Once you go there, no plead will help. Nothing that you say will change the situation. Surely God would understand that you were just stupid, you didn't think things through, it can't be that bad. Imagine being grabbed by the angels, about to be thrown into the eternal hell fire. You could scream for an excuse until your vocal chords exploded and even that would not change the situation. God already has infinite knowledge and he already knew every beg for mercy and every excuse you were going to scream.It's just torture upon torture upon torture, and still just torture. Oh why oh why WHY. That's what you would spend the first year of burning in hell uttering, trying to convince yourself that somehow God will give one last bit of mercy. But it just won't happen. Just suffering, suffering, suffering, suffering, just endless suffering above human comprehension. It's not possible to even grasp how horrifying that is.
>>18525769>Once you go therebelief in after death fantasy lands is heretical nonsense without Biblical supportHell is upon earth just as much as heaven, and you would do well by learning to see the light.
>>18525769Shit thread. Post some cool art instead. I found this painting of Ali done by some Armenian Christian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRNZHFr69t4
>>18525769I've had an NDE and am 99% sure the Egyptians were right about the afterlife. I'd try to ensure your heart is lighter than a feather OP because the Duat is nothing to be trifled with.
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. He died on the cross as a sinless sacrifice for all the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sins. He was buried, then rose again from the dead. One day you will stand before Him, and He will judge you. You can either repent to God by receiving Him and be saved, or reject Him and go to hell for your sins.Rom. 3:23-25: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”1 John 5:7: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”Salvation is by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9, given by God, Romans 10:8 & 17) only in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:8-12) dying in your place (1 Cor. 15:3-4) as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom. 5:1-10). His blood atonement made for you is finished, so if you have received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in your heart, you're forgiven of all your sins and are saved, once for all; finally and forever! (Rom. 8:38-39, Romans 4:5)The gift of salvation can't be earned, it's a gift: Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Rom. 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” Confess The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in prayer, that you trust in Him, not your own works. He atoned for your sins on the cross.www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntcSome evidence examples of the Bible:https://truthischrist.com/seven/fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdf
>>18525769Heaven and hell don't exist. Souls aren't real. Grow up
>>18525769how do you know that
>>18525904Rabbi yeshua did not die on any cross nor he was any god. But a zionist (jewish supremacist) pederast instigator who dreamed of purging the goyim
>>18525904The bible says the earth has a solid dome firmament that keeps water on the outside
If God doesn't understand and forgive human finity, by ergo, he's a stupid and non-loving God.
Why don't most christians/muslims seem to have any issues with an eternal hell? Seems to directly contradict the whole "loving god" thing, and it begs the question of why you're worshipping a torturer
>>18525904What is the strongest reason you believe Christianity is true that does not depend on first assuming the Bible is already the word of God?
>>18525769Oh no not the magic lava, anything but that.
>>18526267Especially when traditionally they believed children went to hell.
I simply ask you to consider what is more likely. That the infinitely powerful creator of all things (who happens to be an ancient caananite deity who incarnated himself as his son to die) is intensely focused on beings who are lesser than him than bacteria are to us, watches their every move while remaining invisible and unknown, and when they die he judges each and every one before tossing most of them into an eternal torture pit. Not vaporizing them, or willing them out of existence, or just not allowing them to exist in the first place, but giving them eternal death forever and ever. Infinite agony to all the ants in his ant-farm that displease him.ORWhen you die consciousness ceases and that's it. You're just dead.
>>18526267I believe in hell because the bible teaches there is a hell, but I am glad there is a hell because if there wasn’t one God would be unloving and unjust.
>>18527039This is etreme mental retardation.
>>18527047God bless you.
>>18527048God doesn't exist, champ.
>>18525769>muh magical fire pitGrow up.
>>18527039This doesn't really answer the question. Why is eternal torture loving?
