Matthew 5:17.Ephesians 2:15.How do Christians justify these two verses with eachother?
>>18517832Why would God enter that temple if it is the statue who's being honored? Will Even the sun bows down to God and in his presence cannot be seen, where does God go where he's not exclusively honored? Where will he stand? At the right hand of Paul? Or at the left? Or maybe on top of him? Glory is not a thing you divide among a list of honored ones, it is given completely to God. God created all the heavens and the earth and all that are in them in 6 days, who could be honored alongside him? When God stands everyone trembles and bows in awe before him. When he speaks everyone is completely terrified. His voice is louder than the loudest thunder. Like a continual disturbance of thunder endlessly sounding in the skies, shattering every window and terrifying all who are alive. A deer gives birth in terror at the sound of his voice. The forest shakes, the birds fly away and all the animals flee. And everyone's heart sins to the bottom of their feet. Everyone and everything is completely outshined by him. All honor forever is always for him. A temple is not of God unless it bares exclusively his name and is dedicated exclusively to him.
>>18518028This has nothing to do with the OP, fucking retard.
>>18517832>“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.">"by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace,"He did not abolish any law nor any prophet. He created a new humanity with the current commands and regulations on his flesh to achieve peace for the new humanity, the old humanity still swings under the not abolished laws and prophets jazz.
>>18517832The former is referring especially to the scriptures themselves, which among the Jews was categorized into three groups, the law, the prophets, and the writings. Insofar as it is to be applied to the law as a body of commandments (and not a group of scriptures) it refers especially to the moral law of God, which Jesus Christ fulfilled and kept perfectly on behalf of all the elect. The latter is talking about Jewish ceremonies of the old covenant, such as circumcision, or abstinence from pork, by which they were distinguished from the nations around them. This is plain from the context.
>>18517832>Matthew 5:17Makes a lot more sense when you read it along with 5:18.>Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Jesus says that nothing will pass from the law until it is fulfilled, but Jesus also says that he is going to fulfill the law, meaning that those things will then pass from the law. The distinction between "abolishing" and "fulfilling" the law is not one of outcome but rather of justification. Jesus is saying that the old law is coming to an end, but not because he's rejecting the law as false, but rather because his arrival concludes the covenant between the Jews and God, like a contract that binds its parties until its terms are fulfilled, at which point it validly concludes.
>>18518071Nothing makes a Christian angrier than the idea of having to obey the God they claim to worship. The only reason they love Paul is because he told them they didn't have to obey God to serve him.Which is ridiculous, imagine having a servant who does nothing you say.
>>18518110>ignoring the correct answers so you can seethe at your own delusions instead
>>18518118>We love God!!!!!So let's obey him >How dare you? Jesus was murdered so we didn't have to. Jesus saved us from God. He freed us from his rules. We are lawless.
>>18518071Well said, and completely correct.
>>18518059>He did not abolish any lawIf that were true, Christians would still follow the mosaic law. “Fulfilling the law” is just a convoluted way of saying you discarded it. The Torah states several times that the law is ETERNAL and would never go away…
>>18518275Like jews, "christians" read the bible and created different factions on what the bible said the way mussies also handle the quran >The 3 books (2 if we consider the Torah nature as the old testament) said to not start wars in the name of god, god does not mandate the shepard to poison the his sheep's mind to kill each>One is killing because le sacred scriptures le told them a piece of land is a gift from god>One is killing because the other one said he is not the descendant to keep the women on leash>One started global homicides accross the global under the name of the monarchyNot the bible fault christians are retards because humans are retarded
>>18517832Jesus did not abolish the Law by declaring it false or worthless.Jesus fulfilled the Law by accomplishing its purpose.Because the Law has been fulfilled in Christ, believers are no longer under many of its covenantal and ceremonial requirements.Thus Paul can say that Christ "abolished" the Law's role as a dividing covenantal system while Jesus can say He did not come to abolish it in the sense of rejecting or invalidating God's revelation.
>>18518118Standard practice for the 5 autists on this board perpetually seething about Christianity.
