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Zoroastrianism is the true religion, but none of you are ready for that conversation yet.
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>>18512193
>but none of you are ready for that conversation yet.
How could you tell that i m Brazilian, senhor??
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>>18512193
You're obviously not a religious person if you defend such an anti-religious concept such as 'le true religion'. You're just posing as religious person, but we can tell what you are.
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By stated history it's the first. And from what the fire priests allow non members(you cannot convert to zoroasterism) to know - you need to perform good deeds AND think good thoughts. On the positive side it literally stresses WAGMI some day
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>>18512193
>Zoroastrianism
Contains some aspects of truth but is not the embodiment of truth entirely.
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>>18512193
You mean Manichaeism
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>>18512677
>megalomaniac from babylonian makes a cult of personality about worshiping himself, justifies it by borrowing from the main religions of his time
Nah, you're better off just trying to understand the respective source-religions on their own terms and then trying to reconcile them. Of course this means that it won't just be handed to you on a platter so that scares away most people.
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sum up what it is and a few of its important qualities, I've always been curious about it
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>>18512830
Mani lived as a total pacifist. Who gives a shit if he was a meglomanic, he genuinely believed his own visions and his religion was peaceful, even to animals and plants.
Who are you to doubt his own beliefs?
Besides Jesus as a moon god is cool.
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>>18512677
dubs of truth
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>>18512908
Good thought, good words and good deeds. The world is going through a purification process and unlike the Abrahamic religions the world isn't in a fallen state neither is mankind, but there is a god of light who created everything good and a god of darkness who made everything evil and the world will end in a battle between the two after a savor arrives
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>>18512193
Unfortunate that Parsis retards are gate keeping the religion
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>>18513009
It’s a common misconception, but no, Zoroastrianism does not forbid conversions.

The only Zoroastrians who do forbid conversions are the Parsis in India (descendants of Persian Zoroastrians who fled to India after the Arab conquest of Iran). Forbidding conversions is not practiced by any Zoroastrian outside India. It was not practiced when Zoroastrianism was a major religion and no Zoroastrian text forbids conversion.

The only reason Parsis forbid conversions is because when they fled to India, local princes allowed them to keep practicing their faith under the condition that they don’t convert people and this has stuck with them.
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>>18513014
How steppe ancestry is required?
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>>18513031
It isn’t, read what I said again but slowly.
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>>18512193
>the true religion is one you are strictly forbidden from converting to

how does this help any of us?
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>>18513014
>Forbidding conversions is not practiced by any Zoroastrian outside India
I have Iranian friends who have told me that they have "reverse missionaries" who go investigate their own community to kick out converts from their congregations.
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>>18513014
Is Zoroastrianism patriarchal or matriarchal?
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>>18513014
Why are you spreading false information, Westoid? It's very similar to magical desert Judaism. To begin with, ***you don't truly convert***. You can have a navjote, where you receive your sedreh and take on more responsibilities, like prayers and other things, but to be truly Zoroastrian, you only need to follow the Humata Hukhta Huwarshta: Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds. Something you honestly aren't capable of.
>>18513039
>missionaries
>conversions
Why are you using a Jewish context within the Zoroastrian worldview? What makes you think we have "missionaries"?
>>18513041
What kind of stupid question is that? Stop trolling
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>>18513039
Are these “Iranian friends” in the room with us right now?
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>>18513045
I want to become a fire worshipper
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>>18513050
? Stop trolling You Westerners have lost yourselves into Jewish fantasies to such extreme levels that you are spiritually lost. This is why we have so many "pagans" of dead religions since the Iron Age ("druids" in 2026). You want to fill this existential void with anything and after the advance of the so-called "alt right" you seek anything that is "ethnic," placing race above the transcendent, this search for belonging that your own religions are unable to provide.

Yes, in some parts of the world, due to historical and political realities, unfortunately, it has degenerated into an ethnic religion (something that would clearly horrify O Zarathustra), but I don't really blame some in the community for hesitating to accept converts.

