If you believe your God:>Cares about the Jews specifically more than anyone else in the entire universe>Will send people to be tortured in hell forever for kissing the wrong gender>Made weird autistic rules about not mixing fabrics and eating shellfish>Used to appear in the form of a burning bush to talk to people but has been hiding for the past 2000 years>Genocided the entire world in a flood, and that's a good thing>Dinosaurs never existed and the universe is 5000 years old o algo Then really you should be considered psychotic and locked away in a secure psychiatric unit for life with no hope of leaving.You are clearly extremely deranged - and a threat to civilisation, basic human decency, and intelligence.Instead... Such people currently run the US government :/What do you think about this anons? Can you justify such beliefs without just seething raging, and/or masturbating over imagining people suffering in hell? Without just saying "but muh Bible!"?
>>18518120There have been many like you and they are no more.
>>18518133Abrahamics really are the katana wielding, fedora wearing neckbeards these days aren't they?What are you gonna do huh?
maybe god had a plan for the indo-european charioteers from the north
>>18518148>What are you gonna do huh?I'll just wait.
>>18518168You can't actually debunk the OP though can you? You just have to sit in your cuck chair fantasizing about your enemies (ie anyone smarter than you) dying
>>18518183You think the Almighty is a dunce. You're your own worse enemy. Heh.
>>18518190I think Yahweh is a fiction character that schizophrenics and psychopaths use to justify their own violence and hatred
>>18518200AKA You think the Almighty is a dunce.
>>18518120"I don't understand the Bible," the thread.
>>18518232I don't think he has any attributes because he isn't real and I have no reason to attach attributes to fictional entities.>>18518253And yet you're unable to debunk any of the points made.
>>18518273Yet you obsessively try to make him look like a dunce.
>>18518285No, I point out that those who believe he's real are.
>>18518288Doesn't look like it.
>>18518120>>Will send people to be tortured in hell forever for kissing the wrong genderif you believe life is sacred and reproduction is too by proxy then this is not so far fetched
>>18518325That's a you problem >>18518331If you live only to breed and see anyone not doing likewise as deserving of death and torture then frankly you aren't a human.Lesser developed animals are driven in large part by their primal mating urges, without higher purpose.What does it make you if you utilise violence to force others to live just to breed? It makes you a cancer that grows without limits to the extent of harming itself in the process.
>>18518381Why is it so important for you to fight for the right of women to lick each others vaginas? And why do you think a holy and righteous God should approve of it? Why is it a great injustice and cosmic tyranny to you that God is opposed to women licking each other's vaginas. Because women are allowed to love each other and have loved each other since the beginning of time. It's not about love to you, it's about lust. You think you are virtuous above God because you fight to allow women to lick each others vaginas.
>>18518381>If you live only to breed and see anyone not doing likewise as deserving of death and torture then frankly you aren't a human.>Lesser developed animals are driven in large part by their primal mating urges, without higher purpose.>What does it make you if you utilise violence to force others to live just to breed?>It makes you a cancer that grows without limits to the extent of harming itself in the process.nothing of this addresses the notion of life being sacred, which is understandable because you don't consider it sacred and that puts you on a very slippery slope. you already lost.
>>18518273>And yet you're unable to debunk any of the points madeAll of the "points" are based on misinterpretations.
>>18518120Christians, jews, and muslims are going to be locked in cages by artificially intelligent machines and their made up god isn't going to save them (because he doesn't exist). Even the pope sees that this is coming and wrote an entire cope treatise about AI because he secretly knows God isn't real and the coming AI is going to render the entire Abrahamic framework completely indefensible.
>>18518590AI is going to render the entire Abrahamic framework completely indefensible.it is already indefensible for any reasonable person with enough critical thinking skills, what ai can change?
>What do you think about this anons?That the US doomed itself by giving the confederates amnesty instead of publicly executing each and every last one of them and that it's too late to do anything about it as two whole generations of ameritards have now grown up thinking that creationism isn't one of the most mentally insane things possible to believe. It's not too late to save EVROPA from following the same fate yet, but the final solution to the christcuck question must come hastily.
