Serbs>1.2% J1>9% J2a>5% N,Q,R1a-Z93Albanians Ghegs>1.5% J1>2.9% J2a>0.1% N,Q,R1aTurkish Anatolian>7.17% J1 (to be fair only 2.8% is specific Semitic PF58 mutation found in all J1 in Serb and Albanians)>18.59% J2a>24% N,Q,R1a-Z93I think any honest person knows what happened. No baiting and just accept it serby
>>18525120Here’s the sourcehttps://dnk.poreklo.rs/DNK-projekat/515 divide by 5584 = 10% J2. But wait
>>18525125Serbs barely have J2b-l283 found in Illyrians. So Serbs are 9% J2a according extensive Serbian DNA project.
>>18525127Now compare to Albanian in Albanian DNA project. Only 2.9% of gheg Albanians are J2a which is J2-M410 pic related. Tosk about 10% (unfortunately).How come Serbs are 3 times more and just as much J2a as Gheg and Tosk Albanians despite being more northern population?
>>18525131Okay look at this. Haplogroup N found in statistically less than 0.1% Albanians and 3% of Serbs. Wow
>>18525135We’ll look at his. J1 in Serbs around 1.2% (69 divide by 5584). And just 1.5% of Gheg Albanian >>18525131? Should not Serbs have way less?
>>18525138Look at this. Haplogroup Q, another turkomongol gene. 25 Serbs out of 5584 have it, ie 0.45% but 0% for Albanians?
>>18525141Look at this. I can’t filter specific branches but 800 Serbs out of 5584 have R1a. Which is 14.32%. I assume 1% have turko Iranic R1a - z93.
>>18525144Of course not a single Albanian has it. But look, pretty common in Anatolian Turks.Look Q+N+R1a-z93 is 24% for Anatolian Turks.And with data Q+N+R1a-z93 is 5% for Serbs. And statistically 0% for Albanians.So the logical question is why turkomongols raped serbs but not Albanians? Why Serbs have higher J2a than gheg Albanians? Why Serbs have same J1 as Gheg Albanians? Why?
>>18525120Some studies show that around 20% of albanian genetic ancestry comes from an archaic hominin species. And honestly, that explains a lot.
>>18525294Serbs are Turk rape babies. Grim no?
>>18525301If Serbs are Turks why aren't they on the Turkic council?
>>18525321Because rapebabies aren’t respected
>>18525301Albanians are ugly, stupid, brown manlets. That's grim.
>>18525345Serbs are brown turk rape babies
>>18525321There are three impostor larpers on the image, we all know who they are
>>18525120Albanians are autosomally closer to Ashkneazis than most of Europeans. Some of them are genetically closer to Ashkenazis than Serbs not imagine. How far they are from germanicsVahaduoAdmixture JSdatasourcetargetdistancesinglemultiTarget: SerbianDistance: 2.1749% / 0.0217488551.2 German48.8 Albanianclear output cycles - 0.25xreduce - noadd dist col - noprint zeroes - noaggregate - yesadd bar chart - mode 1run allSerbianSerbs are genetically closer to Germans than to Albanians despite mixing with Albanians up to this day
>>18525120>I think any honest person knows what happened.I'm not dishonest but I can't into autistic statistic. What happened here?
>>18525395>closerNot really. Serbs have 5% YDNA OF TURKOMONGOL RAIDERS while Albanians have less than 0.1%, practically zero. Serbs have 1.2% Semitic J1 while Albanian ghegs 1.5%.Why is your shitskin turk rapebaby as so petty? I’m going to have to bake this thread every day just to make you miserable.
>>18525120Serbian N2 haplo is just some asiatic people that mixed with local illyrians before christ. It had bottleneck effect in Northern Montenegro in 12th or 13th century. Its carriers where autosomally serbians back then>>18525127Proof that J2a is 9% pleasehttps://youtu.be/Ci6Y5tEOQuQ?si=qwoU6gmlmGKU4Rxq
>>18525399Turks raped Serbs. Serbs have 5% paternal dna matching Turkic tribes. Albanians 0%. And Turks in Anatolia around 24%. This is DNA passed from father to son. If Serb has Turkic dna is granddaddy was Turk.
>>18525403
>>18525120kek even serbs are whiter than albanians, albanians have the shortest distance to turks out of all europeans and that's not even including the 15-20% of global albanian population that lives in turkey and has lived there for centuries
>>18525406Now switching to N2? All of N is Siberian. Illyrians have zero N stop spreading disinformation or provide proof you lying cigani.>serbs 9% J2aLook at Serb dna project
>>18525407As you can see n2 separated from n1c in vietnam much before proto turkic peoples came to be. It was never in their homeland and it arrived in Europe in late 1st millenium BC. Do you think Albanians are black due to E1b? I dont
>>18525407I see. Thanks!
