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What Ukrainian women looked like in 1909
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>>18526927
or, what the rich daughters of tsarist aristocracy looked like in 1909 while the commoners were illiterate peasants who lived in a one room shack and dressed in rags
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>>18526927
And thanks to jews, the Ukranian people have been utterly destroyed.
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>>18526952
*incoherent bolshevik screeching*
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>>18526927
The bangle looks edited in.
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>>18526952
They looked like this if they were aryan.
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>>18526955
Huh? I thought Ukrainians were Nazis and that's why based Putin had to kill them all?
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>>18526974
they will kill all the russians too
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>>18526974
Ukraine may not strictly be Nazi or Hitlerite but it is Fascist certainly - no elections, glorification of Bandera and OUN-B, corporations run society, workers rights abolished, wanting Donbas for living space and for resources on the land
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>>18526927
Would.
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>>18526974
it's the russian mentality, everyone is a jew and a nazi simultaneously until proven otherwise
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>>18527009
> jew and a nazi simultaneously
To be fair, the most corrupt nation in Europe is uniquely qualified for this role thanks to its total lack of coherent principles.
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>>18526990
Mussolini would be very sad to see what people think fascism is today.
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>>18526974
>Huh?
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East European women are the most attractive creatures on this planet.
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>>18527125
I sometimes wonder if you guys are really this stupid or is this all just shitposting. Do you believe in any crap you find on the internet as long as it's antisemitic?
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>>18527029
Poroshenko (I don’t say Zelensky as he is at least more “cleaned up” in how he handles things) is the most famous Fascist leader of the 21st century and was incredibly open about his corruption. Poroshenko basically was the Mussolini of the 2010s.
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>>18526965
It isn't. This painting just looks recent because the bright color palette gives the illusion of the room being lit with modern LED lights.
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>>18527021
Ukraine is led by an ethnic Jew but it has a very real Fascist militia in right sector as well as those with racialist viewpoints in the population who wish to see Donbas completely exterminated of the Russians living there or else forcibly converted to Ukrainian speakers which is tantamount to genocide. Ukraine may not embody everything Hitler for example stood for but everything that Bandera did. It is more accurate to call them Bandera-Fascists but most westerners don’t know who that is. What we saw in Donetsk in 2014 is pretty much the same as what OUN-B did in Volhynia in 1942.
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>>18527021
Also to St John Chrysostom (one of the key figures in orthodoxy) anyone opposed to Christ and his ideals is spiritually a Jew. Ukraine is spiritually Jewish for everything it does against Russian orthodoxy and promoting separation of church and state.
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>>18526927
>Sinaida_Jewgenjewna
Very kosher name
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>>18526927
She looks like this Jewess
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>>18527241
>Ukraine is led by an ethnic Jew but
Isn't he only a halfu though?
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>>18527246
>if you don't pray to saint putin you're a jew
the absolute state cucktodoxy
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>>18527254
>The surname Yevgenyevna has its roots in Slavic cultures, particularly within Russian and Ukrainian contexts. It is derived from the male given name Yevgeny, which itself comes from the Greek name Eugenios, meaning well-born or noble. The suffix -evna indicates a patronymic form, signifying daughter of Yevgeny.
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>>18526927
cute
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>>18527021
Well most people don't consider Russia european nowadays. I mean, even the polls show most of their basis are global southerners.
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>>18527241
Didn't Spengler predict as both communism and capitalism run their respective courses there will be a raise of something like fascism with caesarist figures leading the exhausted masses to one las push towards civilization survival?
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>>18527193
Nigga that's just the sun.
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>>18527193
>This painting just looks recent because the bright color palette gives the illusion of the room being lit with modern LED lights.
It looks recent because it shows a woman in an informal intimate pose wearing clothes that don't immediately point to a historical period, but on closer inspection (candles, pitcher and basin in the back) we can see that it's at least 100 years old
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>>18527288
1. She's in front of a mirror, not a window.
2. That's not how most artists then drew sunlight and shadows
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>>18526927
1: looks Jewish
2: 99% of Ukrainian women would be toothless stocky serfs
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>>18526974
>jews can’t be Fascist
Uh…..
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>>18527125
>obvious slavic self-aggrandizing fake
>retard posts it
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>>18527873
You're just mad that you don't have unbending psychological and intellectual abilities thanks to your many generations of ancestors.
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>>18527312
1. Mirrors reflect light
2. Shadows cast in the background are going horizontally to the right while the reflected ones are going diagonally towards the bottom left.
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>>18527879
Top left, which in this distorted view would be horizontally to the back.
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>>18527143
>fascism is when corruption
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>>18527241
What happened in Donetsk in 2014
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>>18527129
This, Slavic girls are way cuter than Scandi girls.
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>>18528081
Putin supplied weapons to Donetsk terrorists in March and it became a problem requiring military invervention in April. Since then, a Russia-sponsored civil war.