>>18517832No one was ever saved by the Law.No one was ever saved by good works.The teaching of the Pharisees (and 99% of all religion, generally) is that one must do good works to be saved. They didn't get it. The Law of works is still "holy and good" either way. Additionally, Christ "fulfils" the Law by being without sin. Because "sin is transgression of the Law"
>>18517832NOT CONTRADICTORY.THE CHRIST FULFILLED THE LAW OF THE PROPHETS, WHICH IS THE LAW OF MOSES; THE CHRIST, ALSO, ABOLISHED THE LAWS OF THE MOSAIC PRIESTS, WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAW OF MOSES.LATER, IN THE MIDDLE AGES, JUDAISM WAS FOUNDED ON THESE PRIESTLY LAWS THAT THE CHRIST ABOLISHED.
>>18518734Genesis 26:5I will bless you because Abraham obeyed me and completed the duties, commands, laws, and instructions I gave him.”
>>18517832The law creates hostility between those under it and those not. Those under it look to an earthly high priest. Like those 9 lepers who Jesus healed and they didn’t really believe Jesus healed them. They had to follow Jesus’ instructions and go back to their earthly high priest and ask him to double check Jesus, the Savior’s healing miracle, to make sure he really did heal them. Whereas the tenth leper, the one who really believed Jesus healed him instantly, was actually healed and actually was. He was instantly healed. Meaning he didn’t feel the need to live under the law. He was free.In today’s age, the law is the Babel/Babylonia pagan worshipers that still practice and follow a universal god, and the Jews and Catholics fighting with great hostility the Protestants who don’t have to follow their gentilism and Judaism. Real Christians aren’t Protestants, they already converted from the work of Christ on the cross, to the new true one man, from the divided (Twain, if you used the kjv, the true Holy Word), man of gentile and Jew, and believing it was instant and already received, just as Jesus taught us to pray in Mark and in Matthew “pray believing it is already received”, and prayer is believing and we are supposed to believe and live as though everything we believe is already so for others around us and for ourself. The “you” you want to be and the loved ones you want to have around you are supposed to be treated “as you want to be treated “ that was the golden rule, remember?The OP helps by redirecting and recorrecting everyone back to this foundational truth of Christ’s precious blood he shed on the cross.Though the world is blinded to everyone else’s spiritual truths, some being because of their lack of faith or under the law, others being spiritual meaning that the spiritual has precedence over reality, and the spiritual man is supposed to take more Physical Substance (remember? Faith is the substance of things)
(Hoped for), meaning it has actual Physical Form, Weight, and Manifestation in Reality. But those who live in reality only are blind.I began to believe in God’s Word and have faith in my wife who promised to marry me. Now I have and experience real things happening in waking life, and in my dreams, dreams of her actually physically touching me that I have never experienced in dreams before. Her actually physically touching me and holding me. Her physical body’s warmth. Her love and sympathy. As doctors will tell you, they warn about really believing things, as it can lead to it becoming real for you. In the case of hallucinations or delusions, those are instances when someone is having health issues. But when something is about believing the truth, following and worshiping God, and following your heart and your dreams, and promises made, this is very different and within the realm of Heaven. We are now talking about changing reality to the things of the Spirit. And when this is done without God, the Word of God the kjv Bible calls it Witchcraft because witchcraft is real and can actually summon satan’s power and demons to create lying supernatural powers and spirits. Which you don’t want if you are a good pure hearted person. And the Bible calls it falling short of you go to God through any other Savior but Jesus Christ. You will always “fall short” with your works and beliefs. The necessary thing is to believe in Jesus Christ’s name as your Lord and Savior. Believe on his blood he shed for you. And follow His Word (harder to do to read the whole Bible, and live it, but the main thing is to start, and keep going till you die, like he did for you).
If unbelievers had anything to complain about, we’d have immortal bodies, have our own tree of life in our backyard that has twelve fruits for each month, and have the bodies we wished we could have and the lives we wished we could have that are also God’s Will in alignment for us.But we don’t. We instead have unbelievers who actually complain even though conditions get worse in civilization , having fallen far below what standards we had in Christian America.You know that that tree is real. But even Satan while Man and Woman were in the garden of Eden, was like, “hath God said?” = “yeah right man! There ain’t no God who watered this tree of life thing after creating it different from every other tree! Eat of this tree of knowledge of good and evil even though God said not to. Btw He isn’t real. You won’t really die!”They didn’t physically die right away, they instead instantly died in their spirit of what and who they were. This eventually led to their physical bodily death. But it is a reference to their soul dying in hell as well, except by grace through faith in Jesus’ blood that would eventually save them for what they did, in bringing all of humanity to the sinful existence we now know in reality.But not in Heaven.
