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Why did black americans become a nation within a nation?

Most black americans see themselves as distinctly seperate from the american national identity. They believe they have no role in america's actions whether in the past or present and american identity is congruent with white people. That's why they say that the government of the country should give them reparations as if they part of a different country, and keep repeating the notion that blacks built america, when anyone part of the national framework would not have to say that in a forced way. Many even say that by serving in the military they fought in "white people's wars".

black americans are like arab israelis in israel, or kurds in turkey

Why did they fail to become fully american?
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>>18522555
Because they have archaic dna from a ghost source (monkeys)
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>>18522555
>nation within a nation
The term is "insider threat" actually
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>>18522555
Once civil war happens, I would firebombed those dman niggers
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The New Deal cut short black nationalism, all of a sudden they had access to white taxpayer money and there was no longer any economic benefit to separatism. Places like black wall street went out of business when desegregation cost them their captive market who had promptly joined the ranks of white consoomers buying from and working for the corporations
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>>18522565
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>>18522704
This is exactly why you are hated worldwide you racist pieces of shit. Remember when you actually start being stupid enough to start a race war a la nazi germany, you will be crushed again. What's more, it will break your heart when 50% of whites side with Blacks and jews in order to murder racist whites, it has happened every single time: the nazis lost, the british empire lost, the confederacy lost, the romans lost. Every single time minorities survived and you died, and half of all whites preferred to kill racists than join your ranks
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>>18522555
>Why did black americans become a nation within a nation?
They never did. Black Nationalism was just an idea that seemed to make a lot of sense, when in reality, the crackers would simply isolate those black autonomous regions, cut them off from utilities and visit them on the regular to rape and kill their unattended women.

Because that's what they've been doing with the Reservations whenever they aren't straight up encroaching on treaty lands.
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>>18522555
>Why did black americans become a nation within a nation?
because they were forcefully segregated for like 200 years
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>>18522764
>the confederacy lost
Debatable. Postwar, slavery was preserved and expanded and being a Free State was made unconstitutional.
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>>18522828
every race forms a clique when there is enough of them in a particular area since people are naturally "racist", only liberal whiteoids who were brainwashed to hate themselves would say otherwise (while still being racist anyway)
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>>18522833
>slavery was preserved
Not in the USA? Are you talking about worldwide here?
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>>18522555
Blacks and browns like to cry about how much they hate evil white people but all of them would rather die than have to live in a country that wasn't built and run by whites.
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>>18522555
>enslave people
>rape their women
>take their children as slaves
>destriy families
>don't let them go to school with whites
>isolate them socially and in terms of communities with whites
Gee, I wonder why some black people aren't exactly American patriots
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>>18522933
>Not in the USA?
Slavery was preserved by the 13th amendment and is still practiced on that basis. With the 13th amendment, being a Free State became impossible, because the decision to enslave people was taken out of State's hands and put into those of elected local judges.
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>>18522704
watch out everyone, we have an internet tough guy
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Because ethnonationalism is natural to all human beings.
An african american will always consider more of a brother a nigerian than his white neighbour, and the same goes for the white american, who considers more of a brother a circassian muslim than his black american neighbour, even though they speak the same language and the same religion.
A mexican castizo-creole will feel more sympathy for an spaniard than to a oaxacan zapotec, even though they are from the same nation.
You can see this phenomenon very present in the americas.
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>>18522555
Because white Americans wanted them to be excluded, fucking duh? The Constitution originally forbade non-whites from naturalizing and even after the Civil War the majority of white Americans remained hostile to blacks and designed laws to keep them separate from them and away from any government participation or high ranking position. Why would black Americans feel like part of a nation that actively and openly says "I don't want you"??
Blacks being treated normally is literally a very recent phenomen, segregation is literally within living memory, my dad was alive for that time. The aftershocks of that era are gonna take a while to subside.
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>>18522920
Ethnogenesis or assimilation can prevent this when people don't actively try to maintain division (which is explicitly what segregation was designed for). Black Americans wouldn't even exist anymore if they had simply been bred out of existence by mixing with whites, they're only 10-15% of the population after all.
Every Afrikaans white South African has black ancestry from the early 17th century but nobody can even "spot" that, the same would've probably happened to the descendants of mixed blacks in the USA if Jim Crow hadn't tried to "freeze" the racial line.
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>>18522555
>Most black americans see themselves as distinctly seperate from the american national identity. They believe they have no role in america's actions whether in the past or present.
thats not true in the slightest
>black americans are like arab israelis in israel, or kurds in turkey
your whole post in nonsense
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>>18522555
Almost everyone loves the people and culture of their country while not feeling a strong loyalty to the government that rules over them. This isn't unique to Black Americans or America
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>>18522555
>Why did black americans become a nation within a nation?
The nation (more or less) specifically made it very clear they did not want anything to do with them unless it meant taxing them or sending them to die for the cause of someone who hated them. Several times.
That tends to help the development of a separate culture and ethos from the majoritarian one.
>Why did they fail to become fully american?
Slavery, segregation, racism. Unironically. It's not a mystery. Up to a few decades a large amount of Americans didn't want them to be 'fully' american, despite the ironic fact they would have a stronger claim than many white Americans had they not been niggers.
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>>18522555
You got it backwards, Israelis are like black americans in Palestine, except they were never enslaved, they just bumrushed the country and imposed themselves on it, successfully imposed a system of apartheid and periodic genocide on the native population.



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