You know why? Given how clearly insincere, emotional, and static people are, especially in the West, some of these "converts" are in relation to their newfound "faith." Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism are good examples of this unfortunate reality.
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>>18512193
No it isn't.
>>18512256
It depends on the area, time-period, but historically people of differing religious traditions have always thought that theirs was at the very least more true and better than any of the others. Nothing anti-religiou about that.
>>18513036
You can convert to some strands of Zoroastrianism (the non-Indians ones). And prior to domination by other religions that demanded they not proselytize they did accept converts. Though generally they didn't get many. No matter how much I have looked, I haven't been able to find much evidence of Zoros ever being particularly interested in spreading their religion like the Abrahamic ones are. Despite being unmistakeably related to those.
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Abrahamism mogged again
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>>18513057
In fact, I have even heard arguments that Sassanid Iran was on its way to Christianization, prior to Islam. Though I wouldn't go as far as that. And as far as the religions of late antiquity goes, they are obly ahead of the Mandeans in influence and staying power.
>>18513062
Oh man so you are one of those, then.
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It's incredible. Even though the topic isn't even about Christianity, it's necessary to remember how negative Christianity is, always Honestly, these daily spam threads about Christianity have gotten out of contro
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>>18513062
lmao kafir cope
zoroastrian is one of the most mogged and humiliated religions in modern times
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>>18513062
Anon, you are a pasty white boy from europe or america who grew up playing too much CK2 and spent your years growing up without religion in the 2000s. I understand you have an autistic fixation with Zoroastrianism and Varg videos, but that pathetic religion isn't mogging anything. It's barely clinging to existence and its homeland converted to Islam centuries ago.
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>>18513045
>Why are you using a Jewish context within the Zoroastrian worldview?
Because there is no better term in the english language for someone who runs around deconverting people within a community. You could clearly tell what was meant.

What I hear irl is not what I hear online, and I'm inclined to trust them over you.
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>>18513067
>Sassanid Iran was on its way to Christianization, prior to Islam
This is untrue. There was no “decline” of Zoroastrianism amongst ethnic Iranians and archeology attests to this. Christianity in the Sassanid Empire only took off among non-Iranian minorities such as Armenians, Arabs, Assyrians, and Chaldeans (all of whom were explicitly classified as anērān literally meaning “non-Iranians” in Middle Persian). Amongst ethnic Iranians (ērān) such as Persians, Medes, Parthians, Bactrians, etc, Zoroastrianism was still widespread and there was no sign of widespread discontent. I doubt Iran could have ever become majority Christian, especially since Christianity was seen as a fundamentally “Roman” religion and therefore anti-Iranian.

Even after the Islamic conquests, Zoroastrianism was still widespread based on how high the jizya tax rates were in conquered Iranian territories compared to other regions of the caliphate. Zoroastrianism didn’t become a minority until at least 200 years after the Arab conquest of Iran and during that time period, there were plenty of anti-Islam revolts led by Zoroastrians; just look up the Khurramites. Even the Ziyarid dynasty was founded by a Zoroastrian named Mardavij who was actually pretty close to expelling Islam from the country before he was assassinated by a Turkish slave.
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>>18513039
Are those friends Zoroastrian or just from Iran. The difference does matter in this case.
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>>18513079
One was a muslim. The other's dad was an atheist who deconverted from zoroastrianism
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>>18513081
>Muslim
So not legitimate sources to begin with
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>>18513078
Well I never said there was. Conversion of a realm from one religion to another is more often than not a top-down phenomenon. Hellenic paganism itself only began to be truly displaced after Constantine legalized and endorsed it. And that was certainly the trend, sans Islam.
> I doubt Iran could have ever become majority Christian, especially since Christianity was seen as a fundamentally “Roman” religion and therefore anti-Iranian.
The Sassanid empire's widespread toleration of Non-chalcedonian forms of Christianity seems to run in disagreement of that. Plus, the demographic core of Sassanid Persia was in Mesopotamia, not the highlands, so there's that, too.
>Even after the Islamic conquests, Zoroastrianism was still widespread based on how high the jizya tax rates were in conquered Iranian territories compared to other regions of the caliphate.
Sure. But compared to middle eastern Christians they proved easier to convert. Today, Zoros make up 0.03% or so percent of Iran (outnumbered by even Christians!), Egypt's Christians are 8% of its population. Chritianity has been more enduring, at least.
>>18513081
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>>18512193
idk if its the true religion, but its probably the oldest
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>>18513062
Lmao what book is this from?
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>>18512193
The ancient Iranians described by the Greeks possessed a relatively simple and uninstitutionalized religion similar to Early Vedic religion. According to Herodotus, they did not erect temples, statues, or altars, considering such practices foolish. Their sacrifices were performed outdoors, on mountaintops or in open spaces, directed to Heaven, the Sun, the Moon, the Earth, Fire, Water, and the Winds. They did not use divine images, did not maintain large priestly complexes, and did not depend on a religious bureaucracy to mediate their relationship with the Ahuras.