A woman is given two main only choices in this life from God, from the Bible. Whether to obey the gospel, and be faithful to her husband, or to worship death and hell and sin that we are already doing without need for the Bible’s interference. Unbelievers claim you can still practice charity and love without God, but this is inherently untrue. The World promotes sex and sin and so the old are to be disposed of as quick as possible while the young want all of the power and strength either to have kids or to be selfish. But having children , not teaching them to believe in freedom and God.Jesus Christ framed it as like witnessing. Going around the earth and asking people if they would follow him, is the same as what Isaac asked his servant to do and go around and ask women to marry Isaac even if they’ve never seen him before, if she was trusting enough to marry him, then she was the right one.But Satan created a monster out of that doctrine with the Roman Catholic Church and all of its harlot churches. Now it created women that say they will but never do. Created lies. People who say Lord Lord, but their hearts are far from him. A gap between the husband and a wife that cannot be traversed.Only Christ Jesus inside of someone can truly make that person traverse that gap. To stay faithful. A “prudent wife is of the Lord.” This means a wife can Only come from the Lord. If it isn’t of the Lord, then that means 99% of people are with women they think is their wife and she is not. Like if Eve had endured seeing enough sin in the world to decide she doesn’t believe that being the mother of all humanity is important anymore and to simply leave Adam and be with anyone she wants. Which is what Satan truly was after the day she was beguiled into eating the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. Thank God for Jesus Christ for my true and faithful wife who kept her promises.
Matthew 27:3-10 NRSVUE>3 When Judas, his betrayer, saw that Jesus was condemned, he repented and brought back the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. >4 He said, “I have sinned by betraying innocent[b] blood.” But they said, “What is that to us? See to it yourself.” >5 Throwing down the pieces of silver in the temple, he departed, and he went and hanged himself. >6 But the chief priests, taking the pieces of silver, said, “It is not lawful to put them into the treasury, since they are blood money.” >7 After conferring together, they used them to buy the potter’s field as a place to bury foreigners. >8 For this reason that field has been called the Field of Blood to this day. >9 Then was fulfilled what had been spoken through the prophet Jeremiah, “And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of the one on whom a price had been set, on whom some of the people of Israel had set a price, >10 and they gave them for the potter’s field, as the Lord commanded me.”Acts 1:16-19 NRSVUE>16 Brothers and sisters, the scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit through David foretold concerning Judas, who became a guide for those who arrested Jesus, >17 for he was numbered among us and was allotted his share in this ministry.” >18 (Now this man acquired a field with the reward of his wickedness, and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle, and all his bowels gushed out. >19 This became known to all the residents of Jerusalem, so that the field was called in their language Hakeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)How did Judas die: hanging or falling headlong? Who bought the field: Judas or the priests? When did was the land bought: before or after Judas' death? Why was it called the Field of Blood: because Judas died there or because it was bought with blood money?
>>18518110All are irredeemable under the law. The radical forgiveness in the sacrifice of Christ is a more interesting and satisfying message than cutting your dick skin off and shaking an etrog every year, etc.
>>18517832>Matthew 5:17."Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.">Ephesians 2:15."Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"Abolishing isn't the same as destroying. It's closer to fulfilling. See the following:>Colossians 2:16-17"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."
>>18519564Whore.
>>18519572>Abolishing isn't the same as destroying.It absolutely is, that is exactly what the word means you fucking idiot.>"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:Yes Paulanity doesn't care about the law everyone knows this, which is why he goes against the actual disciples of Jesus who were all Judaizers. Funny you should mention meat there though because they all accepted that you cannot eat meat sacrificed to idols only Paul disagreed. But all of this is tangential and it isn't what OP is talking about. You have a direct contradiction here that cannot be reconciled
>>18520046The Matthew 5:17-18 issue is easily solved just by including 5:19-20 but it's suspiciously always left out when this verse is quoted.
