>>18527571
We're supposed to love them by telling them the truth that choosing their sin over God will result in their eternal separation from Him and the goodness that flows from Him.

>>18527582
If god/yhwh/allah whatever hates queer people why did he give me sexual attraction towards men?

>>18527585
>If God doesn't want me to steal, why do I get such a rush from shoplifting?

>>18527585
>I desperately want to believe religious people hate me, and I will ignore anything that says different.

>>18527571
>homosexuality
It is a quick way for a people die out, being homosexual or allowing it, and historically most did not.

In fact encouraging homosexuality amongst those you want to destroy has been proven as an effective strategy.

>>18527571
Non-Christian here: In Christianity, there's nothing wrong with homosexual inclinations, it's indulged thoughts and actions that matter. Also, Christians aren't supposed to hate sinners since everyone is a sinner in christianity.

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>>18527571
Every large ancient religion promoted condemnation, separation or death for homosexual anal sex, because that activity spreads disease and makes the mutation of new terrifying diseases more likely. By the exchange of bodily fluids in the anal cavity one directly bypasses the body's natural immune system. It's literally the best and most convenient way to exchange diseases, even more convenient than exchanging your blood with a random other person. An evil demonic God of disease would command his cultists to engage in anal sex with each other and with animals to spread and create new diseases to plague mankind with.

That is why every positive religion, which isn't a death cult or has moved on from being a death cult, discourages homosexuality. Really the best way to deal with them would be just to kill them. Kill anyone, who engages in anal sex. It's just a matter of public hygiene. The poop fuckers, who also fuck animals, have to be eliminated. So yeah any God worth his salt want us to exterminate gay people, or rather gay people who engage in anal sex. There is a reason why nature or God, if you think like that, gave us an intense and hateful amount of disgust, when we witness male-to-male homosexual behavior. He wants us to kill them.

>>18527765
>He wants us to kill
/pol/trannies always fail at pretending to be Christian for more than 5 minutes

>>18527604
That's a legitimate question. Some people (niggers, for example) clearly feel a much stronger impulse to steal than others. So it begs the question, why did God create niggers and nigger-minded folx of other races, if God gets assmad when people steal?

>>18527792
Because we all have the capacity to resist our base impulse and choose not to do bad things.

>>18527794
God clearly makes it more difficult for some people than others. For example, I never had any urge to take it up my ass, but clearly there are men out there who find it irresistable. Niggers and fags got the short end of the stick because God created them with proclivities that He hates, for some reason. So they're almost surely going to hell.

>>18527799
Not defending being gay but you should show this post to your preacher/pastor/priest and see what they have to say about it

>>18527802
If I wanted to talk to a pastor and hear empty platitudes, I'd still be going to church with my grandma like I did 20 years ago. I'm on /his/ talking to anons.

>>18527812
Why don’t you go to church?

>>18527821
I stopped going as a teenager, and then when the supreme court said gays could get married, the church suddenly decided that being gay was actually heckin wholesome and hung a gay flag outside, despite constantly telling me when I was a kid that gays went to hell (as well as people who played pokemon), so there's no way in hell I'd ever go back to that hypocritical retard chamber even if I weren't an atheist.

>>18527831
If you’re an atheist why are you larping as a Christian and talking about God?

>>18527571
Leviticus(where the "love your neighbor" comes from) also has the chattle slavery verses. So regardless of what you think, "love your neighbor" is compatible with a lot of garbage.

>>18527585
Most men have the urge to fuck as many women as possible. Have some discipline.
Also same sex attraction has a very strong correlation with addiction, quit watching porn and jerking off all the time and you'll stop descending into increasingly degenerate fetishes.

>>18527799
It's not God giving them temptations, it's Satan or one of his demons.

>>18527840
I never once LARPed as Christian. Me using Christian theology to have a discussion =/= me claiming to be Christian.

>>18527853
God created satan the way he is. And according to the Bible, God knows you before you're even born, and actively creates you as a unique person in the womb, knowing exactly what will happen throughout your life before it happens. Everything you do was pre-ordained. So if a faggot takes it up the ass at a bath house orgy, God knew that would happen before he was even conceived, and deliberately created him that way in the womb. All according to Biblical scripture.

>>18527799
>God clearly makes it more difficult for some people than others.
There are lower and higher souls in humanity, they're not created equally. And this is also true for atheists. Some people are more spiritual and stronger, and they take more battles in themselves.
>>18527861
>God knows you before you're even born, and actively creates you as a unique person in the womb, knowing exactly what will happen throughout your life before it happens. Everything you do was pre-ordained.
I hope you realize this fatalist way of thinking is the protestant take and it's the root issue of many problems we face in today's world.