Ancient Iran never had an organized religion. The Daevic Babylonians, the same ones who created Judaism under Persian rule, started shilling organized Zoroastrianism during the Achaemenid Dynasty. Actually, the main reason why the Sassanids fell was because Zoroastrian Mobeds took over the power. The Sassanid era was just like the contemporary Islamic Republic in Iran. There was an extremely ruthless Zoroastrian mobed called Kartir who was the shadow king of Iran and his actions which were exactly like that of Khamenei led Iran to it's demise.

> Herodotus's Histories (Book 1, Chapter 131)

>"As to the usages of the Persians, I know them to be these. It is not their custom to make and set up statues and temples and altars, but those who make such they deem foolish, as I suppose, because they never believed the gods, as do the Greeks, to be in the likeness of men; but they call the whole circle of heaven Zeus, and to him they offer sacrifice on the highest peaks of the mountains; they sacrifice also to the sun and moon and earth and fire and water and winds.k These are the only gods to whom they have ever sacrificed from the beginning; they have learnt later, to sacrifice to the "heavenly" Aphrodite, from the Assyrians and Arabians. She is called by the Assyrians Mylitta, by the Arabians Alilat, by the Persians Mitra."
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>>18513235
>"And this is their fashion of sacrifice to the aforesaid gods: when about to sacrifice they neither build altars nor kindle fire, they use no libations, nor music, nor fillets, nor barley meal; but to whomsoever of the gods a man will sacrifice, he leads the beast to an open space and then calls on the god, himself wearing a wreath on his cap, of myrtle for choice. To pray for blessings for himself alone is not lawful for the sacrificer; rather he prays that it may be well with the king and all the Persians; for he reckons himself among them. He then cuts the victim limb from limb into portions, and having boiled the flesh spreads the softest grass, trefoil by choice, and places all of it on this. When he has so disposed it a Magian comes near and chants over it the song of the birth of the gods, as the Persian tradition relates it; for no sacrifice can be offered without a Magian. Then after a little while the sacrificer carries away the flesh and uses it as he pleases."

>Vedism refers to the oldest form of the Vedic religion, when Indo-Aryans entered into the valley of the Indus River in multiple waves during the 2nd millennium BCE. Brahmanism refers to the further developed form of the late Vedic period which took shape at the Ganges basin around c. 1000 BCE. According to Heesterman, "It is loosely known as Brahmanism because of the religious and legal importance it places on the brāhmaṇa (priestly) class of society." During the late Vedic period, the Brahmanas and early Upanishads were composed. Both Vedism and Brahmanism regard the Veda as sacred, but Brahmanism is more inclusive, incorporating doctrines and themes beyond the Vedas with practices like temple worship, puja, meditation, renunciation, vegetarianism, the role of the guru, and other non-Vedic elements important to Hindu religious life

