For all the hullaballoo about class it doesn't seem like anyone sincerely cares about abolishing it when push comes to shove. Whenever communists came to power they just instituted another class collaborationist regime.
>>18525071>Yellow representing the Chinese raceThe star on the USSR flag also yellow. Representing the yellow Russian race? And the east German flag represent the yellow Deutsches volk?
>>18525071Communism is the slow way to fascism
>>18525076why you heff to be mad
All ideolgies are class collaborationism except for the various strands of anarchism, but those don't count since they are fairytale ideologes and also just lying sales pitch versions of other larger ideologies (ancom is socialism and ancap is liberalism).Fascist is just the most explicit about it while others try to handwave it.
>>18525076>The star on the USSR flag also yellow. Representing the yellow Russian race? It represents the Yellow soldiers of the Red Army>And the east German flag represent the yellow Deutsches volk?It represents those Germans with the Mongolian-esque phenotype like Rainer Werner Fassbinder. I read an interview with one of his actresses who said she thought he was Mongolian when she met him.
>>18525113Kek
>>18525071Communists explicitly state ending the existence of the bourgeoisie class is one of their chief goals. I doubt they would put stars for them on their flag
>>18525270>The four occupations, or "four categories of the people" was an occupation classification used in ancient China by either Confucian or Legalist scholars as far back as the late Zhou dynasty and is considered a central part of the fengjian social structure (c. 1046–256 BC). >These were the shi (warrior nobles, and later on gentry scholars),>the nong (peasant farmers),>the gong (artisans and craftsmen)>and the shang (merchants and traders).
>>18525270The communist party of China explicitly states the national bourgeoisie are revolutionary.
>>18525071
>>18525270>>18525432Thing about Mao is that the revolution was not socialist in a strict sense, it was a New Democratic Revolution against imperialism, feudalism, and bureaucratic capitalism in a semi-colonial, semi-feudal country.
>>18525096Man I wonder what ever became of that proud patriot who saw the CCP as the saviors of chi- oh...
>>18525612I'm convinced that China thinks Communism is synonymous with Republicanism because of the language barrier.
>>18526115Pretty much everyone persecuted in those times were rehabilitated under Deng
>>18526121No they understand western politics perfectly fine. The CCP has right wing (liberal) and left wing (left-communist) factions. Under Mao the right was declared the enemy and there were anti rightist campaigns etc to snuff out possible right wingers. Under Deng the left wing was declared to be the more dangerous enemy.
>>18525270Are you implying the Chinese are poor communists?
>>18526140Are you implying that there are rich communists?
>>18525071why are (you) so mad about the very concept of class consciousness? Are you a bourgie and butthurt that your workers started unionizing?
>>18526182Nah I just think it's a larp, like Christianity or Paganism
>>18525076The supposed official symbolism is post hoc cope. A Soviet bureaucrat designed the Chinese flag based on the Soviet flag just like they designed the North Korean flag. There was no thought put into symbolism reflecting anything particular about China or its culture.
>>18525071Whenever communists come to power they quickly realise that actual communism is impossible to implement. After a few experimental flops, the eventual form of "liberation" from class and capitalism that most communist societies settled on is the liberation of just making everyone a public sector employee. Which is often cushier than being a private sector employee but is hardly some radically inspiring vision of human emancipation that communism was originally sold as.
>>18526189>making everyone a public sector employeeLess than a quarter of chinas workers are employed by the government/an SOE, less than denmark
>>18526184gods don't effect my life but money sure as hell does
>>18526126>right wing (liberalBruh liberalism is left wing you trannoid.
>>18526195And? It's not like you can abolish wage cuckoldry, just mildly reform it
>>18526218>t. man that has been in a coma since the 19th century
>>18526182>Are you a bourgieOwning one too man a cattle can have me labelled as being one so sure. Or a "rich peasant" (who are treated exactly the same).
>>18526222Why else would rightists blame all the worlds woes on woke sjw liberalism HUH?
>>18526225Unironically though. Anything besides a theocracy or absolute monarchy is sjw bullshit
>>18526230>Anything besides a theocracy or absolute monarchy is sjw bullshitWhatever you say Muhammad
>>18526231You're the one talking about free markets and democracy being woke sjw bullshit, tard
>>18526232Not the same guy, I'm just a humble lurker
>>18526224how many cows do you own, anon?
>>18526225actual leftists don't have very much political power in america so republicans have to blame other liberals and they are too retarded to understand that they are liberals too
>>18525351yes, and?
>>18526194if SOE stands for 'state-owned enterprise', then no, it's 100%. there are people in china who may think they own something, but it's just an illusion the party allows them to have.
>>18526186>On the morning of 23 September, the representatives of the CPPCC discussed the national flags, but came to no conclusion. Some disliked the symbolism which Zeng attached to the four smaller stars, and said it should not include the bourgeoisie. The design Mao and others liked had a giant golden star in the corner on a red flag that was charged with a golden horizontal bar. But this design was strongly opposed by Zhang Zhizhong, who saw the golden bar as symbolizing China being divided into two.[52] That night, Peng Guanghan (彭光涵) recommended Zeng's design to Zhou Enlai. Zhou was satisfied with it and asked for the creation of a larger copy of the design. Tan Kah Kee also gave his advice to Mao and Zhou that the power characteristics take precedence over Chinese geography characteristics, so there was no need to insist on the golden bar that symbolized the Yellow River. Two days later, Mao had a meeting in his office about the flag. He persuaded everyone to adopt Zeng's design, with some slight modifications.[53] According to earlier discussions at the Beijing Hotel, the hammer and sickle from Zeng's original design was removed since it was similar to the flag of the Soviet Union.[51] On 27 September 1949, Zeng's modified design was selected unanimously by the First Plenary Session of CPPCC, which changed the flag's name to "Five-star Red Flag".[54][47][55]
>>18526672The shi are burgeroiseiese.
>>18525071Race is more of a class than class is. You have much more in common with a rich businessman who's the same race as you than you do with an immigrant who's not your race and who just happens to earn a wage just like you.
>>18527040>You have much more in common with a rich businessman who's the same race as you than you do with an immigrant who's not your race and who just happens to earn a wage just like you.No I don't. Wealth correlates with psycopathy.
Class consciousness makes sense for the Third World because if you're an African child, Elon Musk will go out of his way to kill you with AIDS or ebola.But yeah if you're a first worlder it's just a LARP basically.
Timmy """proles""" be like>waah I earn less than boomers did and my wife left me for a high-earning BharatBVLL CEO, this is literally proletarian genocide o algo