>>18527571
nobody improved his life from liking them

>>18527571
You love gay people by pulling them back from the precipice of hell, not by pushing them in.
>>18527585
God didn’t make you a sodomite, your own sins have done this to you.

>>18527585
keep Allah's name out of your whore mouth.
It was Jehovah who made you gay.

>>18527571
You can hate the sin of “gay person.” It’s like saying “porn person.” “Porn persons are people too, we watch porn, but in public, don’t judge us.” No, you can’t put your sexual deviant activities on the outside to identify. It’s bad enough when straight people do it and try to make out in public. We love the “person.” Not the “gay faggot.” One is a person. The other is a sexual harassment that is cursing and a shame and is a walking herald for Muslims and other illegal immigrants because they couldn’t just let American freedom be used for good, they had to turn it into their own desecration of every country on earth.

>>18527585
God deliberately sets up some people, really most people, to fail. People will sometimes try to get around this by acting as if you can just choose not to do things God doesn't want you to do (>>18527792) but God knew when he created you whether you personally would be able to do that or not. Most people exist purely so God can throw them into a burning lake for all eternity. Calvinists are the only ones who accept this, most Christians reject it because it makes God seem cruel and arbitrary.
>>18527841
You don't even need to go to slavery, the same book also tells you gay people should be killed. The actual answer to the OP is Christians use words not to communicate but as tools in rhetorical tricks, which frequently requires they pretend they don't understand what words mean.

>>18527849
I have been attracted to men before I even knew porn was a thing

>>18528355
I'm sorry your uncle molested you.

>>18528355
I’m not that anon, but carnal desires is sin.

Spiritual desires are okay.

I grew up across the lane from the girl who promised to marry me. I didn’t have carnal desires for her, even though I could do that easily. You can intentionally will yourself and even train your brain like a dog to be carnal with any image or anyone.

But spiritually I grew up with her, and therefore have memories of her laughter and screams while my street wasn’t even paved yet from living on the outskirts of the city, still having horses, sheep, and cows and barns. I would tie my bike or eventually an4 wheeler and think of her. We therefore share in *spiritual* likeness, even sharing the same names, and similar family businesses, and ancestry being white, Christian, and European ancestry. Especially Scottish.

This is called not having a boner for your wife. Instead you remember as children and throughout life the things you remember about each other. And the promises you made to marry each other.

My brothers on the other hand, made promises and even pretend weddings with other girls in childhood, but never shared a childhood with them, let alone as next door neighbors. Never seriously dreamed of marrying them after they did it, and never prayed and asked God in the name of Jesus Christ (which is actually the ignition for God to actually cause that to happen), and received that girl as their wife. They would tell you that those people were never taking it seriously with them and they both wrote it off as a game. What matters is of the heart and what you truly believed at the time.

If I said I wanted to have sex with her as my only reason for why I want to marry her for eternity, then my marriage has no spiritual foundation and is only how horny I am training my body to be, which is what all gay love actually is.

I also accepted Jesus Christ into my heart at six years old which is why I accepted my wife at six years old, fully understanding it has to wait till adults.

By the way, the sixth color is by design missing in the gay rainbow. And we don’t like their merchandise they sell. I see gay merchandise sold in stores around Easter for example, like Snoopy / Woodstock / Peanuts Charlie Brown stuff, and it has the Gaybow. Stuff you wouldn’t buy anyway. But it still gets on everything that has a rainbow. They can’t even get God’s rainbow right. God’s Rainbow represents God’s Promises. God always keeps His Word. Keeping one’s Word is called God’s Righteousness. Satan says it’s okay to tell a lie. God said it would cause your sin and death. So the rainbow actually represents purity from sin like faggotry. And God’s Promises that it won’t touch you. The sixth color, indigo, represents spirituality, and heaven. Culminating to seven whole visible colors. Course I can see one whenever I want with my water hose outside, which I do often. Victoriously mine, is God’s Promises which also points to the cross of Jesus Christ.

>>18527571
We are supposed to bend over to gay people.
It resolves the seeming contradiction.
First, that fulfills "Love your neighbour" part.
Second, doing so cause them to sin and go to hell.

>>18528420
I haven't been molested by anyone either, quite hilarious the amount of copium christcucks make

>>18528465
You're suppressing the memories. See a psychologist.

>>18528493
Whatever helps you sleep at night crosstard

>>18527571
Paul says gays won't get into heaven. The jews just said you should kill them.

>>18528493
Your priest probably diddled you didn't he?

>>18527571
Hate, next question

>>18527794
How do you know ?
>>18527849
How do you know?
>>18527853
How do you know ?
>>18527989
>There are lower and higher souls in humanity, they're not created equally. And this is also true for atheists. Some people are more spiritual and stronger, and they take more battles in themselves.
How do you know?
>>18528110
How do you know?
>>18528493
How do you know?
>>18528578
How do you know?