>>18525412Nope i want you to show me. Because i dont borther searching all the subclades. Just one j2b subclade in Serbs is atleast 3%
>>18525120albania is more polluted than indiahttps://www.numbeo.com/pollution/rankings_by_country.jsp
Albanians pollute their neighbors, like our beaches in Dalmatia
lake in albania can't be cleaned up despite millions of eu funds specifically for it because people keep throwing trash
>>18525412N2 is old name for south slavic branch n1 p189.2
>>18525430That's not south slavic, it's in Botai culture and some west siberian neolithic types.
>>18525423albania bros we're losing izzat fasthttps://www.intellinews.com/albania-has-europe-s-dirtiest-bathing-waters-327902/https://everwave.de/en/2025/07/08/plastic-in-albania/https://balkaninsight.com/2014/05/28/albania-s-beaches-dirtiest-in-europe-report-says/bi/all-balkan-countries/
>>18525423capital of albania
>>18525411>>18525120there are 7-10 million albanians in the world and only 2 million live in albania (like op hiding behind an italian flag doesn't)about 15-20% of global albanian population lives in turkeyabout 6.6% of switzerland's population are albanianshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians
albanians commit more rape in the uk than somalians, syrians and africans
>>18525433It become slavic in 7th 10 th century. Before that it was assimilated illyrian as i got to balkans in 2nd century bcAlbanian Tosks have 6 % j1 lol
>>18525451>>18525448albanians commit 4x more crime in the uk than somalians, and 2x more crime than afghanis
>>18525445>go on google earth>drop little orange dude on durres, albania>half the city looks like thisvgh... the favelas of illyria
>>18525456
>>18525459
>>18525456>>18525451>>18525448>>18525411albanians are dumber than jamaicans, mexicans, peruvians, and on par with el salvadorians and palestinians
>>18525451>>18525456>>18525448not only are they more violent than indians, they're also more polluted >>18525423
>>18525423MUCH LIKE JEETS NEED TO BE TOLD TO POO IN THE LOO, ALBANIANS NEED TO BE TOLD TO THROW TRASH IN THE GARBAGE BIN INSTEAD, PIC REL "SAVE SHQIPERI (ALBANIA)"
>>18525463kek there's people living in semi-ruined houses all over the place, I'm not even cherry picking this shit
>>18525478that's the second richest city too
>>18525456>>18525451albanians name their kid after tony blair "tonibler" then invade the uk and do more crime in the uk than afghanis, rape more than somalis and never lose their loyalty to the albanian state which they don't live in (does it remind you of jews, if jews were violent?)
>>18525484much like jews hate living in their country and wear a kippah, albanians (like all muslims do) wear a tiny white hat themselves and also have no loyalty to their host nation and their loyalty lies to their home country they abandoned (much like the mentally ill albanian op that spent the last several years spreading fake pics on 4chan despite living in canada)
>>18525411>>18525448https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENxfAwr-fxQ
>>18525411>>18525448albanians worship us because we saved them from the serbs, but we won't save them again
>>18525411>>18525448
>>18525482yo /trv/ bros, I just booked this airbnb on the beautiful albanian riviera, thoughts?
>>18525411>>18525448black and red on my chest
>>18525498looks lovely bro, illyrian even
>>18525492>>18525411>>18525448
>>18525411>>18525448>>18525495albanians worship our feet, much like they worship american feet, because they know we're superior and their only hope against the serbs
>>18525399OP is salty about albanians being brown and stupid and albania being a poor dirty shithole so he copes by claiming that serbs are turkish rapebabies (for which he has no evidence of course).
>>18525451>>18525456>>185254483 ALBANIAN MEN WITH BRITISH CITIZENSHIP RAPE A CROATIAN WOMAN IN CROATIA
>>18525120City of Kragujevac exports more in 4 months than whole Kosovo did in 1 year. In 2026 it will export slightly less than whole Albania
>>18525516that is op samefagging, he's mad that albanians are the turkish rape babies closer to turks than any other balkan ethnicity and that that doesn't even include the 15-20% of all albanians living in turkey >>18525411he's a mentally ill albanian living in canada that has spent several years doing this, also fabricating images to make it seem like albania is white and then spamming 4chan and x with it, you can check the archivehe calls for death of slavs, nordics and germanics, and says all 3 should leave europe
>>18525521https://www.ekapija.com/news/5574677/iz-kragujevca-u-prva-cetiri-meseca-2026-izvezena-roba-za-milijardu-evra
>>18525521>>18525467>>18525456>>18525451more specifically, he says he is there in canada to conquer it because he hates anglos, despite anglos letting him live in canada instead of his beloved albania
>>18525525>>18525521you forgot to include their top and only export: prostitutesi'm sure if you factored that in, they would be the #1 exporter of all goods in the world
>>18525403You really think that anyone takes your haplobabble seriously? I also fail to see how serbs being "turkish rapebabies" makes albanians not poor brown and stupid.
