explain why I should support marxism
you're gay. stay with capitalism
>>18521181It is the only system which has had any success in making people atheist (see USSR, China, NK).
>>18521199why is that something I should care about?It isn't even that accurate since religion was still widely practiced in the USSR to the point there were reforms to allow religious freedomAnd communism did not have even a dent in the muslim population in Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia
>>18521199amoral totalitarian shitholes that turns everyone into slaves. Faggots who believe in this shit nowadays are rich nepo kids like Marx who don't understand what working hard and economics are
>>18521199Third world shitholes for bug people slaves? Not a compelling argument.Seriously, North Korea pimps out its people as slave labor to places like Saudi Arabia and Russia. By its own stated foundational causes communism is dog shit
>>18521199Because they are dystopian hellholes that want citizens to think there is no one greater than the leader
>>18521199>by killing people that believed in GodFtfy
Becoming komuna is the best way to confess your love for humanity
>>18521601Wrong, that's becoming a Confucian
>>18521601>showing your love for humanity by supporting an oppressive authoritarian ideology
>>18521181Because it is the most honest form of political ideology.
>>18521686Youre such a faggot
>>18521181To get a comfy bureocrat job where you do nothing all day and extract money from subhuman proles you pretend to care about. Maybe you can meet up with a hooker or 2 after hours as well! You do have an influential friend to get you a comfy state bureocrat job right anon?
>>18521199but the most atheist places in the world are European countries
>>18521264>>18521303>slavesFollowing any Abrahamic religion, i.e. Christianity, turns you into a slave of God. Heaven for instance is a massive prison where all anyone does is pray to the cosmic dictator.
>>18521856>im a slave bc my mom made me go to church on sundays as a kid instead of letting me sit in my room watching anime all day!Thats great anon, it really is, but North Korea literally rents out its civilians as slave labor to middle eastern countries. So much for the "workers" republic lol
>>18521907>im a slave bc my mom made me go to church on sundays as a kid instead of letting me sit in my room watching anime all day!No one said that nor is in inferred from any text, you are hallucinating.
>>18521910>DUDE GOD IS A DICTATOR AND HEAVEN IS A PRISON!>MY YOUTH PASTOR MADE ME FEEL BAD FOR JERKING OFF TO FURRY PORN SO FUCK ALL CHRISTIANS!When you says shit like this it outs you as an insufferable weird faggot.
>>18521916>MY YOUTH PASTOR MADE ME FEEL BAD FOR JERKING OFF TO FURRY PORN SO FUCK ALL CHRISTIANS!No one said this, you are hallucinating.
>>18521918Youre so autistic and retarded you cant understand when someone is mocking you lol
>>18521907Nobody mentioned Church. I can make the same strawman argument for the brainwashing centers they have in North Korea. Have you not read the Bible? Christians for instance are objectively all slaves of God. Jesus is the equivalent of Kim Il-sung, the originator of the cult.>>18521916>insufferable weird faggotThat would be the one who brought up "FURRY PORN" out of nowhere, despite it not being mentioned by anyone.>>18521910It's some sort of third world specimen, it has a poor grasp of English.
>thread about communism>spastic retards make it about christianityI hate you niggas so much it's unreal
>>18521199they produce underground churches where people are passionately devout.biggest atheist factory is capitalism and liberalism because they erode the sacred.If communism treats religion as an enemy, it gives it power, it gives outlawry and renegade status.whereas liberalism just makes people not care about the sacred.
Are you a prole? If so, scientific socialism is the most effective way to improve your position in life and that of others in your class.If your money comes from owning a business you probably shouldn't though, it won't help you.
>>18522042>scientific socialism is the most effective way to improve your position in lifeCan you explain how?
>>18521181Do you work for a living?
>>18521181Even if you don't become a Marxist becoming class-pilled will change the way you view the world and help you identify the real reasons for why your life sucks
>>18522061yes>>18522064class exists under every communist regimeIf you really think any leader in the eastern bloc was working class then you are out of your fucking mind
>>18522064>muh classevery single leftist of any flavor is, without exception, obsessed with sexual, gender, and racial identity and openly hate straight, white, men as their boogeymen. In this paradigm, its pretty obvious that all this "class consciousness" talk is simply bullshit. It makes more sense when you realize "class" is the fakest and gayest pseudo identity, but it really doesnt help the communist when they cant help themselves and have to lash out on identity politics.
>>18522056Marx does a better job than I do of it desubut the tl;dr of it is that in liberal "democracy" the bourgeoisie uses their wealth to make the legal and political system favor them at your expense (the exact mechanisms differing from country to country), that only collective action from workers can fix this, and that Marxism contains within it an understanding of why various proto-socialist movements failed and a study of what workers need to do to win this time.
>>18522075>class exists under every communist regime>If you really think any leader in the eastern bloc was working class then you are out of your fucking mindThat doesn't refute what I said. Becoming aware of class and your relationship with it doesn't mean you're obliged to shill the Soviet Union.
>>18522078Most idpol pushers are liberals
>>18522097I am aware of class I'm aware of how shit poor people are treated and I don't view the rich or powerful as human>>18522081>the bourgeoisie uses their wealth to make the legal and political system favor them at your expenseLiterally every ruling communist party functioned like this just with taxes instead of "personal wealth">that only collective action from workers can fix thisevery communist revolution just lead to a state managed economy instead of worker-owned collectives "worker-owned means of production" is initially promoted at the start of a revolution but it never sees fruition
>>18522078That's a relatively modern thing and goes back to the historic left being crushed under a neoliberal tide. In the UK, this is called New Labour.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Labour>The party emphasised the importance of social justice, rather than equality, emphasising the need for equal opportunity and believed in the use of markets to deliver economic efficiency and social justice. >The New Labour brand was developed to regain trust from the electorate and to portray a departure from the party's traditional socialist policies, thereby communicating the party's modernisation to the public. However, it was criticised for its breaking of election promises and of loosening its links to the trade unions. You had guys only a few years prior to this that were openly calling for the nationalization of the biggest companies in the UK.The abandonment of socialism coincides everywhere with a huge uptick in pandering to non-class related identities because 'progress' on these fronts is largely reconcilable with capitalism. A woman from a rich family becoming CEO doesn't really challenge any systemic structure.
>>18522143The old labour party used to be so fucking awesome because they were anticapitalist and antisemitic
>>18522168Not just in the UK either. The Australian Labor Party were the ones pushing for the White Australia Policy.