>temple worship, puja, meditation, renunciation, vegetarianism, the role of the guru, and other non-Vedic elements
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Not reading
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>>18513235
>>18513243
KINO
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>>18513360
I also discovered something related to the Persians' use of the word Aryan. They called their writing/language Aryan.

https://cdli.earth/articles/cdlb/2024-3
>θāti Dārayavauš xšāyaθiya vašnā Auramazdāha ima dipiriyam taya adam akunavam patišam Ariyā, utā pavastakāyā utā grīyā (or: gṛdayā) āha?, patišamci nipaiθanam akunavam, patišam vācā akunavam, utā niyapaiθiya utā patiyafraθiya paišiyā mām, pasāva ima dipiriyam frāstāyam vispadā antar dahyāva, kāra hamauxθantā

>Saith Darius the king: By the favor of Ahuramazdā this (is) the text which I made, besides in Aryan, both on parchment and on clay (it) was?, Besides, also I made the place of writing, besides, I instructed the words, and it was written and was read (aloud) before me, Afterwards I sent this text everywhere throughout the lands. The people spoke the same (text/words)

>patišam Ariyā

>besides in Aryan

This is interesting because Indo-Iranian was not only spoken by Persians, but by peoples ranging from Türkiye to Sri Lanka. Although Iranians like to claim the title of Aryans for themselves, the inscription of Darius, the first Iranian ruler to call himself Aryan, refers to the Afghanistan as the Aryan Land (probably because Zoroaster was born in to the East of Iran, which is where Afghanistan is located, and it was because of him that they started using that word to try to unify the different Iranian tribes).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNa_inscription
>Māda Ūvja Parθava Haraiva

>"Media, Elam, Parthia, Aria"

>Herat is first recorded in ancient times, but its precise date of foundation is unknown. Under the Persian Achaemenid Empire (550–330 BC), the surrounding district was known by the Old Persian name of Haraiva (𐏃𐎼𐎡𐎺), and in classical sources, the region was correspondingly known as Areia (Aria). In the Zoroastrian collection of Avesta, the district is referred as Haroiva
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>>18513798
Even the Greeks knew that other people besides Iranians were called Aryans.

>In the Greco-Roman world, Ariana was a geographical term referring to a general area of land between Central Asia and the Indus River. Situated far to the east in the Achaemenid Empire, it covered a number of satrapies spanning what is today the entirety of Afghanistan, the easternmost parts of Iran, and the westernmost parts of Pakistan. "Ariana" is Latinized from Greek: Ἀρ(ε)ιανή Ar(e)ianē [region]; Ἀρ(ε)ιανοί Ar(e)ianoi [demonym]. The Greek word, in turn, is derived from the term Airyanem (lit.'Land of the Aryans') in Avestan

Ironically, the Pashtuns (the native people of Afghanistan) appear in the Rig Veda, but as enemies of the Vedic Aryans.

>A tribe called Pakthās, one of the tribes that fought against Sudas in the Dasarajna, or "Battle of the Ten Kings", are mentioned in the seventh mandala of the Rigveda, a text of Vedic Sanskrit hymns dated between c. 1500 and 1200 BCE

>"Together came the Pakthas (पक्थास), the Bhalanas, the Alinas, the Sivas, the Visanins. Yet to the Trtsus came the Ārya's Comrade, through love of spoil and heroes' war, to lead them."

>—Rigveda, Book 7, Hymn 18, Verse 7

>Heinrich Zimmer connects them with a tribe mentioned by Herodotus (Pactyans) in 430 BCE in the Histories:

>"Other Indians dwell near the town of Caspatyrus[Κασπατύρῳ] and the Pactyic [Πακτυϊκῇ] country, north of the rest of India; these live like the Bactrians; they are of all Indians the most warlike, and it is they who are sent for the gold; for in these parts all is desolate because of the sand."