>>18525769>vocal chords
>>18526347God is revealed to us in the person and work of Jesus Christ. This was attested not only through numerous fulfilled prophecies (https://carm.org/prophecy-the-bible-and-jesus), but also through miracles and ultimately in His resurrection from the dead.Confirmed by prophecy, attested by God through miracles, and risen from the dead to glory, there is no one we ought to trust more than Jesus as to who God is. And Jesus points us back to the Bible and to the one, true God found therein, and confirms for us that the Triune God of Christian Scripture is the one true God. This is how we know who the real God is.If Jesus Christ was speaking the truth every time He spoke about the "scriptures" or the words that He spoke, then it would mean that the One who made the galaxies and star clusters, the nebula and the solar system, the earth and everything on it (including man: Mark 13:19; Matt. 19:4) had placed within man's reach the WORDS He wanted "man" to hear and read (Acts 17:28, 31). It would mean that you and I could find out what was in the mind of God, the One who made the universe, and we could receive instructions from Him in human language ("words") that would tell us EVERYTHING that we really needed to know.It would mean that any man could find out where he came from, what he should do while he is here, what he shouldn't do (or say), how he should prepare for the future, and what his future would be; for as surely as sunrise follows sunset, if any REAL "God" wrote that Book He would be able to tell you and me all of that and more too; the Book contains more than 500 passages that deal with the future: over 10k words.Did He write it? If He didn't, then whoever wrote that Book still had to know more than 500 details about what would take place anywhere from 100 to 3,000 years before it took place.https://truthischrist.com/seven/https://truthischrist.com/elton-anomaly-823543/www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCsPy4CY6hI
>>18527363Jesus didn't fulfill a single prophecy in the old testament, not that it would matter because the old testament is not the word of God.
>>18527364Read from page 343:https://download.timefortruth.co.uk/docs/Christian_Soldiers_Battle_Notes.pdf343 prophecies that Jesus fulfilledThere were many specific predictions made by the OT prophets regarding the betrayal, trial, deathand burial of the Lord Jesus. These were uttered by different prophets during the period from 1000BC to 500 BC, yet they were all literally fulfilled in 24 hours in one person.One verse in every 30 in the NT refers to Christ’s Second Coming. There are20 times as many references in the OT to Christ’s Second Coming as there are to His first Coming. That's why Jesus did not fulfill all of the prophecies yet, it's because the time for God to remove evil from the world and set up rule on the Earth comes later, but the Jews mistakenly thought all of those prophecies would be fulfilled the moment the Messiah appears.>the old testament is not the word of God.But it is. The first advent of Christ was God's verification of the Old Testament (Deut. 18:15-22).
>>18527349It is loving to the victims of the wicked’s crimes.
>>18525769didn't Jesus literally pull people out of hell in the bible?
>>18527378I've read the bible. Jesus did not fulfill any prophecies. It's all a mishmash of various verses (that are not prophecies) mashed together in haphazard ways. Jesus was never alluded to in the old testament, and numerology isn't meaningful. >But it is.No, it isn't. It literally says the earth has a dome, that insects don't have 6 legs, that there was a global flood that never happened, that jews were slaves in egypt which never happened, etc.
>>18527389>t's all a mishmash of various verses (that are not prophecies)Psalm 22:16 "For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture."That Psalm was written about 1000 years before Christ was born. In fact, that Psalm begins with the verse “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” which is what Jesus quoted on the cross. The point is this. The Bible contains prophecy–detailed prophecy about Christ–that has come true. No other book has this.>numerology isn't meaningful.It's not just numerology, it's mathematical impossibility if you look at the links. Come on, what is chance for example that all of the Bible adds up to exactly 7 to the power of 7 on top of all the other sequences. It would have been impossible to do it even intentionally.>insects don't have 6 legsLeviticus 11:20 "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;"https://www.biblehub.com/q/how_do_we_reconcile_lev._11_20-23_with_entomology.htm"The “four legs” reference reflects an idiomatic and functional way of describing insects, distinguishing main walking appendages from specialized jumping legs.">earth has a domeYou mean the the sky? (Genesis 1:6 - 1:8) If I make a Bible "translation" that says that the earth is a triangle using some bogus manuscripts made by gnostics, it doesn't mean the Bible says that. Also, there are evidences of the flood, like fossils of animals giving birth.https://carm.org/why-isnt-there-any-record-of-millions-of-jews-wandering-in-the-deserthttps://carm.org/why-isnt-there-any-record-of-millions-of-jews-wandering-in-the-desert
>>18527389Also, the bibles that are translated from the Alexandrian manuscripts from egypt contain a lot of errors and contradictions. There are examples here: https://kjvcompare.com/There are no contradictions in the KJV, it just so happens it also contains all of these miraculous patterns.If you think there are mistakes in the Bible, you can also check this out and clear up some things: https://nashpublications.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/King_James_Bible/Answers-to-70-Apparent-Discrepencies-in-the-KJB.pdf
>>18527380But you don't get sent to hell for committing crimes, something everyone has done, you get sent there for not believing in God. You could be getting tortured forever without having any victims.