>>18527241
What a load of horseshit lmao. Bandera was literally sat in a concentration camp during Volhynia, this meme about him being a Nazi collaborator as opposed to exploiting the Nazis is such a litmus test
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>>18528086
>Ukraine and Russia are exactly the same ethnically
Pretty much.
> and culturally.
Not by slavic standards, no.
>linguistic differences are a meme
Russians commonly require subtitles for Ukrainian movies.
>Jewish bullshit to trick whites into killing each other.
And yet, the person who kissed the wall and sent the tanks is a balding Russian goy manlet.

>>18528722
>referendum
What a meme. Even the Crimean "referendum" held at Russian gunpoint was more officially conducted than the Donetsk one.
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>>18528760
>Russia should regain its imperial era borders
Why?
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>>18528722
>Donetsk declared itself an independent “Soviet republic”
> Kiev sent in troops that bombed them and massacred them.
Sounds based.
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>>18528770
Why wouldn't it be in the interest of a westerner to support the enemies of the east?
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>>18528760
>What really matters is the US should never have been involved
The US signed the Budapest memorandum (along with Russia lol), promising to protect Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine getting rid of its nuclear weapons. If you think this agreement should be rendered null, there is nothing preventing you guys from returning nukes to Ukraine and never spending a single cent on it again. Just say the word.

>Russia should regain its imperial era borders/ Malorossiya
Russia can barely keep the regions it already conquered, having to install the loyal brute Kadyrov in Chechnya because they were demanding independence a little too often. It can have more when it manages what it already has.
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>>18528778
The "west" in the context of 4chan is what Russia is today (wants to be). Traditionalist, militaristic, religious and anti-liberal. An "authoritarian democracy".
Que a fashwave tiktok reel feautirng greek statues under a shitty vhs filter.
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>>18528788
>I don’t support Neonazism
You do.
>or terrorism against civilians
You do.

But characterizing the conflict in these terms is so obviously narratively driven it can only resonate with people who are already knee deep in Russian propaganda.

> US doesn’t benefit at all from refusing to allow Donbas to be indepdent
Didn't you just say Russia should regain it? What independence is that?

Also, this guy knows what's up: >>18528800 Russia isn't more virtuous, it tried to become the West and failed every time.
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>>18528800
What is fascism? for 1000
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>>18528809
>The main issue is autonomy for states.
You mean being a part of Russia.
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>>18528809
You mean like the autonomy Ukraine exercised when getting rid of a Russian puppet president? Something rusfags can't mention without seething and dilating?

>>18528812
You're kinda right. Why would a country defend itself against a brutal imperialistic invasion if some American somewhere could get 10% bit richer off of it. That's so not worth it, but it's clearly the correct angle to evaluate this from.
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>>18527125
>slavs are the most unbending people in the world
Funny because the Nazis believed Slavs were weakwilled and fatalistic without their leaders.
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>>18528831
Like I said - nobody's stopping you. Return the nukes, wash your hands and enjoy the money.
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>>18528831
>we in the US vowed to fight the Bolsheviks
No we didn't.
https://pbma.grobbel.org/aide_memoire.htm
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>arguing on 4chan that being a genocidal fascist dictatorship is a bad thing
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>>18528850
The Wilsonian stance would be to change stances.
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>>18528850
>internal dispute
You're only a century off on that one.

>>18528845
You're deployed in Russia?
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>>18528858
>> You're only a century off on that one

You quoted the Budapest referendum enacted by a president I didn’t vote for and I cited a president who wanted a diplomatic line that was friendly with Russia. We can all quote stuff.
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>>18526952
Imagine how good it felt to rape them in the civil war
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>>18528879
>wanting to rape illiterate peasants
settle down tarquin oliver de beaumarchais-wolfington
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>yeah we signed it
>didn't vote for that president tho
What did they mean by this?
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>>18528916
So if Donald Trump enacts a law then it is set in stone? If he enacts a law funding Russia granting peace with them and vowing never to go to war in exchange for nukes we have to live by it?
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>>18528920
No, everything he signs burns up in flames the moment he leaves the office, of course... That's why they have to keep making international contracts from scratch every couple years, it's really tiresome.
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>>18528931
I was joking, obviously the US doesn't re-invent every single contract ever signed when a new president appears. You're not switching kings and divine mandates, you're exchanging a well paid officer, it has no automatic bearing on contracts.