>>18525503>spend wonderful day sightseeing in the illustrious capital>take a left on the trash river, stroll down scenic mud road>quench my thirst at skanderbeg cafe while 'mirin its rustic facade>only had a little bit of diarrhea afterwardsbest vacay everrrrrrr
>>18525541don't forget the best part, you get to look at those white, blonde albanians in the background and talk to them even!
>>18525120This again? Do you even have a job? Why do Albanians lie so much? N is an East Asian haplogroup, most common in Uralic and Siberian people, and in present day Finland. It's present in all of Eastern Europe, and Q is most common in Sweden of all places.N-P189 is a European branch of it, while N-VL73 is the Turkish one. If you want to equate these two, then we equate the E haplogroup (which is the main reason Serbs are swarthy) that's most common in Albania to the E haplogroup in all of Northern Africa. All of Eastern Europe has it, even Lithuania has about the same % of N as Serbia.>>Connection to the Balkans: N-P189 is overwhelmingly a European branch. Genetic research indicates that its highest concentrations and variance are found within the Balkans, extending to the Carpathians and even Italy.Q haplogroup is also a Siberian haplogroup, in Turkey the two branches are Q-M25 and Q-M378; in Serbia they're Q-L713, Q-Y2209, and Q-L330. It is only 0.5% in all of Serbia, and most common in Sweden, Denmark, and Norway. It came to Serbia from Ukraine (and to Ukraine it came from Siberia) If you want to equate them, then we, again, equate the E haplogroup found in Northern Africa to the in Albania, since they're different branches of the same haplogroup, so the same reasoning applies.>The primary differences between the Haplogroup Q found in Turkey and the one found in Serbia come down to specific branches (subclades), historical origins, and overall frequency. While both lines trace their deepest roots back to the ancient nomads of Central Asia or Siberia, they arrived in Anatolia and the Balkans via entirely different historical migrations.
>>18525594Lithuania has 30-40% N, Serbia has 3-4%
>>18525455Dog nigger. I literally have Serbian dna project with 5584 Serbian samples. Serbs 9% J2a, 1.25% J1, and 5% N,Q and R1a-z93. Stop being a sore loser.
>>18525538Serbs are way browner than Albanians. Serbs literally have Turk rape blood while Albanians do not
>>18525594It’s not European branch, barely in Europe in historical samples of Europe proper before age of migration. Q is Siberian, as is N and R1a-z93 is central Asian associated medieval gene.Serbs 5% total, Albanians 0%. Turks 24%. Guess why that is. The last common ancestor of Albanian E1b and every other e1b is over 15,000 years ago. This isn’t the as all N, Q, and R1a-z93 found in Serbs and Turks.
>>18525120>J1>The presence of Y-DNA haplogroup J1 in Serbia differs from its presence in Albania in three main ways: overall frequency, specific subclades (branches), and historical migration paths.While both countries share a broad "Balkan" genetic landscape, their local J1 profiles point to completely different founder lineages.1. Frequency In Serbia: J1 is highly rare, making up only 1.7% to 4.5% of the ethnic Serbian population.In Albania: J1 is slightly more prominent, averaging around 2% to 5% across the country, with distinct localized pockets where it peaks much higher due to regional founder effects.>J1 . Frequency (How Common It Is)In Serbia: J1 is highly rare, hovering around 1% to 1.7% of the population. It is viewed as a minor, highly fragmented lineage introduced through scattered historic movements.In Albania: J1 is notably more common, appearing at roughly 2% to 3.5% of the general population. It reaches even higher regional densities among specific clusters in Southern Albania (e.g., the Labëria region).>R1a-Z93 Not common at all>In Serbia, paternal haplogroup R1a is present at roughly 14.9% to 15% in the general population. However, the vast majority of European R1a belongs to the Western/Slavic branch R1a-Z282. The R1a-Z93 subclade is the primary "Asian" branch, making it exceptionally rare in the Balkans, typically appearing in trace amounts (less than 1%)
>>18525605ok, but do you have a magic potion to make albania not a shithole and yourself not a turkroach manlet with dung-coloured skin?
>>185256162 different llms, same conclusion, also wikipedia lists the same frequencies
>>18525616I already posted this dipshit. Gheg Albanians are 1.5% J1 and Serbs 1.2%. Yes tosks have higher but guess what, tosks are just 0.2% N and no R1a-z93 and Q. Ghegs, the Albanians you hate the most zero on all fronts. Yes Serbs DO HAVE Z93. Stop lying about it. It’s at least 1%. R1a - z93 = 1%Q = 0.45%N = 3.3%Nearly 5% but 0% in Albanian and 24% in Anatolian turks.
>>18525617But Serbs are literal brown turkroaches why are you insulting your daddy if 5% of your brothers have their genes and superior Albanians have zero?You cant escape the Serbian dna project that embarrasses. J2a 9% in Serb, just 2.9% in gheg and 10% in tosk. Tosk have more slavshit and Greek root but even tosk don’t have Turk genes like Serbs.
