>Art bad>music bad>dancing bad>regional/cultural clothing bad>dogs bad>alcohol bad>pork bad>pretty women bad>not praying 5 times a day badwhy is islam so boring?
Because it's a religion for genuine retards who would be walking around with shit hanging out of their anus if there wasn't the threat of eternal fire telling them to wipe the correct number of times to not rot from the asshole outwards
Muslims made art thosure they couldn't draw living things but they developed their own forms of art focused on patterns, linework and colorAlso not all sects of Islam had the same view on artThe Persians and Moghuls considered the depiction of living things to be fine as long as the people had nothing to do with religion or inspired feelings of worship Also lets not pretend like Christians didn't have their own debates over artEven today some consider Catholics to commit idolatry but looking at the past lets not forget the Byzantine iconoclasts and their campaigns to destroy all depictions of people from the church which was successful for a few hundred years The only difference is that the iconoclasts eventually lost power and their views fell out of favor
>>18522668Killing jews is way more fun than any of those things
>>18522668>>Art bad>>music bad>>dancing bad>>regional/cultural clothing bad>>dogs bad>>alcohol bad>>pretty women badIslam as its traditionally practiced rejects these prohibitions
Islam is for Arabs and SEAmonkeys
>>18522668Thats just Salafism mainly
Art is allowed if it does not depict life.Music is allowed if you are chanting the Quran rhythmically without instruments.Pretty women are ok as long as they wear the Abaya, but nobody knows what the Abaya is. In Iran it is just a little half hijab thing that covers part of the hair but in Afghan it covers all even the eyes.Lol.
>>18523472Abaya isn't even necessary, the only thing necessary is the hijab and to just dress modestly
>>18522668no but like that picture within the picture is unironically me
>>18523201>it’s not Islam, it’s just the ideologically dominant, fastest growing interpretation of IslamThe Salafis won, Islam is what they say it is
>>18522668BORING, AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, EVIL.ISLAMISM IS EVIL, BECAUSE IT DISTORTS THE GOSPELS, MIXES THEM WITH RABBINISM, AND PERVERTS PEOPLE: ISLAMISM IS SATANISTIC IN ORIGIN, IN FACT, AND ULTIMATELY, JUST AS JUDAISM, AND AS PROTESTANTISM.
Art badmusic baddancing badregional/cultural clothing baddogs badalcohol badpork badpretty women badnot praying 5 times a day badNo arrow because I look like this and say things like this
>>18523539Cumgenius, a broken clock twice a day is right. Gotta hand it to you here. Now what do you think of this songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1cg5cli7bE
>>18522668It wasn't always this lame. This super strict fundamentalism is a recent thing. The Muslim Brotherhood took over the islamic world starting in the 1920s
>>18523610The Ottomans were the tard wranglers who held Islamic extremism in check till the early 20s. See a coincidence?
>>18522668Mohammed was a schizo retard who chimped out because he saw a picture of a teddy bear on a child's curtains.
>>18522668It's made by the Redditors of its day
>>18522726>made >developed>hadAnd what are they doing now, in the present? Or at least in the last centuries?
>>18523896Blowing up jews and building nukes
>>18523521It's only growing in the West. The Middle East has been growing less and less salafist, including its homeland of Saudi Arabia, while immigrants and especially their children strangely enough have been embracing it on mass, possibly out of an overcompensating way of feeling a sense of belonging to their heritage.
>>18523967Similar to American jews from Pennsylvania that make aliyah and become the most accelerationist Zionists in Israel calling for the destruction of the USA and wanting millions of Muslims sent to Europe.
>>18523967Syria is ruled by Salafis, so is a huge chunk of West Africa. They are winning
Not a Muslim so I have no horse in this race but I wouldn't be surprised if most Muslims were just nominal Muslims just like most Christians are just nominal Christians. They don't take the Quran or whatever all that seriously just like how Christians aren't cutting their balls off for the Kingdom of Heaven or bashing infants heads against rocks, most Muslims enjoy music and art, take a country like Indonesia for example, majority Muslim but they have a fairly sizeable music industry.
>>18524170Zero sympathy for Muslim women. No one should have any sympathy for Muslim women. The most hardcore supporters of the Taliban, ISIS, etc. are Muslim women (they literally flew from Australia to Syria to be ISIS wives).
>>18522726All such things were due to "Muslims" not being full sunnah autists yet.
>>18522668incel religion
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>>18523068It’s a shame they suck so bad at it
>>18523997People make the error that his all a salafi thing. Really, Hanbali madhabs don't differ that much on this from the others. All four major Sunni madhhabs, Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, and Hanbali, developed restrictions on music and figurative art, although the Hanbali school historically adopted the strictest position. Sahih al-Bukhari's report that Muhammad stated "there will be among my Ummah people who will regard as lawful adultery, silk, alcohol, and musical instruments," along with Qur'an 31:6 concerning lahw al-hadith ("idle talk") and Qur'an 17:64 regarding Satan's "voice," are the big reasons for it. Hanafi and Shafi hold that one can sing poetry for example but that is pretty much the extent of it.