Also, if a dementia patient can reverse your "headway" into an outright war, you never had much progress to begin with. I don't know enough about your guys' blue vs red theatre but I do notice that lots of you people dunk on mainstream media by switching to Russian mainstream media.... That's crazy, Anon. Fighting MSM by embracing more MSM... For example, Russia has been pushing the "muh language ban" fake news for about 20 years and it only gained traction outside of Russia when Americans decided their "alternative news" channels can use some diversity. I honestly can't think of a fake news or misleading narrative that Americans didn't repackage and sell to viewers who needed to feel like they got the "behind the scenes" good stuff.
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>>18528993
It was from watching the historical film in this link that I first learned about the Ukrainian collaborators and Banderites of WWII when I was 19-

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=milHZV5JBx4&pp=ygUXT25pIGJ5bGkgYWt0eW9yYW1pIDE5ODE%3D&ra=m

There are many in Ukraine today exactly like “Kablukova” willing to sell their homeland for a hot meal. The western media doesn’t want you to know about this stuff. Certainly all wwii movies focus on Holocaust and not stuff like Bandera or events in occupied Crimea.
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>>18529009
>Certainly all wwii movies focus on Holocaust and not stuff like Bandera or events in occupied Crimea.
Bandera is another litmus test. Americans can certainly be forgiven for not understanding the eastern bloc, but with this much attention dedicated to that man, one should have found out long ago that he set out to exploit the Nazis for resources. The Nazis certainly found out, placing him in a concentration camp for it. The eastern medai doesn't want you to know about this stuff. Certainly all their headlines do their best to omit most of the story, not even mentioning Russian 2014 oppression of Crimeans who didn't support the annexation.
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>>18529018
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=milHZV5JBx4&ra=m

Watching this film as a kid is what opened me up to the idea that they were lying about Crimea and Ukraine. Crimea was always Russian even under German occupation. If Meshkov hadn’t been ousted in 1995 it would certainly be Russian today.
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>>18526927
>>18527254
>>18527257
>>18527774
She was French in origin, so looks kinda med
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>>18529026
>Crimea was always Russian
Crimea was always ambiguous, neither Russian nor Ukrainian, nor completely Tatar.
I understand that you feel like you found nuance, but you have precisely lost it.
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>>18526990
If you are a western leftist I find your views to be an utterly hilarious sequence of increasingly gymnastic mental maneuvers.
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>>18530383
nta but to be fair, western rightoids aren't much better off
>Ben Shapiro a nazi? Heh he's a Jew lil bro... btw Zelensky is the naziest nazi from naziland
>Trump is about to make peace with Russia, any time now for over a decade... [Russian TV channels fantasizing about nuking the West on prime-time TV]

Americans have gotten so good at re-packaging fractions of facts into narrative packages that I've yet to meet an American with an understanding as accurate as it is precise. It's always a ultra-detailed account of shit that very remotely resembles the situation.
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>>18529026
>Crimea was always Russian
Gothic*
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>ukraine
>in 1909
kek
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>>18529026
>>18530404
it's Genoese and Greek actually
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>>18530404
>>18530791
Rightful crimean tatar land
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>>18529026
>Crimea was always Russian
Russhits are settler colonial invaders to Crimea if anything even Lithuanians have a bigger claim there than russhits
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>>18530881
Are you the one feeding that Albanian anon this nonsense?
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>>18526973
Lol, why do they look so miserable?
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>>18530879
Crimea proper was majority Christian during the Ottoman Era.
https://www.azovgreeks.com/gendb/rus/pdf/chernoff_1.pdf
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>>18529026
>Crimea was always Russian even under German occupation.
..Because before and after it was under German occupation, it was under Russian occupation. There was a long, bloody and chaotic series of wars in Ukraine that wrapped up not 20 years before the Germans showed up which follows a familiar pattern: after their attempts at subversion didn't pan out, the Russians fomented a Russian aligned but nominally independent separatist government in the east and then used hostility against this blatant act of aggression as a pretense to conquer the whole region with the Russian armed forces and bring all of Ukraine back into the fold.
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>>18526927
She's literally of French origin. Her family name is Lansere and her mother came from the Benois family, also of French origin. She never identified as Ukrainian, and the only thing that's Ukrainian about her is the fact that she was born (barely) within the borders of the modern country, which didn't exist in 1884 when she was born and neither in 1909 when she painted that.
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>>18526927
Genuinely incredible painting.



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