>>18525614It's the European branch of an East Asian haplogroup, literally wikipedia will tell you this. Almost all European countries have one branch of N, even those infinitely whiter than yours like Finland, Lithuania and Estonia where it is the most common haplogroup. It is due to Siberian migrations. If you want to equate all branches of the same haplogroup as equal, then you'd literally make yourself North African, as your main haplogroup is just E, so if you don't want to dive deeper into branches, your argument digs your own grave.
>>18525620Don’t use an llm dipshit use the Serbian dna project I’ve linked but you won’t for some reason.
>>18525632It’s not, it’s literally found in Kazakhstan around 5000 bc according to YTREE. Your logic about E1b is dumb and typically Serbian because the last common ancestor of Albanian E1b, E-V13 and other E1b clades is over 15,000 years! Your N is 100% Turk derived, how is it that YOU HAVE IT but Albanians do not?????
>>18525417Thanks for raping these disgusting bastards and not raping us. These shameless idiots have their own Serbian dna project with over 5000 people but want to bury their heads in the sand. And Albanian dna project lacks entirely these Turkish roots. They’ll never admit it because they are sore losers.
>>18525624>Q Read:Q haplogroup is also a Siberian haplogroup, in Turkey the two branches are Q-M25 and Q-M378; in Serbia they're Q-L713, Q-Y2209, and Q-L330. It is only 0.5% in all of Serbia, and most common in Sweden, Denmark, and Norway. It came to Serbia from Ukraine (and to Ukraine it came from Siberia) If you want to equate them, then we, again, equate the E haplogroup found in Northern Africa to the in Albania, since they're different branches of the same haplogroup, so the same reasoning applies.The primary differences between the Haplogroup Q found in Turkey and the one found in Serbia come down to specific branches (subclades), historical origins, and overall frequency. While both lines trace their deepest roots back to the ancient nomads of Central Asia or Siberia, they arrived in Anatolia and the Balkans via entirely different historical migrations.>NRead N is an East Asian haplogroup, most common in Uralic and Siberian people, and in present day Finland. It's present in all of Eastern Europe, and Q is most common in Sweden of all places.N-P189 is a European branch of it, while N-VL73 is the Turkish one. If you want to equate these two, then we equate the E haplogroup (which is the main reason Serbs are swarthy) that's most common in Albania to the E haplogroup in all of Northern Africa. All of Eastern Europe has it, even Lithuania has 30-40*% of it (thanks for the correction, anon).>z930.53%, mostly in Southern Serbia where Muslims live>0% in AlbanianN and Q are not Turkish, so no reason to be present in Albania. You have about the same amount of z93 as there is in Serbia, especially in Kosovo.If you wish to ignore branches, then you are literally North African.
>>18525653False on everything. Firstly, both N and Q will always be associated with central Asian / Siberian incursions. Secondly Serbs have all the varieties of clades that Turks have. Thirdly, comparing E1b of Albanians that have last common ancestor with other E1b over 15,000 years is embarrassing. Not even remotely sound logic. Finally, Albanians have zero R1a-z93, only one guy on ytree has it listed and again probably a tosk. Albanians have zero percent statistically of these genes, Serbs 5%, Turks 24%.
>>18525605Serbs will never be browner than Albanians due to the sole reason of having more R1a (east-slavic), l2 (slavic) and then also West and Northern European like l1.The only Serbs who are brown are those with paleo-Balkan admixture (which is your main admixture), and why the more south you go in Serbia, the less white they are, because your predominant haplogroup becomes more common in those regions. If we were ranking haplogroups by swarthiness, E1b would take the first place.You want to argue that you both belong here in the Balkans, but then you also want to argue that you're white, despite that having to make you brown, which you are as you can see from literally any pictures of Albanians. And why if you want to post brown looking Serbs, you post those who are genetically closer to Albanians and Bulgarians than l1, l2 or R1a Serbs.Serbs simply have more Germanic and North-Western European admixture, and also West and East Slavic admixture. The brown ones are those with paleo balkan and med admixture, which are the most common in your shithole.
>>18525603No you didnt this data is also based on srpski dnk projekat. You never specified J2a subclades and its individual %. Most of Serbian J2 is J2b
>>18525663Serbs 100% brown since you are literal Turk rape babies with 5% Turkish YDNA. Plus 9% J2a, see this image >>18525120 and this>>18525127Albanians have zero N, Q, R1a-z93 and 3 times less J2a than Serbs. So yes you are brown, just because you kidnapped some white women up north doesn’t mean you’ve purified your shit genes you stupid rape baby t
>>18525653Serbian R1a z93 is from iranics that were assimilated by slavs in ukraine
>>18525668NO MOST SERBIAN J2 is not J2b see this>>18525127And your dna project is not as extensive as this one in OP you jealous retard>>18525125
>>18525658Nothing I said is false and can be checked on wikipedia. You will continue to seethe and be jobless, while posting these threads, but anyone with a brain can simply google this and come to the same conclusion.