>>18527411See, this is what I'm talking about. Pposting links of apologetics who lie about why the bible is wrong does not stop the bible from being wrong. Not a single link you just posted actually does anything to change the errors in the bible, they just lie about it the try to salvage the errors.>Psalm 22:16 "For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.This is a mistranslation.No, I don't mean the "sky". Firmament doesn't mean sky, no matter how many times you guys try to push that it does. Shamayim means sky, Raqia means dome.>"The “four legs” reference reflects an idiomatic and functional way of describing insects, distinguishing main walking appendages from specialized jumping legs."No, buddy, it says that insects have 4 legs. Not all insects have jumping legs. This is such a retarded attempt.>>18527416>There are no contradictions in the KJVI've literally listed out multiple contradictions and your "argument" is to just deny them>If you think there are mistakes in the BibleBuddy, I don't "think", we can directly see that there are mistakes in the bible. I'll list out even more> Also, there are evidences of the floodNo, there isn't. The flood has literally been mathematically, historically, geologically, genetically, and physically disproved.
>>18527411>>18527416The bible describes the Earth as a flat disk covered by a solid dome, or "firmament," that holds back the waters of spaceThe Bible says the sun and moon revolve around a stationary Earth, which is wrong.The Bible states the earth stands on pillars, which it does not.In Leviticus 11, the Bible categorizes the rabbit as a "cud-chewing" animal. Biologically, rabbits are not ruminants and do not chew their cudThe story of Noah's Ark never happenedThe Gospels mention a Roman census requiring everyone to travel to their ancestral hometowns. Historians note this is never happenedMatthew's claim that King Herod ordered the execution of all infants in Bethlehem lacks corroboration from ancient historiansThe Bible often lists conflicting numbers for the same events across different chapters.The Gospels record different details regarding events like the resurrection of Jesus and the final words from the crossMatthew 1 and Luke 3 trace the genealogy of Jesus through Joseph but list completely different ancestors.Genesis 1 states that animals were created before humans, while Genesis 2 states that man was created before animals.Matthew 27 claims Judas hanged himself, but Acts 1 claims he fell headlong in a field and burst open.2 Samuel 24 says God moved David to number Israel, whereas 1 Chronicles 21 states that Satan incited the census.1 Kings 4 lists Solomon as having 40,000 stalls for his horses, while 2 Chronicles 9 records 4,000 stallsLeviticus 11:20-23 refers to winged insects that "go on all fours," whereas all insects possess six legsArchaeological excavations directed by Kathleen Kenyon and others indicate that Jericho's walls fell centuries before Joshua's traditional timelineLuke 2 dates the census to when Quirinius was governor of Syria, which historical records show began in 6 CE, about ten years after King Herod's death.
>>18527411>>18527416Genesis 12 describes Abraham owning domesticated camels, but archaeological evidence indicates camels were not domesticated in Israel until centuries laterMatthew 13 calls the mustard seed the "smallest of all seeds," though plants like orchids produce much smaller seeds1 Kings 7:23 describes a circular sea structure that is 10 cubits across and 30 cubits around, mathematically implying Pi equals exactly 3.0Matthew 27:52-53 claims that hundreds of people rose from the dead, which never happened.