>>18518331>infinite punishment for finite crime
>>18518120The weak fear the Chariot.
>>18518442>Why is it so important for you to fight for the right of women to lick each others vaginas?I believe in freedom. Do you believe people should be punished by the state for doing something gross without violating the Golden Rule? Legislation is always the final objective of moralizing, religious or otherwise.
>>18521043>Do you believe people should be punished by the state for doing something gross without violating the Golden Rule?I believe necrophiliacs and horsefuckers should be jailed, yes.
>>18519364horses, not goats, you dumbfuck
>>18518120Is there a single way to believe in god that excludes the possibility of believing in absolute nonsense like a flying spaghetti monster, or exclude that absolute goodness could be raping and killing infants everyday and that it is the only way to heaven?
>>18521043Should people be allowed to sell poop st the coffee shop and eat it too?
>is that shirt made of two different materialsLol.
>>18518545>>18518331homosexuals can still sexually reproduce
>>18518549how do you tell if something is correctly or incorrectly interpreted?In science we have a tool it's called experimentation and replication
>>18518120>justify such beliefsIts designed that way so that you can tell who is bullshitting. If you actually research the allegory, and can logically follow what it all means. You can also weed out lazy thinkers who just give up and get mad about it.
>>18521239Sciences a blue print to build a house Spirituality is the desire to build it.The Bible is not an instruction manual, or a log book of materials. The Bible is a book about our world of perceptions. The heart, the experiance. The spirit.Knowledge is a tool.Your life is the agent that decides how to use the tool.
>>18521239>how do you tell if something is correctly or incorrectly interpreted?You know by tasting the fruit.
>>18518763With AI, the opposite is actually happening. People are starting to correctly interprete what it says.
>>18521443Correctly interpreting it renders it even less defensible.
>>18518549>misinterpretationsSo what's the correct interpretation of this bible verse?>And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
>>18521415Like this?
>>18518120>>18521464Bible will be full of verses talking about how the whole world of the gentiles shall serve the god of israel and be the footstool of the jews and chriggers will still say "you're just misinterpreting it you're not enlightened like I am", they don't have any counter-argument they're too retarded for that.
>>18518120Those are not Christian beliefs. Those are beliefs antichrists implies that are Christian beliefs.
>>18518133>There have been many like you and they are no more.
>>18522471I'm not awesome, my God is.
>>18522498Your God isn't real
>>18522503Ye is, I already got my proof that he is. And he's awesome.
>>18522513>I already got my proof that he isAnd what was that?
>>18522513He's not real buddy.
>>18522513Blessed be. Got mine, too.
>>18522519And what was that?
>>18522527Miraculous intervention, answered prayers, divine visitation, and visions. A testimony which would be wasted on you.
>>18522538So you had a mental breakdown and started hallucinating lol.
>>18522538Yea, your schizophrenic hallucinations aren't arguments.>would be wasted on youThis is also false, but it's something you spiritually blind retarded morons need to tell yourselves because it's the only way to justify to the idea that your hallucinations are divinely inspired.
>>18522544>>18522557>Actively proves it would be wasted on you.Ya know, there was an interview Richard Dawkins did with BBC Radio 4 back in 2010 where he was asked what it would take to convince him there was a God. He said, "I would need to Him to appear to me Himself." And the interviewer wisely said, "But you just claimed all those who said they had been visited must have just been hallucinating, wouldn't you just think, you, yourself were hallucinating?" To which Dawkins said, "Yeah, I would." There's no evidence that would convince people like you, but I do commend you both for being consistent with the atheistic "giants" you parrot. That's something, however small, you can have. A claim to complete orthodoxy in your group.
>>18522575>There's no evidence that would convince people like youSorry, I'm going to take that away from you. If all birds in the world simultaneously started singing "Jesus is lord" on Good Friday at 3pm Jerusalem time and stopped on Easter Sunday, I would convert.Thanks for playing, sorry again that you had to lose like this.