>>18525637N2 arrived in balkans before christ and boomed only in 12th century CE due to bottleneck effect. Same like majority of slavis serbian ydna isnt r1a but i2a (south dinaric) it boomed upon their arrival due to one man reproducing alot
>>18525672It’s 100% from Turkish dick otherwise Albanians would have it too.>>18525676>>18525676You’re a low iq retard and bullshit, literally every N and Q in Europe is botai mongoloid and Turks have all of these clades. You can’t be bothered to go through the biggest Serbian DNA project in your own language for some reason.
>>18525678Provide actual proof that N2 came in Balkans before Christ. Stupid pissing and shitting. I’m going to bake this bread every day if you niggers act like this.
>>18525670So, you continue to spew the same retardation even after being proven wrong? If you want to claim all those haplogroups are Turkish and we don't dive deeper into subclades, then your argument would be used to say Lithuania is 40% Turkish or Finland is 58% Turkish. By that logic, you'd also be North African. >>18525653>>18525616>>18525594You are retarded
>>18525541kek
>>18525685Every single N in Europe is not older than 2000 bc in just Russia, in Europe itself not older than 500 bc and only in north east. It’s Manchu, same genes that osmans have. No I wouldn’t be North Africa if the last common ancestor is older 15,000 years.
>>18525497i honestly can't tell albanians apart from syrians in my country
>>18525695But why do Serbs have 3 times as much syriac J2a than Albanians? Personally it’s hard to tell apart most Serbs from Indians.
>>18525697i literally don't give a shit about either of those shithole countries, just want you albanian scum out of mine
>>18525701Croats are even worse with the Turk rape genes. Never looked at their Arab dna. Probably same.
>>18525448>>18525423actual fucking bioweapon
>>18525702i'm not croatian you absolute fucking schizophrenic retard, do you think there are syrians in croatia?
>>18525702It makes sense that border Christian regions would get raped by osmanli riders and other Turkic raiders from past. Serbshit literally have Turkic throat singing genes but very embarrassed about it.
>>18525709Then why are Serbs Turk rape babies and Albanians not? I’ve posted all the proofs with Serbian dna project (over 5584 Serbian monkeys tested) and Albanian dna projects (over 2000 kings tested).
>>18525713is this the famous albanian (lack of) iq? just because i hate your bioweapon ethnicity doesn't mean i'm serbian or croatian, i wouldn't be grouping you with syrians if i were, just want you to return to your brown india tier shithole and leave my country
>>18525718You haven’t answered my question you brown retard.
>>18525710albania was a frontier you dumbass
>>18525722So why does Serbs have 5% Turkish YDNA and Albanians 0%?
>>18525718>>18525709>>18525706You should check out the previous thread he made on Albania, he was posting a dead little Swedish girl and calling everyone in Europe but Albanians gypsies, saying Albanians are more white than Swedes lmao. He's been doing this for years by the way, Albania's greatest internet warrior who has paid 0 taxes to Albania >>18525724Maybe if you repeat it enough to yourself, you'll forget that you're lying to increase the izzat status of Albania online, despite being the single-handedly biggest shithole in Europe
>>18525448You forgot to include https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_Kosovo>Turkish settlement into Kosovo began in the late 14th century after the medieval Serbian state lost the Battle of Kosovo and the territory came under Ottoman rule. Although Turkish colonists began arriving in 1389-1455 when, during the Ottoman conquest, numbers of soldiers, officials, and merchants began to make their appearance in the major towns of Kosovo, the overwhelming majority of modern Turks in Kosovo are of Albanian origin.
>>18525760So how come Serbs have Turkish YDNA but Albanians do not? It’s a very simple question Serbs itt love to deflect calling their own Serbian dna project, largest ever with over 5584 men tested as fake or something. Embarrassing. I’m glad i bothered to find this project and look deep into to after serboid baited hard. Even J1 semit found 1.2% in Serbia, and 1.5% in gheg, makes sense for ghegs because of Roman era middle eastern migrations but what about Serbs?
>>18525724no nation in the balkans has "turkish dna". albanians are brown because they have more affinity with the pre-slavic inhabitants of the balkans, who were ugly shitskin roaches like all mediterranean ethnicities
>>18525492shit = coupleLmao
>>18525787Q, N, R1a-Z93, all associated with central and north Asian nomads, 5% of Serbs, 0% of Albanians and 24% of osmanli. Somehow Serbs no Turkish dna?
>>18525857ngl I'd rather have north asian steppe dna than be a subhuman fecal flesh medjeet. sperging about the 2% of serbs with an avar haplogroup or whatever won't change how dirty, brown, and poor and your "people" are
>>18525900But dirty brown and poor is what Serbs are.