Shi'a madhabs, traditionally prohibits ghināʾ, melodic singing associated with entertainment, frivolity. Basically, singing without melody is accepted and without instruments. The most progressive and unorthodox take is that you could listen to mustic if it is not associated with sinful activities or people. Basically, this meant to be only religious poetry but people reinterpret it to include stuff like classical. Not accurate technically. It helps to remember Islam institutionalizes these rules in a legal system. unlike other religions.The one big difference is that Sunni madhabs prohibit all depiction of living things and ideally all art except that used to teach like a digram. Shia only prohibit idolatry, the creation of paintings, drawings, and even depictions of prophets and Imams has often been tolerated. Some subtraditions even hold only those things should be depicted.
>>18524964The idea that only is what should be depicted is the source of a lot of Islamic calligoraphy. The idea is to have some other religious form be the real composition. A kinda work around the rules. Here are some materials on the issue.Surah 17:63-64[Allah] said, "Go, for whoever of them follows you, indeed Hell will be the recompense of you - an ample recompense. And incite [to senselessness] whoever you can among them with your voice and assault them with your horses and foot soldiers and become a partner in their wealth and their children and promise them." But Satan does not promise them except delusion.Quran 17:63-64Surah 31:6But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a Humiliating Penalty.Quran 31:6Surah 53:59-61Do ye then wonder at this recital? And will ye laugh and not weep,- Wasting your time in vanities?Quran 53:59-61
Narrated Aisha: That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of 'Id-ul-Fitr or 'Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. "Musical instrument of Satan!" But the Prophet said, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id."Sahih Bukhari 3931Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."Sahih Bukhari 5590Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Angels do not accompany the travellers who have with them a dog and a bell.Sahih Muslim 2113a
Here some excerpts from fiqh or Islamic law books.MUSICAL INSTRUMENTSr40.1 (Ibn Hajar Haytami:) As for the condemnation of musical instruments, flutes, strings, and the like by the Truthful and Trustworthy (Allah bless him and give him peace), who"does not speak from personal caprice: it is nothing besides a revelation inspired" (Koran 53:3-4),let those who refuse to obey him beware lest calamity strike them, or a painful torment. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:(1) "Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded me to do away with musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affair of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance."(2) "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress."(3) "Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage."(4) "This Community will experience the swallowing up of some people by the earth, metamorphosis of some into animals, and being rained upon with stones." Someone asked, "When will this be, O Messenger of Allah?" and he said, "When songstresses and musical instruments appear and wine is held to be lawful."(5) "There will be peoples of my Community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful ...."All of this is explicit and compelling textual evidence that musical instruments of all types are unlawful (Kaff al-ra'a' 'an muharramat al-lahw wa al-sama' (y49), 2.269-70).
40.2 (Nawawi:) It is unlawful to use musical instruments—such as those which drinkers are known for, like the mandolin, lute, cymbals, and flute—or to listen to them. It is permissible to play the tambourine at weddings, circumcisions, and other times, even if it has bells on its sides. Beating the kuba, a long drum with a narrow middle, is unlawful (Mughni al-muhtaj ila ma'rifa ma'ani alfaz al-Minhaj (y73), 4.429-30).SINGING UNACCOMPANIED BY MUSICAL INSTRUMENTSr40.3 (Ibn Hajar Haytami:) As for listening to singing that is not accompanied by instruments, one should know that singing or listening to singing is offensive except under the circumstances to be mentioned in what follows. Some scholars hold that singing is sunna at weddings and the like, and of our Imams, Ghazali and 'Izz ibn 'Abd al-Salam say that it is sunna if it moves one to a noble state of mind that makes one remember the hereafter. It is clear from this that all poetry which encourages good deeds, wisdom, noble qualities, abstinence from this-worldly things, or similar pious traits such as urging one to obey Allah, follow the sunna, or shun disobedience, is sunna to write, sing, or listen to, as more than one of our Imams have stated is obvious, since using a means to do good is itself doing good (Kaff al-ra'a' 'an muharramat al-lahw wa al-sama' (y49), 2.273).Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred LawAhmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, Edited and Translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller
40.27. Things one should not listen toIt is not lawful for you to deliberately listen to all of a falsehood nor to take pleasure in listening to the words of a woman who is not lawful for you nor to listen to musicians and singers.[ Falsehood is like backbiting or action like listening to musical instruments and their sound.[Hash: According to Ibn 'Umar, listening to it is not haram.]It is not lawful for you enjoy the speech of a woman with whom you cannot have intercourse, and so it would be permitted to enjoy the words of a wife or slavegirl. It is not permitted to enjoy the voice of a beardless youth. It is not lawful to listen to things like lutes and singing.]The Risala of 'Abdullah ibn Abi Zayd al-QayrawaniA Treatise on Maliki Fiqh (Including commentary from ath-Thamr ad-Dani by al-Azhari)
>>18524984Well shit man that sure recontextualizes that post about American soldiers showing Gaza Children movies
>>18524961>HanbaliJudaized takfiri filth from the get got
>>18524961Muslims interpreting "idle talk" as music just because a companiom said so goes to show how retarded Muslims are. If the verse meant music, it would have said music. It clearly refers to idle discourse as it directly says, not music. There's simply nothing at all pointing to it meaning music other than deliberate misinterpretation. This especially nonsensical considering Muslims have more of a problem with instruments specifically than singing alone. How tf is playing a piano idle talk?