>>18522584>Sorry, I'm going to take that away from you. If all birds in the world simultaneously started singing "Jesus is lord" on Good Friday at 3pm Jerusalem time and stopped on Easter Sunday, I would convert.No, you wouldn't. You'd assume you had a mental break. That's what you already assume of people who have had experiences sufficient to convince them, isn't it? Why should you be excepted from your own logic?
>>18522588>You'd assume you had a mental break.No, I wouldn't. I'd have supplementary evidence consisting of professional news coverage as well as amateur livestreaming during the event, millions of recordings, and the testimony of every single person who lived through it and saw at least one bird during the three day period.You don't have that, you just had a mental breakdown lol.
>>18522588>No, you wouldn't.I'm not that anon, but I would convert as well if such a thing happened.
>>18522595>You don't have that, you just had a mental breakdown lol.What did I experience, anon?
>>18522603A mental breakdown.
>>18522608Prove it with specificity.
>>18522609Prove the opposite.
>>18522615You lose. Failed to support your accusation.
>>18522618So your position is that you can't prove you were visited by a flying zombie rebbe but you don't think the opposite can be proven either so you choose to go with the rebbe thing, gotcha.My view has the distinct advantage in that people having mental breakdowns and hallucinating is a common occurrence lol.
>>18522626Bodied that freak
>>18522595So testimony is sufficient evidence? Or do we specifically need recorded testimony?
>>18522785>>18522626Post screenshot, samefag
>>18518120>>Will send people to be tortured in hell forever for kissing the wrong genderYou're gay lol
>>18518120>Instead... Such people currently run the US government :/Trump isn't a Christian (and this is a good thing)
>>18518120I don't understand this image
>>18524348It's a reference to Judges 1:19, where the so-called "all powerful" God is for some reason stopped by Chariots
>>18522821Are you stupid or just being disingenuous? I list several different but specific lines of evidence for a specific miracle.How on earth would you conclude from this that I'm making sweeping claims about the universal validity of every specimen within large categories such a "testimonial evidence" or "recorded testimony"?
>>18518120>>Will send people to be tortured in hell forever for kissing the wrong genderFaggots are gross
>>18518120>You are clearly extremely wrongthinked - and a threat to idealogically correct nonsense
>>18524354Is picture evidence not a record?
>>18518120You forgot to mention cutting off part of your penis
>>18524365Reading comprehension seems to be in short supply these days. Try again!>I list several different but specific lines of evidence for a specific miracle.How on earth would you conclude from this that I'm making sweeping claims about the universal validity of every specimen within large categories such a "testimonial evidence" or "recorded testimony"?
>>18524387"evidence consisting of professional news coverage as well as amateur livestreaming during the event, millions of recordings, and the testimony of every single person who lived through it and saw at least one bird during the three day period."Recodings are records, newscoverage and livestreamimg are testimonial evidence, testimonial evidence is testimonial evidence. Do you disagree with that?
>>18524361I didn't ask, but I fully agree with OP
>>18524403Are you actually genuinely sub-80IQ? The fact that a specific kind of testimonial evidence makes up a part of the overall evidentiary support that would be sufficient for me in this specific instance does not mean that anything that falls under the label of "testimonial evidence" is sufficient to convince me of any random claim.Fucking hell, christians on this site never fail to disappoint me.
>>18518120Lol.
>>18524360>Will send people to be tortured in hell forever for kissing the wrong genderThey send themselves there by choosing that lifestyle. God won't force you to be with Him if you don't want to be. He is the source of all good things. Ergo, if you choose to sin and separate yourself from Him, you lose access to all good things and exist in a place that sucks, entirely by your own choice.Very telling that antichrists have to twist things so much to make God seem bad.
>>18524684Do you watch porn?
>>18524684Souls don't exist, cupcake. Are you actually retarded?
>>18524692I used to before I was saved.>>18524696Yes, they do.
