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Could Constantine have known that moving the Roman capital to a geographically stupid location swarmed on all sides by Slavs, Persians and Turks was a stupid idea that would result in the collapse of the West, and the East becoming a weird autocratic state of Romano-Slavic mutts perpetually in decline?
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>>18525875
>geographically stupid location
>on an important trade location
>in an extremely defensible position
>also closer to romes most powerful enemy making it easier for critical news about said enemy reaches the emperor faster and thus react in a more timely manner
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>>18525875
It's one of the best locations ever used for a capital, one thick set of walls defended the peninsula for centuries, it survived the entire rise and fall of the Sassanid empire and Islamic caliphates. After 1000 years of continued civilizational decline it still took the biggest cannons known to man (outside of JP morgan) to take it down.
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>>18525883
kek
>I bet your little Slavic, fish head wife doesn't have these cannons, Sultan.
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>>18525879
>>18525883
>muh walls
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>>18525875
The Empire survived for 1000 more years solely because of how well positioned and easy to defend Constantinople was
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>>18525875
The position is litterally the main reason that Empire lastes over 11 centuries, despite multiple collapses and sieges. Without betrayal from within it was pretty much impossible to take before gunpowder
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>>18525875
>geographically stupid location
One of the centers of all trade in the empire in a highly defensible and central position?
>would result in the collapse of the West
Literally no connection. Constantinople would not became the primary residence of any emperor until Arcadius, the same with Ravenna in the West with Honorius. Earlier 4th century emperors were constantly on the move, their court, and such wherever they were was the defacto capital of the empire.
>and the East becoming a weird autocratic state
Constantine ruled while the Roman state was at its most autocratic. The emperors in the middle ages wished they had as much autocratic power as Diocletian and Constantine did. They became less autocratic as time went on.
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>>18525875
weak bait. sage
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>>18525875
>moving the capital to Constantinople caused the west to collapse
lolwut? You’re confusing cause and effect. The west was already a disintegrating husk of its former self beset by constant barbarian invasions, which is why the capital was moved east to begin with. The empire would’ve died completely in 476 if it had still been centered in Rome
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>>18525875
They should have moved the capital back to Rome when they had the chance
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>>18525875
I mean, Constantinople held out against barbarians way longer than the original Rome, so I'd say it was pretty obviously a better location. Also if you will consult the map there were pretty massive buffers on all sides of Constantinople to protect it in the beginning. All of Anatolia was ethnically Greek before it got Turkified.
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>>18526104
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>>18526193
>all of the empire's territory was overrun by Slavs and Turks within a century or two committing mass rape and slaughter but at least the capital was fine
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>>18526284
Yes. It survived and eventually reconquered most of the Land. That's the whole point of building your capital in a place where its almost impossible to be take by enemies
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>place your capital back into the Rome(which even WRE didn't do)
>Get surrounded on all sides by slavs, germs and arabs
What now genius?
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>>18525875
He knew Rome was an indefensible gluttonous shithole that wouldn't take well to his new religious belief system and he was right it would take nearly 200 years afterwards for Rome to fully Christianize.
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>>18526284
>better for the whole empire to collapse than for part of it to survive!
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>>18525875
wrong map and there no Turks in Constantine era
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>>18525875
>moving the Roman capital to a geographically stupid location swarmed on all sides by Slavs, Persians and Turks was a stupid idea
it was actually a good idea, it allowed the emperor to quickly deploy the imperial army against his main adversaries
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>>18525875
No matter where they may hide, brown greek fascists always lose to white european Turkish civilization.
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>>18527171
Saar?
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>>18525875
>Constantinople was besieged 20+ times
>Successfully defended for a thousand years
>Didn't fall until gunpowder came along
>Atilla the Scourge of God took one look at Constantinople's defences then rode off rather than try his chances
Constantine made a very sound strategic decision to found New Rome where it's located.
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>>18528002
it fell to countless usurpers and the crusaders long before gunpowder.
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>>18527171
Kek, is that Karagöz holding the flag?
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>>18525875
considering constantinople was only taken 1000 years later I'd say this was a pretty good idea
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>>18526284
so what are we talking about then? OP asked about the city, and the city was fine
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>>18525883
This, even fucking Attila the Hun turned the fuck around and left when he saw how big and hard to breach those walls were. OP is a gay retard jeet nigger.
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>>18525875
being retarded isnt something to share.
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>>18525875
You are literally /pol/ poisoned. On top of historically illiterate. Are you retarded?
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>>18528002
>>Didn't fall until gunpowder came along
Nope, it fall somebody open the gate.
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>>18526104
greek capital was besieged 70% of that time



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