Where did the impression that Hitler is charismatic come from?I have tried watching some of his rallies, listened to some of his speeches with subtitles. He says deutschland a lot, and says a lot of milktoast nationalist stuff you would expect any self respecting politician to say.What am I missing?
>>18521670>What am I missing?The part of your brain that failed to develop after you were vaxxed and subsequently became autistic
>>18521670>What am I missing?I'm guessing you either don't speak German or you just watched the short clips that end up in documentaries, which don't really work outside of the context of the larger speech.
>SCRAGGLY KRAGGLYNot my idea of a silver tongued devil
>>18521785Not OP but I speak german and have seen a lot of his speeches and it while it doesnt seem impressive nowadays im sure it was pretty innovtive for politicians at the time, couple that with Goebells' masterful radio shows which were even more aggressive it was basically a recipe for sucess. Communists at the time also did overly accelerated and verbose speeches before Hitler though and that's also why they were so popular at the time, the nazis just did them at a grander scale and way more frequentlyHOWEVER I do think people overexagerate it. It's not like people magically fall over and change their views because someone speaks too loudly and it wasnt too uncommon for people, specially those with some form of higher education or aristocratic upbringing, to see Hitler as runty, prole like and unprofessional. The myth of "we were all just brainwashed by his big charisma we are so sowwwwwwy" is mostly just a way for germans to get away with what they had done after losing WW2 much like the "I was just following muh orders" meme, it's just bullshit meant to shift the blame from a large amount of people who openly collaborated with nazism but were too scared to man up and face punishment for it
>>18521670it's not just about his speeches. the vibe of the entire nation also had a lot to do with it. americans love trump and he's generally considered very charismatic despite being one of the worst public speakers to ever hold office.populist candidates are popular. news at 11.
>>18521670For example compare this speech by Hitler>>>/wsg/6166567 and this speech by FDR given around the same timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1_Dqz0I8MTo those who would rather read it:https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/address-for-navy-and-total-defense-dayIt could hardly be clearer that one guy is a mere rat politician born into aristocracy, and the other a world-historical heroic-tragic figure with ideals and a sense of history.
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>>18521670He was very charismatic, had tons of aura. But, he was nothing that when he was young. The soldier in WWI was uncharismatic. Then something happened. Hitler himself said he was possessed by a prehistoric Aryan spirit. Either way, somehow he snapped into the charismamaxxed orator we know today.
>>18521855>it doesnt seem impressive nowadayshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFcMlezAmuMCompare this to a speech by any modern politician, the oratory is better by orders of magnitude.
>>18521670Video takes away from the magic of public speeches. An integral part of the experience is being physically there.
>>18521931He figured out the jews?
>>18521855Nah, he was genuinely charismatic. >The myth of "we were all just brainwashed by his big charisma we are so sowwwwwwy"This isn't even a myth, people get mentally raped by high rizz individuals all the time, Trump can't form a coherent sentence yet he gathered a cult following because of his aura
It’s not really gonna be relatable to you given A) you probably don’t speak GermanB) his language sounds kind of archaic and long winded compared to what a lot of people would assume. Goebbels actually had the more direct hype speeches about war and shit. Hitler mainly spoke in vagueries because he was still trying to win power in his speeches C) the style of performance just changes over time. Same way a comedy of the time doesn’t hit the sameYou have to bear in mind this was the first time in people’s lives they’d have both heard a politician campaigning on radio and even through footage of him. It was transformative as propaganda. Literally inventing the modern use of the term. Closest thing since is the use of social media to aid campaigning.Interestingly I noticed in contemporary accounts of people who talk about how Hitler was charismatic, a lot of the time they don’t actually recall what he said, more how passionately he said it, literally like a performance that strained him to the point he was dripping with sweat.
>>18521670Just watch one of those AI dubbed videos of his speeches. He was pretty eloquent and witty. The people most non-germans have of him is him just screaming nonsense klingon sounding words into a shitty microphone.
>>18522242>peoplepicture*
>>18522230>Same way a comedy of the time doesn’t hit the same
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>>18521670>and says a lot of milktoast nationalist stuff you would expect any self respecting politician to sayand how many of these "self respecting politician" that are saying the "milktoast nationalist stuff" he said do you have today, kiddo?
>>18521670>what am I missingThe big brother who's gonna make things right aesthetic
>>18521670You need to be a hideous shutin incel like most poltards to get it
>>18521785>>18522230I don't speak German, which is why I was asking for your help>>18521879Those videos certainly are more hype with the visuals overlayed, but that's not what the audiences experienced in the 1930s. They saw Hitler gesticulating on camera, or heard his speeches on the radio
>>18521670>Where did the impression that Hitler is charismatic come from?From awing the entire population of Germany.
>>18522979Have you tried listening to one of his speeches?I didn't feel awed
>>18521670Dude, charisma is all this psychopathic imbecile had.
>>18521670>What am I missing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2R2Xeo8HX8&list=PLTc48O2OY_m1fDpqBQnb3lX8P2P9p6TXU
>>18522112If you read Hitler’s speeches they usually aren’t well written they ramble on , he repeats himself and is very pedantic at least the later ones
>>18521855>mostly just a way for germans to get away with what they had done after losing WW2 much like the "I was just following muh orders" meme, it's just bullshit meant to shift the blame from a large amount of people who openly collaborated with nazism but were too scared to man up and face punishment for itThat’s interesting, people don’t often make that point.
It's just populist crap. Modern rightoids also fall for this. Shit, they fall for AI memes, lol.
>>18525013>they fall for AI memes,What?