>>18524714>Yes, they do.No, they don't. They outright can't, it is logically impossible.
>>18524718They do. They can. It isn't.
>>18524684Anyone posting on 4chan is already a degenerate by definition. So at best you're a hypocritical retard who'll also go to hell. But I suspect you don't even "actually" believe in God, as most godtards don't.
>>18524719They don't. They literally can't, as it would imply a contradiction.
>>18524721Wrong.
>>18524723They do. They can. No, it wouldn't.
>>18524725>No, it wouldn't.Yes, it literally does. The interaction problem is well understood.
>>18524728It doesn't. The interaction problem is invalid because the soul is transcendental of the 3D universe.
>>18524734It literally does, the interaction problem has nothing to do with dimensions. You can have an infinite amount of dimensions and it wouldn't bridge the gap.
>>18524741Not true. Transcendental thinking resolves this as it allows for material interaction between objects existing in higher and lower dimensions.
>>18524749>Transcendental thinking resolves thisNo, it doesn't.> it allows for material interaction between objects existing in higher and lower dimensions.The interaction problem is precisely countering this claim about different dimensional things interacting. You don't know what the argument is.
>>18524757It does. The argument is resolved. The scientific world has dozens of frameworks that allow for interaction at higher and lower dimensions. Kaluza-Klein, String Theory, M-Theory, Randall-Sundrum Brane-World framework, Dimensional Reduction just to name a few. You're stopping at the first 17th century philosophical confirmation that you can find that denies the framework because you're an intellectual coward. You have neither the Intellect nor Wisdom to argue this. You lose.
>>18524771>It does. The argument is resolved. The scientific world has dozens of frameworks that allow for interaction at higher and lower dimensions. Kaluza-Klein, String Theory, M-Theory, Randall-Sundrum Brane-World framework, Dimensional Reduction just to name a few.None of them are super-natural, and they do not have anything to do with the interaction problem.>You're stopping at the first 17th century philosophical confirmation that you can find that denies the framework because you're an intellectual coward.I'm doing no such thing. You're listing off a bunch of monistic ontologies and then claiming a dualism because you don't know what you're talking about.> You have neither the Intellect nor Wisdom to argue this. You lose.You straight up don't know what a single one of those things youre referencing are. Stop being a fucking retard.
>>18518120This! By the Flying Spaghetti Monster so much this!Edit: Thanks for the gold kind strangerEdit 2: 327 upvotes for this? Haha wow that's the most I've ever gotten, thanks guys and gals and everything in between!Edit 3: WTF 600 upvotes wow thank you all so much this is the best birthday everEdit 4: Thanks for all the birthday wishes fellow r/wooooshers. I tippeth mine hat to thee on this pleasant morrow.Edit 5: Ok, so this went viral overnight for some reason O_o 2000 motherflipping upboats I really have no words thank you all so much it means a lot!Edit 6: ok I'm noticing some toxic discussion happening in this reply chain and I feel the need to address it. Sexism and racism are not cool guys, so please cool it and continue the good vibes please and thank you!Edit 7: ok so I don't know why but I've received a lot of downvotes on this post recently, maybe i got raided by 4chan.com/b?? (commonly referred to as the "asshole of the internet" for those who aren't aware). I don't really ask for much but I was hoping we could show those losers a thing or two, so please give this post an upvote if you haven't already, it would mean the world to me and show these bullies you cannot mess with a good person.Edit 8: turns out my girlfriend cheated on me, so that happened :/
>>18524959>you're reddit>image of fat guy with a fedoraLiterally all christfags have at this point
>>18525066I mean it's not even original or good so they don't even really have that either.Apologetics lost
>>18522575Okay here is what it takes for me>God shows up in Jerusalem>giant flaming pillar>filmed by thousands of smartphone cameras and live streamed>proclaims his newest update to scripture>confirms scripture is actually true and not just man-made nonsense>before he disappears again for a few thousand years he turns the moon purple