>—Herodotus, The Histories, Book III, Chapter 102, Section 1

The Sassasinadas also referred to the Turanians (Central Asians like the Afghans) as non-Aryans, even though Turan was the brother of Iraj, the patriarch of the Persians.
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>>18512369
>you cannot convert to zoroasterism
That's just the Parsi sect.
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>>18513798
>>18513896
BTW Still talking about the word Aryan, I discovered that the person who coined it with that spelling was accused of fraud.

>The term Arya was first rendered into a modern European language in 1771 as Aryens by French Indologist Abraham-Hyacinthe Anquetil-Duperron, who rightly compared the Greek arioi with the Avestan airya and the country name Iran. A German translation of Anquetil-Duperron's work led to the introduction of the term Arier in 1776. The Sanskrit word ā́rya is rendered as 'noble' in William Jones' 1794 translation of the Indian Laws of Manu, and the English Aryan (originally spelt Arian) appeared a few decades later, first as an adjective in 1839, then as a noun in 1851

>A heated dispute broke out in Britain and in Europe, which questioned the authenticity of this claimed first translation into a European languages of the Avesta scriptures. It was suggested that Anquetil-Duperron's so-called Zend Avesta was not the genuine work of the prophet Zoroaster, but was a recent forgery. At the fore in this dispute was William Jones, an Oxford graduate, at the time studying law at the Middle Temple in London. Jones, the future founder of the Asiatic Society who would become known for his hypothesis in 1786 regarding a relationship among European and Indo-Aryan languages, had been deeply wounded by Anquetil-Duperron's scornful treatment of Jones's countrymen and, in a pamphlet written in French in 1771, Jones dismissed Anquetil-Duperron's manuscripts as a fraud. Other scholars in England criticised Anquetil-Duperron's translation on philological grounds

>In France, Voltaire poked fun at Anquetil-Duperron and his translation in his article "Zoroastre" (1772) in the Questions sur l'Encyclopédie. Diderot was likewise similarly "conspicuously disappointed"
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>>18513932
>For these philosophes the ideas revealed by Anquetil-Duperron's translation seemed impossible to relate to the idealized Enlightenment-era view of Zoroaster or to his religion which they associated with simplicity and wisdom. Many German scholars, with the notable except of Herder, also attacked Anquetil-Duperron's translation

>In 1820, fifteen years after his death, Anquetil-Duperron was vindicated by the Danish philologist Rasmus Rask. The debate would rage for another thirty years after that. Anquetil-Duperron's "attempt at a translation was, of course, premature", and, as Eugène Burnouf demonstrated sixty years later, translating the Avesta via a previous translation was prone to errors. However, Anquetil-Duperron was the first to bring an ancient oriental sacred text other than the Bible to the attention of European scholars
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>Persians' use of the word Aryan. They called their writing/language Aryan.
Wow! Who would have thought, right? Wow, this is new. Nobody would EVER have imagined it, right?
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>>18513045
>>18513052
>>18513073
>westoid
Kys
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>>18513099
>The Sassanid empire's widespread toleration of Non-chalcedonian forms of Christianity seems to run in disagreement of that
They still heavily restricted them due to being non-Zoroastrian and again, the Roman Empire being the center of Christianity is what made the Sassanids view ALL Christians as a potential fifth column.
Literally the only way for Iran to have become Christian is for Rome to have never become Christian and remained pagan, therefore meaning that the Sassanids would have a less hostile view of Christianity.
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>>18513965
It depended on the ruler. Hell a couple of them even married Christian women.
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>>18513937
Besides the Persians, only the Kushans did this.