SERF AND CRORAT NEED TO DIE AND GO BACK TO SLAVE SHIT
>>18525681Bosniak dna project. Its been in hungary since 8-9 BCE
>>18526210https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4218962/#S1Hungarian source: its called IR1 in the study and can be modelled as: ANF, CHG, Yamnaya
>>18526212It was 60% yamnaya, 30 chg 10% anf
>>18526210The modern distribution of the N2-Y6503>Y6542>P189.2 branch is exclusively concentrated in Europe, which suggests that its diversification into deeper subclades may have occurred precisely in Eastern Europe. Supporting this hypothesis is the discovery of the paternal haplogroup N2-Y6503 within the Iron Age archaeological culture of Mezőcsát, specifically at the Ludas-Varjú-dűlő site in present-day Hungary, dated to the 8th–9th century BCE (Gamba et al. 2014). Namely, the Early Bronze Age cultures that existed in the Pannonian Plain incorporated cultural elements from contemporary Near Eastern cultures, from Central Europe, and from the Eurasian steppes to the east. During the early phase of the Iron Age, variants of the Central European Hallstatt culture came to dominate the Danubian region, while the pre-Scythian Mezőcsát communities became the dominant cultural element east of the Pannonian Plain. This discovery could suggest that haplogroup N2-Y6503 was present within the Indo-European Yamnaya culture, initially in its eastern zones, and potentially among its descendant cultures such as Fatyanovo-Balanovo and Sintashta, which during the Eneolithic and Bronze Age dominated the vast steppe region between the Volga, the Urals, and the Caspian Sea in the far east of Europe. However, the absence of the N2-P189.2 branch among ancient European populations implies that the migration of carriers of haplogroup N2-Y6503 into Europe occurred in two waves: first with the expansion of Indo-European speakers from the Pontic-Caspian steppes during the Eneolithic and Early Bronze Age, and later during the Iron Age or the first half of the 1st millennium CE from the direction of the Volga-Ural lowlands.
>>18526191During the Kosovo War (1998–1999), wartime sexual violence and rape were utilized systematically by Serbian and Yugoslav forces as weapons of war and tools of ethnic cleansing against the ethnic Albanian population. Local organizations and international agencies estimate that between 10,000 and 20,000 individuals suffered sexual violence during the conflict.
>>18526191FIAT automobili Kragujevac- annual exports in whole 2025. 1037 million eurosKosovo exports 2025- 859 millio eurosThis year FIAT is set to make 150000 cars past year it made 50000 (they just started production) meaning FIAT exports will be slightly lower than whole Albania (3.6 billion annualy). Kosovo will in 2026 have similar exports as Minth Group based in Sabac Loznica (4000 people) they are activelly buildimg to make another factory in Loznica (600 emoloyes) and humanoid robot factory in sabac, 220 peoplw(1st in europe). After that in near future they are building 2220 man factory in Indjija then 1800 in Cuprija than 1000 people in Leskovac. With this trajectory they are set to have 2x bigger exports than kosovo in 2030
>>18526237Also, you forgot IT exports per capita:
>>18525697J2a came to balkans via ANF. Also Serbs dont have 9% of it. Post exact prove analys from serbian dnk project that says 90% J2a and 10% of J2B from what i have seen serbs have more j2b than j2a but that shouldnt matter as they all come here with ANF/Yamnaya
>>18526247Bosniak DNA project did deep analysis of J2a and said using results of serbian dna project in 2021 that Serbs have 3% of it which is same as albanian %. Why dont you put do the same? Go on Serbian dna priect and tell us how much j2b j2a serbs have. But that shouldnt even matter as j2a is just ANFOn the other hand albanian tosks have 6% of legit semitic/jewish j1 which isnt anf but actual brown people emigrating to balkans in roman era
>>18526252https://bosnjackidnk.com/j2a1-pf4610-2/
>>18526246Brown balkanoids that LACK slavic STEM brain simply cannot be technologically relevant. What is irronical is that South Albanians that have slavic ydna are much more developed than whatever Ghegs and Tosks are
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>>18526246With this tech level they will never get into IT or high level tech. I guess they should end up giving it all to Kushner (we stopped his intentions in serbia after the protests). They are unable to earn money on macroeconomical scale without selling foreigners drinks, women and sunny beaches
>>18526220Okay thank you, however if it was Yamnaya related then why don’t Albanians have it? Because it isn’t. >>18526247Serbian dna project, look at OP image and the second image after initial post. I posted the website. Then look at this image, J2b-l283 confirmed 100% in Illyrian cultures of cetina valley in Dalmatia. Serbs have 1% on average. The Serb dna project says total 10% J2.>tosks J1 6%Yes and Ghegs 1.5%, Serbs 1.2%. Why are you hating tosks don’t Serbs love them more? Tosks in fact have more Slavic genes but maybe 2 out 700 guys score haplogroup N in Albanian dna project. Now for ancient N sample found in Hungary dating to 800 bc. It’s still a Turkic genes transmitted through Scythians that live around there called SINDU google it.
