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Why was it the Moors who reintroduced bathing and sanitation standards into Europe? Were Europeans unable to refigure this stuff out? Why was so much information lost in Western Europe? I heard it was basically due to the papyrus falling apart and limited supply of vellum (unlike the Middle East and China which had paper) thus European scribes could only record so much.
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>>18512311
>Moors
The moors in question were white, and brown skinned people are foreign detritus.
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Bathing fell out of fashion in Europe during the black plague.
Because Europeans being most intelligent than brownoids, understood that disease had to have a cause beside "God's wrath", but misidentified the cause in question.
And bathing came back into fashion in the late 18th century
Absolutely nothing to do with the Moors
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>>18512311
Ye but you can't live on old merits. Like young white American men getting shit for slavery. The Arabs wee probably cool at some point. Fucking with numbers and stars. Alchemy n shiet. But today in modern times they are not. Shit changes all the time
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>>18512311
Panchitada histórica.
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>>18512436
The Black Plague was in the 1300s. There are historical records that there were baths in Al-Andalus in the 700s.
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Spain's paternal haplotypes are little different from France, they only differ from northern Europeans in that they lack a fraction of I2a. The Umayyads were a small number of highly specialized desert cavalry seeking to position themselves as rulers not a migration.

>bathing and sanitation standards
Many of Spain's cities for example retained the civic structure that had existed since the Romans, albeit with a far smaller population and less prosperity, they had baths and literacy and the rest of it.

>information lost
Literacy did totally collapse in far off places like Britain, but by the 6th century Celtic Christians eagerly sought its revival and promptly Christianized the Anglo-Saxons. There was no collapse in France, just a plummet in the volume of surviving texts from that period.

>Were Europeans unable to refigure this stuff out?
It would take longer for the value of Greek mathematics as well as other scientific works and literature to be recognized in Europe. A typical landlord, merchant or artisan in the 9th century could make their necessary calculations with pre-Euclidean mathematics. If they faced a problem like calculating compound interest they could use approximations, or perhaps change the deal they were making to one easier for both parties to calculate so if it came to a lawsuit they could more easily plead their case to a disinterested judge.

Its value became more apparent among architects seeking to construct ever more impressive churches and Europe's first cathedrals, the question of how big a load bearing arch can you construct safely with zero risk of it ever collapsing, now or in the future when they are in heaven looking down at their work. It would be Spain that Pope Sylvester II sought to procure the works of the Greeks from Spain, apparently a more reliable source than Byzantium or Rome itself.
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>>18512485
There were bath everywhere in Europe in the 700s, mong
That's my entire point, the black plague is the moment Europeans rejected bathing
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>>18512450
>you can't live on old merits
Literally the entire base of Spicniard nationalism.
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>>18512615
Why did spics outright steal the flag of bourgogne?
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>>18512436
This is retarded Hollywood history. Go back to your containment boards. The only thing that declined after the 14th century were PUBLIC BATHHOUSES in places like England (because of the plague) and France (because they were whorehouses under a different name and were spreading syphilis). People still washed themselves regularly, but in private. And even then, public bathing continued being a thing in many countries like Hungary, Russia, Poland, Turkey, Sweden and so on.
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You will never be Mediterranean.
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