>>18528150>This is a mistranslation.And I don't think it is.>No, I don't mean the "sky"."And God called the firmament Heaven.">No, buddy, it says that insects have 4 legsIt doesn't say that, it says all insects that have 4 walking legs are regarded unclean (Lev 11:20)>The floodMesopotamian River Floods, The Black Sea Deluge, Ancient Widespread Flood Myths. A Christian has no problem believing an omnipotent God can create a flood that doesn't behave like a naturally occurring flood. So what is scientists can't explain this?>>18528151>The bible describes the Earth as a flatIt doesn't outright say it, Verses like Job 26:10 describe a natural boundary between light and darkness, which isn't possible on a flat surface, and The Bible frequently references the sphericity of the Earth. The Book of Isaiah (Isaiah 40:22) describes God sitting above the "circle of the earth" (or "vault" of the sky), and Job (Job 26:7) famously notes that the earth is suspended "over nothing". Humans have not explored space completely, so you have no proof there isn't a lot of water there.>stationary Earthhttps://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/q7.htm>pillarsJob 26:7 says God "stretches out the north over empty space and hangs the earth on nothing". The pillars clearly don't describe physical pillars that are visible to us that hold the earth up. That's obvious.>Rabbit listed as cud-chewing animalRabbits rechew their food, though the process is not the exact same as some other animals because they poop it out first. "This distinction between simply rechewing partially digested food and rechewing regurgitated partially digested food supposedly wasn’t made until the 1800’s."None of these are contradictions or errors. The only "contradictions" in the bible would be the numbers like you mentioned, but I think there's a good reason why The Bible is the way it is, and rejecting it because you don't understand all of something made by God is a bad reason to reject it.
>>18528390>And I don't think it is.It's known to be>It doesn't say that, it says all insects that have 4 walking legs are regarded unclean Insects have 6 walking legs>It doesn't outright say it,Yes, it does.>Mesopotamian River Floods, The Black Sea Deluge, Ancient Widespread Flood Myths.The vast majority of cultures do not have flood myths.>A Christian has no problem believing an omnipotent God can create a flood that doesn't behave like a naturally occurring flood. So what is scientists can't explain this?No, you just saying "there was a magic flood that can't be proved and the fact that the possibility of a global flood has been disproved doesn't matter to a Christian" is just an admission that the claim is false.>None of these are contradictions or errors. Yes, they are. They're literally all errors and/or contradictions. This is all you guys can do, just be shown direct errors and contradictions and then you just go "nuh uh!"The bible is not the word of God. It is not inspired by God. You're in a cult. It has been disproved. You denying this and pretending it's inerrant will never, ever make it inerrant when we can and do just point out hundreds of errors in it.
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>>18528402>Insects have 6 walking legsYou can google it, or use whatever resource you want. Not all insects have 6 walking legs, though MOST use 6 legs to walk. But I guess you want to believe it's a contradiction no matter what so it doesn't matter.
>>18528645People who are just seeking infinite pleasure in heaven will burn forever in hell
>>18525769>>18529273Honestly if this bullshit is actually true I'd have rather not existed at all.
If this version of Christianity is true and your entire purpose for existing is either to burn forever or to sit around in a cosmic church for eternity then life is literally worthless.
>>18525886>>18529372you ever think about how, according to most popular religions and honestly reality, existence is cruel and yet there are hardly any proclamations against procreatingChristianity at least seems to try to indirectly suggest it but it still shies out of actually condemning it
>>18529386If creating life has a chance of subjecting a person to infinite torture, then the obvious thing to do would be to stop reproducing I guess.
>>18529273you can't even comprehend the main message of that image.
>>18525769because its not real and only some semi-enlightened bronze ager could come up with that.
>>18529394admittedly, this does make me question as to whether hell really is infinite torture because otherwise they would dissuade this and also would put much more emphasis on it in the Bible. the Bible itself is a mixed bag between torture, destruction, possible universal reconciliation, and maybe even something else. not in equal measure, but you can find verses to support just about anything
>>18525769can religous fags get their own stinky board already?
>>18529394What about the chance that person has of being subjected to infinite pleasure?
>>18529383>to sit around in a cosmic church for eternity then life is literally worthless.There are rivers of wine in paradise.
>>18529224Insects have 6 legs champ.There is a whole list of contradictions and errors that were presented. The bible is false.
>>18530095The infintite torture outweighs infinite pleasure. If you don't exist you don't miss out on anything if you do exist you possibly get subjected to infinite torture.
>>18530086They don't want one as their religion mandates them to litter other boards like Indian parasites.
>>18530096I don't drink
