Your friendly reminder that the "aryan" invasion of India never happened.
>>18515580Do you have any evidence for this assertion, saar?
>>18515580Who cares it was thousands of years ago. meanwhile aryans are getting BBC invasions right now as we speak
>>18515580Why does this pic look AI generated?
>>18515580>never happened.genetics and linguistics prove that it did
>>18515689she's cute, what's her @
>>18515689And yet you have zero achaeological evidence and everything in your fantasy has been rejected by modern historians.
>>18515580Is this a switcheroo to the Aryan Migrations theory?
>>18515827Good morning sir, where is the poop lassi?
>>18516269>no argumentConcession accepted.
>>18516445>>18515827you are a retarded monkey
>>18515827>modern historiansall named -berg and -stein I'm sure
>>18516519>all named -berg and -stein I'm sureThose "historians" that agree with him, if they exist, all have Indian names
>>18516454migration isn't invasion
>>18517103quiet down monkey
>>18516445>>18515580Cope and seethe, jam boy.
>>18517103The archeological and genetic evidence shows they razed the towns and killed all the men.
>>18515689Except they were Iranic not some weird germanic nordic mix you are trying to depict. Germanic people are the byproduct of Scythian and Sarmatian Slave classes and didn't exist at the time you are showing.
Germanics and Nordics claiming that they are the pure 'Indo Europeans or Indo Aryans' is like a Jamaican or a Pakistani claiming they were the creators of the British Empire
>>18517493>The archeological and genetic evidence shows they razed the towns and killed all the men.lolnoNo Harrapan site shows any evidence of destruction.
>>18515827you should unironically welcome the fact that your poople got blessed by the mighty BWC and bleached a little
>>18517525>>18515827We have the genetic data. The R1a Haplotype specific to India originated somewhere in Poland in a Swedish like group.
>>18517525Indra definitely had blonde hair though
>>18519004Anon, you're talking to a retard who is insecure about the possibility of having a White great, great, great, ... great granddaddy. There's no such thing as evidence that threatens his ego in his world.
>>18517111immigration isn't invasion.You follow the rules of a country and apply to go there
>>18519004>poland>swedenthey couldn't be more different.Poland are negros who never accomplished anything and swedes are sarcastic microstate farmers
>>18515689>>18515827>And yet you have zero achaeological evidence and everything in your fantasy has been rejected by modern historians.More importantly, even if we assume this>we wuz literally everyonecope is true, you're left with an uncomfortable question: how did this ancient super-Aryan civilization collapse? Because the narrative here is that apparently they got blown the fuck out by low caste Indians which would be embarrassing to say the least.According to the timeline in the bottom left of that pic, India was populated by a race of white Nordic "Brahmins" right up until the beginning of the 20th century, at which point I suppose they vanished without a trace. Strange how the British didn't mention meeting the white ruling class of India, isn't it?
what's the white obsession about associating themselves with shitskin history?
>>18520972That's not even what Indians are mad about. They call it "we wuzzing" and "stealing history" when you say Proto-Indo-Europeans and Proto-Indo-Iranians existed and they were European, not Indian. They are mad that Sanskrit is an Indo-European language and not autochthonous. They are delusional enough to believe the "Out of India" conspiracy theory has evidence supporting it.There are forums you can go to of you want a Hindu nationalist hugbox where nobody discusses real history.
>>18519213>how did this ancient super-Aryan civilization collapse?the same reason every civilization collapses, when the light people who make civilization race mix with the dark skinned then they become brown and civilization fails
>>18521008the golden age of india is considered the 6th century.why wasn't the aryan invasion the golden age?
>>18520984>and they were European, not Indian.If they were from India then they were INDIAN.You can't be european and indian.You have to own it. If you are native to india with a civilization established in india then you are indian.Its not indo-european, europe had nothing to do with it
>>18521309Do you even understand what I'm saying?Proto-Indo-Europeans and Proto-Indo-Iranians were not FROM India.Proto-Indo-Iranians are not Vedic Indians.Vedic Indians descend from Proto-Indo-Iranians and native Indians.Proto-Indo-Iranians were Europeans genetically, and their descendants eventually mixed with native Indians and Iranians over an unclear timeline.
Jeets are going through an existential crisis about this stuff since it's a Harvard paleogenomics lab, the Reich lab, that has confirmed that the culture ancestral to the Indo-Aryans is Corded Ware, which was indeed centered around Germany, South Sweden, Denmark, and the North Netherlands.Literally the most absurd feverish fantasies of 19th century Nordicists about the Beech line and the Salmon Argument came true. And there's nothing Jeets can do about it since their understanding of American society is that Harvard is like the holiest of holy Brahmin temples, the American Delphi.Reich is a descendant of Holocaust survivors so of course his papers fixate on CLV and Yamnaya to try to shift the focus away from Corded Ware, but Yamnaya is only relevant as the patrilineal ancestor to Corded Ware. Mycenean Greeks and Hittites were less than one tenth Yamnaya. Tocharian is dead. Corded Ware is the real vector for Indo-European spread.
>>18521488I want to say they used to be fascinated with Indo-European mythology and stuff but it became too real after the genetics papers started being published. Now they get really butthurt over comparisons between India and Europe.
