevant.
>>18511847This is the same basic behavior as the vast majority of religious people (as well as ideologies like fedora-atheism, communism, etc.), doesn't matter whose team they count themselves on. The difficult truth is that most people are utterly immersed in tribalism (my group good, I don't like people who they tell me not to). The world's religions all contain truths but very few people have any impulse to seek it out. Of course most people here aren't ready to realize this.
Why would you engage in talks with someone whose religion explicitly allows lying to outsiders (Taqiyyah) as long as they're operating under the terms of jihad, a concept which is ongoing and does not need to be declared to outsiders? When you're dealing with people like that, you legitimately have to assume they're lying to you about literally everything.
>>18514052So you cannot be reasoned with, and as such should be disenfranchised from any public discourse.
>>18511847Easy. There is literally no real archaeological evidence that burying female infants alive was a widespread practice among Arab pagans. Not even contemporary Christian writers ever mentioned it which is telling since they hated all forms of paganism and did everything they could to frame them in a negative lens. While they did have a tendency to exaggerate or make up certain things, we know for a fact that if a practice really did exist and was widespread among pagans, Christian writers would have certainly mentioned it and the fact that not a single one of them mentions this practice (especially in passages detailing Arab customs) is a clear indication that the practice of burying female infants alive is a later revisionist polemic.
>>18512707>must remove the universalist cancer from this religion and transform it into an ethnic religionYou already lost that right the moment Jesus said to preach to all nations.
>>18514109I saved your fucking thread with my bump, you stupid brown faggot. Don't start that shit with me, just thank me.
>>18514221I'm not the OP or brown, obsessed faggot.
>>18514109>Oh shit this guy looked into how we work. MAKE HIM STOP TALKING, QUICK!Without lies, Islam dies.
>>18514226I don't give a shit about your religious differences, but the moment someone believes entire groups of people are inherent liars just because of the religion they were born into, it's time to discriminate that individual with brutal prejudice.
Chopping bits of baby boy penises is not okayRaping little girls is not okayWorshipping a box in a desert is not okay
>Raping little girls is not okay
>>18514227>just because the religion they practice explicitly condone lyingFTFY, retard. That's the last (You), though, I don't feel good arguing with the functionally illiterate.
>>18514241> don't feel good arguing with the functionally illiterate.You're functionally retarded, yet here I am still trying to educate you. Speaks to our differences in character, doesn't it?>N-no! You can't infirm meaning from text!But we both know it's not about what practice, but what they are. Don't we?