>>18526259South Albanians are tosks, tend be more shorter, more Slavic and more corrupt than other Albanians. Not hating tosks but they need to clean up their act and gene pool.
>>18526367Here Sindi tribehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindi_peopleThe Scythians were R1a-z93, they went to Mongolia and back and mixed several times with Siberians. So yes, either way it was always a MONGOLOID gene. Found in Serbs, statistically 0% in Albanians.
>>18526367> Okay thank you, however if it was Yamnaya related then why don’t Albanians have it? Because it isn’t.Because it had bottleneck. Like many other haplogroups. I2a Din South is irrelevant in West and East Slavs but had bottleneck effect in south slavs. They were both irrelevant until bottleneck> Then look at this image, J2b-l283 confirmed 100% in Illyrian cultures of cetina valley in Dalmatia.J2b i283 isnt the only j2b subclade in balkans. Most of serbian j2 is j2b. Although even Albanian and Serbian J2a arent foreign they are just ANF remains> Yes and Ghegs 1.5%, Serbs 1.2%. Why are you hating tosks don’t Serbs love them more? Tosks in fact have more Slavic genes but maybe 2 out 700 guys score haplogroup N in Albanian dna project.I dont care about tosks or ghegs they are all same shit in my view. Im wondering why you are dumping tosks tho. Tosks do have more slavic genes but also their paleobalkanic compoenent is much more southern than gheg. They also eat med food that doesnt have as much milk and meat as gheg have> Now for ancient N sample found in Hungary dating to 800 bc. It’s still a Turkic genes transmitted through Scythians that live around there called SINDU google it.N2 separated from N1 (legit asian hg) 8000 BCE. It went stright to Europe immediately and has found with autosomally 0 east euroasian autosomal dna. By the time it entered genepool of serbs it was 100% illyrian probably then montenegro slavic. Just like E-V13 isnt african despite its originw
>>18526396>it was probably 100% Illyrian>NNo it was mediated with Slavic invaders otherwise you need to provide genuine Illyrian dna samples with N which you can because I know them all.
>>18526403*cantAlso I am not dumping tosks, J1 and Slavic dna are the same to me. Tosks have a reason to have foreign dna because the Romans brought foreigners from mena to all of southern Europe.
>>18526403It arrived in Hungary and seaside Romania in 8th BCE it could have gotten in Montenegro/BIH any time after that. We dont know when it happed as its samples are rare and had bottleneck effect in south slavs. It was probably assimilated by thracians or illyrians as there were them in hungary
>>18526271>4 times more than somalisHow is this even achievable?
Does this guy think that by claiming that 5% of serbs are turkish rapebabies he will somehow steal Izzat from serbs and transfer it to albanians? Is this some kind of a new Izzat farming technique?
>>18526565Oh my sweet summer child, it's been years of spamming and faking izzat for Albania. Not to mention, by his logic of only considering haplogroups and not subclaves, he'd make the argument that Finland is 60%+ Turkish and Lithuanian 40% just because they have the N haplogroup.If you confront him with anything, he just disregards it and loops. He lives in Canada and has arguably never stepped foot into Albania since he left as a rapefugee. He hates Germanics, Nordics, Slavs, and even Italians and other meds. He says nordics are "slanted-eye mongols and gypsies", "meds are brown" and slavs are invaders. And none of them belong in Europe except for Albania.
>>18526565>>18526630And not just on 4chan, but on X, too.
>>18526630This retard has been spamming the same threads for years? Jesus, that's sad
>>18526630He already proved Lithuania is a turko-slavic mix of Lithuania_IA (almost 100% N so pure Turkic) and early slavs with R1a and I2..
>>18525120None of those clades are of Anatolian Turkish but are of Pan-Mediterranean origin; some are even parallel to the Mycenaean clade and were found in archaogenetic Mycenaean sites https://www.poreklo.rs/2021/03/13/haplogrupa-j2a-z6055y14439-medju-srbima/ (use Google Translate). Incidentally, all the Serbs who carry these J2a lineages were originally Albanian, namely the Pješivci, Cuce, Bandici, Krivosije, and Sotonići tribes.>Q0.443%, and the clade in question is specific to the Yamnaya and Corded Ware.>R1a-Z93Around 1%.>N1Present solely among the Bratonizici (N1 p189.2) tribe (or fraternity), another Paleo-Balkanite people who were Slavicized during the Middle Ages, their specific clade predates the Turkic people by at least two thousand years, and arrived with the Scythians.
>>18527369N in Balkans is not paleo Balkanic let alone Thracian, let alone Illyrian. Oldest sample a Serb provided was 800 bc in northern carpatian region, literally the entry point of all nomadic tribes into Pannonia. Otherwise wise it be found in Albanians as well as Q, but Q is entirely absent as well. It’s Scythian. Scythian and Turks intermixed with each other since andronovo.