>>18521488Yamnaya and Corded ware are separated by 200-300 years of migration.Yamnaya migrated around 3300-3200 bc and corded ware movements happened around 2950 bc at the earliest.Two different tribes. Two different haplogroups.
>>18521846Corded Ware DNA is 80% Yamnaya you fucking mong. Yamnaya is ancestral to Corded Ware, how could you not figure that out from the dates you gave yourself? I shouldn't have to elaborate any further than that, but I will. There are a few R1a Yamnaya samples, they're just rarer than R1b. I1 is the key Germanic haplogroup, does that mean Proto-Germanics weren't descended from Corded Ware? No, it just means a dude who was 5% WHG and 95% CW ended up being king of the Proto-Germanics at one point and his seed was the one that propagated.Yamnaya itself only gave birth to Tocharian, Greek, and Armenian. Corded Ware, along with Bell Beaker, is ancestral to every other non-Anatolian IE language, it is THE vector for IE spread. And it's pretty silly to distinguish CW and BB at this point. It's funny how archaeologists repeat "pots aren't people" until it becomes inconvenient for them, because uniting BB and CW would make the truth even more embarassingly nordicist. Literally the same steppe DNA in CW and BB outside Spain, just different potsCorded Ware -> Fatyanovo -> Sintashta -> Indo Aryan
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>>18517103it's the exact same thing from two different perspectives.
>>18519156make up your mind: migration or immigration?
>>18519063Not really, do /pol/ tards understand metaphors?
>>18519121>>18515590>>18515689Sure they were lighter skinned than modern day Indians, but not the "blonde haired nordics" that you /pol/tards suggest. They just weren't, keep bleeding your clitty out of rage. They most likely resembled something closer to picrel.The entire reason all modern day Europoos don't have blonde hair and blue eyes is because of the steppe invasion and aryan bvlls breeding with your women. Get over it, Europoos and Jeets are both rape babies of the steppe bvlls. You both will never be aryan. Keep fighting for daddy's attention.
>>18522288>>18522288The culture ancestral to the Indo-Aryans was Corded Ware or Battle Axe, which was centered in Northern Europe: Germany, South Sweden, Denmark, and Northern Netherlands. Yamnaya was ancestral to Corded Ware but it wasn't like Yamnaya spread to both Europe and India. Corded Ware conquered Yamnaya in the mid 3rd millennium. It was Corded Ware that spread to the Hindu Kush through the Fatyanovo, Andronovo, and Sintashta archaeological complexes.Northern Europeans can make the statement that their genetic ancestors, who lived in the same place they currently do now, left their homeland, conquered the steppe, and carried out the Indo-Aryan invasion. Indians may be R1a but they cannot make the specific claim. Note this is all comes from in peer-reviewed genomics papers, not nordicist fantasies about the beech line and salmon argumentAs for phenotypes, which no one really cares about, around 1/3rd of Fatyanovo individuals had blue eyes and/or blonde hair.
>>18522288>Sure they were lighter skinned than modern day Indians, but not the "blonde haired nordics" that you /pol/tards suggest.Who was?If you're talking about Proto-Indo-Iranians, this is factually incorrect. We have genetic samples of them now. Amateurs are able to calculate their phenotypes with this data. It's all public knowledge.They had light hair and eyes at a high frequency.If you're talking about descendants of Proto-Indo-Iranians, the timeline for them turning brown is unclear.
>>18522319>timeline for them turning brown is unclear.Not really, it's here in the 2019 Nick Patterson paper. I'm too lazy to look up the names of these archaeological complexes (I hate how they make you learn all these irrelevant village names), but you can see the 1700BC the Central Asian archaeological complexes are still >50% steppe, and then in 1000BC it's shrunk to less than a quarter. I know the fair features were picked up in Europe, when Yamnaya mated with EEF+WHG to make Corded Ware (a fact that this graph tries to hide lol), and not on the steppe, but I think we can safely use the steppe percentage as a proxy
>>18522334I'm sure we can get a vague idea or general outline but Niraj Rai has muddied the waters for the Indo-Aryan situation. He has shown Indian archaeogenetics is not trustworthy by tacitly admitting he was withholding samples from publication. Hence why I say it's unclear.I expected Indo-Aryans to have a lot of non-European ancestry at an early stage, but I don't know now because of how extremely politically sensitive this topic is in Indian academia.
>>18522347He'd only hold back samples if he was worried they'd have too much steppe. We know from the Reich labs papers on the Greeks (which are complete bullshit, they didn't sample the shaft grave princes) that you only need 1/10th steppe ancestry to develop a full bodied IE culture, with tripartite society and koryos.But here he's willing to publish samples that are 50-25% steppe at the time of the composition of the Rigveda and Avestans. Surely that's enough in comparison to the Greek case, do you suspect it should be even higher?
>>18522358>you only need 1/10th steppe ancestry to develop a full bodied IE culture,Sure. I'm not even skeptical that low steppe people can cause this sort of cultural transfer.>do you suspect it should be even higher?It could be. We just don't know because Niraj Rai acts so suspicious.Am I showing you a scandal you don't already know about?
>>18522367I had no idea about this too. I guarantee you they did something similar with the Greek samples