>The Rabatak Inscription is a stone inscribed with text written in the Bactrian language and Greek script, found in 1993 at Rabatak, near Surkh Kotal in Afghanistan. The inscription relates to the rule of the Kushan emperor Kanishka, and gives remarkable clues on the genealogy of the Kushan dynasty. It dates to the 2nd century CE

>1.[….]νο βωγο στοργο κανηþκε κοþανο ραþτογο λαδειγo χοαζαοαργο βαγ[η]-

>2. ζνογο κιδι ασo νανα oδo ασo oισπoανo µι βαγανo ι þαoδανo αβoρδo κιδι ιωγo χþoνo

>3. νoβαστo σ(α)γωνδι βαγανo σινδαδo oτηια ι ιωναγγo oασo oζoαστo ταδηια oριαo ωσ-

>"... Of the great salvation, Kanishka the Kushan, the righteous, the just, the autocrat, the god."

>"Worthy of worship, who has obtained the kingship from Nana and from all the gods, who has inaugurated the year one."

>"As the gods pleased. And he *issued a Greek *edict (and) then he put it into Aryan."

The curious thing is that the Rabatak Inscription is the only Kushan inscription that uses the word Aryan, and it is used only as a linguistic indicator, not an ethnic one, hue.

>The "Arya language"

>Follows a statement regarding the writing of the inscription itself, indicating that the language used by Kanishka in his inscription was self-described as the "Aryan language"

>"It was he who laid out (i.e. discontinued the use of) the Ionian ("ιωνα", Yona, Greek) speech and then placed the Arya ("αρια", Aryan) speech."
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>>18512984
Fun fact.

Manichean doctrines actually influenced the development of Chinese Mahayana Buddhism, and to that extent anyone downstream of them, and these people would even merge to form groups like the White Lotus Society. Mani himself would eventually be celebrated as an incarnation of the Buddha. Which I'd imagine would be to his consternation, unfortunately eclipsing Jesus himself in that way.
The Avalokitesvara parallels make too much sense in this context, and I am convinced that there is actually Christian originated influence in that devotion.
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I am not the first to notice the parallels between Guanyin and Jesus, with his mother.

The Jesuits also noticed this.
In fact, late Ming era local magisterial decrees would often explicitly associate the White Lotus Society with underground Catholic congregations which most almost necessarily be affiliated with the Jesuits.
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>>18513798
>Darius, the first Iranian ruler to call himself Aryan

I say this only because he was the first to use it in an ethnic way (Darius possibly even invented a story about Bardiya, son of Cyrus II and successor of Cambyses II, having been killed and having his identity stolen by a Magi named Gaumata, and that Teispes, grandfather of Cyrus II, was the son of a certain Achaemenes and brother of a certain Ariaramnes, characters who are never mentioned in any other documents besides the Pasargadae/Cyrus Tomb Inscription, which does not mention the genealogy and Achaemenes was written after the death of Cyrus II since the Greek historian Arrian visited the place and did not see Achaemenes inscribed).

>Aryenis (Ancient Greek: Αρυηνις, romanized: Aruēnis; Latin: Aryenis) was, according to Herodotus, the daughter of the Lydian king Alyattes and the sister of the Lydian king Croesus

>The name Aryenis comes from the Latin transliteration of the Ancient Greek Aruēnis (Αρυηνις), which was itself the Hellenised form of a Lydian name cognate with the Hittite term arawanni- (𒂖), which meant "free", that is a free person, as opposed to an enslaved or unfree person

>Following the Battle of the Eclipse, she was married to Astyages, son of the Median king Cyaxares as part of a diplomatic marriage to seal a peace treaty between Media and Lydia. Aryenis became the Queen consort of Astyages when he succeeded Cyaxares

>Astyages was the last king of the Median kingdom, reigning from 585 to 550 BCE. The son of Cyaxares, he was dethroned by the Persian king Cyrus the Great