>>18527476Nobody said that it's Paleo-Balkanite origin, but that it was already present among them because of Scythian mediation, and it has nothing to do with the Serbs, or other Slavs, for that matter.
>>18527476https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/BratonishiCope it comes from assimilated albanian tribe> There is no Q and R1aBecause you are much less of yamnyan origin than serbs. R1a Z93 is from assimilated iranics in Ukraine. Almost all slavs have it in low %
>>18527490>much lessWrong, Serbs are more corded ware. Yamnaya were majority R1b-z2103, J2b-L283 and R1b-PF7576, all found in ancient cultural grave sites from cetina, vucedol and Mycenaeans. If N, Q and R1a-z93 were Yamnaya then logically we’d have these genes in those gravesites and in Albanians today. Both Yamnaya and modern or at least before 30 years ago Albanians are hyper paternalistic.
>>18527500Yamnaya is parent of corded ware. Serbs nowdays still have much more yamyana dna than albanians autosomally>N, Q and R1a-z93N wasnt present in yamnaya but become majority autosomally yamnaya before getting to Hungary in late 1 millenium bc. Q was infact present in yamnaya graveyards confirm it. R1a Z93 is from iranics that were assimilated by slavs. Albanians cannot have it
>>18525127Serbs are only 1% J2b-l283 according to this. They are 10% J2 overall, that means 9% is logically J2a. Or J2b1, not J2b2 which is J2b-l283 when looking at Balkan specific variant found in illyrians. Albanians are 0% J2b1, and 3% J2a. Tosks unfortunately 10% J2a. J2a is not Albanic. Albanic is only R1b-z2108 (Balkan specific clade of R1b-z2103 from Yamnaya), R1b-PF7576, J2b2-l283 and E-v13 because all four haplogroup coexist in the western Balkans since 3000bc. In much the same way that Germanic is only I1 and R1b-U106 which is only found in combined frequency of 60% of nords and less in Germans. But Albanic is 70% of gheg Albanians and unfortunately 46% of tosk Albanians. We can solve these isssues as Albanians though.
>>18527510Blah blah blah, R1b-z2103 and corded ware R1b-L51 are clearly different haplogroup and these two tribes were racial enemies of one another.
>>18527510Q in these gravesites, only 1 I know of and was clearly Botai intermediated as Yamnaya horses were 25% genetically Botai horses. Again, if these genes were Yamnaya Albanians would have them but we don’t despite Albanians being hyper paternalistic.
>>18527519Q1 is rare even in Yamna. But it was found in yamnaya in hungaryhttps://haplotree.info/maps/ancient_dna/samples.php?searchcolumn=Y_Haplotree_Variant&searchfor=Q-M346
>>18527541https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtmlThe Khvalynsk culture is ancestral to the Yamna culture, which represents the Late Copper Age and Early Bronze Age homeland of the Proto-Indo-European speakers. Q1a2 could have travelled alongside haplogroup R1a-Z284 (via Poland) or R1b-U106 (via the Danube) to Scandinavia, or have been present there since the Mesolithic, as in Latvia. Both scenarios are possible as modern Scandinavians belong to two distinct branches of L56: Y4827 and L804. In either cases, all modern carriers of each branch seem to descend from a single ancestor who lived only some 3,000 years ago, during what was then the Nordic Bronze Age.Its ANE hg that got into EHG that mixed with CHG to make yamna together with R
>>18527541So? Even J2b-l283 was rare in Steppe Yamnaya burials but they along with R1b-z2103 and PF7576 went together throughout the Balkans and yet Q did not? It’s because it’s a botai straggler gene. Probably a caste of horse keeping slaves for us.
>>18527548Here’s how it went down likely, botai Q savages conquer the western steppe but the R1b man fights back by learning the horse and domesticated their own horse and combined it with botai horses hence why Yamnaya horses are 25% genetically botai, the J2b-l283 man comes along from the Caucasus and brings the wheel and wagon, they combine forces and defeat botai to such an extent that Yamnaya conquer their homeland in Mongolia, see Afansevo culture. Q, R1b L51 and R1a are just straggler genes, low caste Dalits for Yamnaya. This perfect explains why Albanians lack all of these genes but the Royal Yamnaya genes in high numbers.Q, N, and R1a-z93 are Mongolid and proto slavoids, our racial enemies and slaves. We have nothing to do with them.
>>18527563Whatever you say still not turkish (in case of balkans)
>>18527563You seem to forget that bosses of europe and yamnaya are I2
>>18527574Albanians lack dna of 1st humans of europe- I haplogroup while their autosomal whg component is amost absent
>>18527574>i2Cannibals>>18527575>firstIronically C1 abos google itLook we are racial enemies, us Albanics (yamnaya and farmer) with you. This was set in stone since 3000 bc and it cannot be changed until albanics win in the end.