>Arukku (Old Persian: *Aryauka or *Aryavuka, or *Aryūka; Neo-Assyrian Akkadian: 𒀀𒊒𒊌𒆪, romanized: Arukku; Elamite: 𒄯𒊑𒌋𒊌𒋡, romanized: Har(r)iuwukka; Imperial Aramaic: 𐡀𐡓𐡉𐡅𐡊, romanized: Aryuk; * before 656 BC) was the eldest son of King Kuras (Cyrus I) from Parsumaš
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>>18513965
I would say that view is outdated now. For one, after the council of Seleucia-Ctesiphon christianity stopped being legally persecuted and Christians were organized into a separate church of the sassanid empire. The Church of the east was not in communion with the Roman one, and followed a different Christology altogether.
I am no good at explaining it, so I'll just link to a lecture by M. J. Bonner where he expounds on the complicated relationship between christianity and the Sassanid empire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVa5diGYNhc
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>>18514314
If these people didn't exist and Astyages wasn't Cyrus II's maternal grandfather, I would say that Darius used the Aryan lineage and Achaemenes because his father learned this from the Brahmins in India, and Cyrus II, despite having ancestors with Iranian names like his great-grandfather Teispes, his name is of Elamite origin and he worshipped Marduk, not Ahura-Mazda. Therefore, Darius could not use Zoroastrianism to claim the Persian throne.

>Ammianus Marcellinus makes him a chief of the Magians, and tells a story of his studying in India under the Brahmins, an event that would correspond to the Achaemenid conquest of the Indus Valley:

>"Hystaspes, a very wise monarch, the father of Darius. Who while boldly penetrating into the remoter districts of upper India, came to a certain woody retreat, of which with its tranquil silence the Brahmans, men of sublime genius, were the possessors. From their teaching he learnt the principles of the motion of the world and of the stars, and the pure rites of sacrifice, as far as he could; and of what he learnt he infused some portion into the minds of the Magi, which they have handed down by tradition to later ages, each instructing his own children, and adding to it their own system of divination".

>—Ammianus Marcellinus, XXIII. 6

The fact that Bardiya's alleged impostor was a Magi was also used by him to suppress them and reinstate them as de facto Zoroastrian organized priests.

>Magophonia refers to an ancient Persian festival that translates to "the slaughter of the Magi". It commemorated a violent purge of the Zoroastrian priestly caste (the Magi) by seven Persian nobles in 522 BCE following their assassination of the usurper Gaumata, who had impersonated Cyrus the Great's son, Bardiya
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>>18512369
>you cannot convert to zoroasterism

This is refuted by the Zoroastrian inscriptions themselves.

>"Hail to us! for he is born, the Athravan, Spitama Zarathushtra. Zarathushtra will offer us sacrifices with libations and bundles of baresma; and there will the good Law of the worshippers of Mazda come and spread through all the seven Karshvares of the earth." (Avesta, Yast 13, §24, 94)

>According to this tradition, the world was divided into seven (circular) regions (karšvar < karš- ‘to plough’; AirWb., cols. 458, 459, hence a tract of land bordered by a ploughed line, see Pur(-e) Dāwud, 1974, p. 111; Pah. and New Pers. kešvar,var. keškar; Manich. Parth. kišfar, see Mir. Man. III, p. 43). These were imagined as separated from one another by forests, mountains, or water, six flanking a central one called in Avesta Xvaniraθa- (MPers. Xwanirah, New Pers. Ḵoniras, Arabicized Honi-rat/Ḵonāras, probably Xvaniraθa- ‘self-made, not resting on anything else’, see Gershevitch, p. 176), which equaled in size all the rest combined and surpassed them in prosperity and fortune (Geiger, pp. 300-303; Boyce, Zoroastrianism I, pp. 133-34; Pur(-e) Dāwud, 1974, pp. 112-14). Originally only this continent was inhabited by man and the fabled home of the Aryans (Airyō.šayana-) was located there (Yt. 10. 13 with Bundahišn 14. 38, tr. Anklesaria, pp. 134-35), but the Čihrdād nask (q.v.) had described how men propagated and scattered into other regions and formed different races and rites (Dēnkard 8.13.2-3 with Christensen, 1917, pp. 13, 119)

>"And spread through all the seven Karshvares of the earth."
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If a true religion dies, do all humans just go to Hell? Seems unfair.



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