>>18528465
Being attracted to men doesn't matter, these people don't know what they're talking about. The truth is that gays are just maximum misogynists. It's why the gold star gay thing exists. Deep down all gays know they would fuck a woman, the question is do they hate women enough to only fuck men and never even try out pussy. But at the same time it's a verified fact that you can develop an attraction to men at any point by abusing pornography and masturbation.

>>18528660
>How do you know?
we all know that christcucks get molested by priests all the time

>>18527849
The urge to watch porn is a structural issue not a personal responsibility issue. Get rid of single mother welfare and just watch as women are forced to marry to avoid being homeless.

>>18529467
I agree, for the most part, you have to legislate behavior but for those who have become self-aware, they need to take responsibility and work towards getting rid of had habits. "I can't quit because porn is too accessible" just a turbo cope for people who don't actually wanna quit.

What they should really be saying is "Porn shouldn't be so accessible so other people don't end up like me."

>>18529461
Imagine obsessing over pedophilia this much. Granted, its not a good thing at all but I bet you think about kid fiddling at the time speaking like that.

>>18529481
I can't quit because women think I'm creepy and awkward and I'm short. Most of that is out of my control. And my balls need constant emptying or I get volatile.

>>18529488
>Imagine obsessing over pedophilia this much.
Yeah I'm obsessed with hating faggots that raped you. Funny that you're typing to downplay pedophilia, as if being concerned is the same as being "obsessed".

Still think that your local priest raping you was "based and christpilled"?

>>18527989
>I hope you realize this fatalist way of thinking is the protestant take and it's the root issue of many problems we face in today's world.
Exactly. We have free will. God knows what you'll do because he's outside of time, but we are fundamentally free to do as we please.
>>18527861
Not according to any sound exegesis. God is not a slaver who forces faggots to take it up the ass.

>>18529492
Prison will clean you up

>>18529492
There's that immediate refusal to take responsibility.

>>18528420
>>18528493
Where's the actual argument?

>>18527571
There's no such thing as being gay in the way someone is black or short.

>>18529444
I don't hate women, I'm just not attracted to them at all, in fact most of my friends are women

I do hate hetero men tho, despite being attracted to some of them

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>>18527571
“Love your neighbor” is a very very loose way of reiterating the basic maxim of the golden rule. It doesn’t negate having any rules or customs at all in the same way “love your neighbor” doesn’t mean let your neighbor commit acts of violence or sacrilege.

>>18527571
we love people suffering from sinful impulses
"gay" - and the flag - are marching under a banner to take away your kids
pretty simple assuming you are posting under good faith, which gays never do

>>18528493
It would make sense if godjak anon was just repressing trauma from being raped by a priest. If that is the case I would feel bad for him, even though he pretty much non-stop shits up the catalog.

>>18527605
>Just because I turned up to your friends funeral screaming that God hates him and he's burning in hell over the sound of the service, doesn't mean I hate you!

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>>18529605
>muh conversion therapy
We have already got millions of straight guys who are full-blown incels and you think you can/should turn gay folks hetero?

>>18529650
Nice try christcuck but jesus said to turn the other cheek and give your cloak :)
But let me guess that was just a metaphor that akchully means the opposite

>>18531307
Not him but I don’t think so-called “conversion therapy” has merit because it is a would-be psychological solution to a spiritual problem, as I am skeptical of psychology in general. The solution is to believe the gospel of Jesus Christ and trust in God to save you from your sins. The identification with a “gay identity” is itself sinful.

Gay is fundamentally an ideology that is completely at odds with Christianity, and fundamentally used as a tool to undermine it. You can be “gay” without ever engaging in sodomy. Christianity is a religion of orthodoxy, not orthopraxy. Sodomites could very well be saved - Gays are just faggots for the eternal fire.

>>1852758
gay people cannot control their desires, they are not sinful for having these desires in the first place, but they still can avoid acting upon them

likewise some kids are born into poverty, and they cannot control that, not their fault, but they still have a responsibility and free will not to steal from others

some people will have tougher struggles than others, we can’t do anything about them, yet we all have free will and an equal responsibility to avoid sinning

>>18527571
easy, don't be a neighbor to gay people

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"Sodomite" in the Bible doesn't mean "homosexual" because ancient people didn't have a concept of sexual identity like we do today, that's largely a postmodern invention. Ancient people understood sex to either be a dominant or submissive role/action, which is why so many Roman politicians were pederasts and why there is seemingly no ancient discourse regarding lesbian sex (women can't be dominant so it doesn't matter). That's not to say that ancient people were all homos, most people obviously preferred dominant roles as men an submissive roles as women, but the point is that there was no concept of sex as an identity, just a series of preferred roles and actions. Sodomy is considered bad in the Bible specifically because it describes someone trying to undermind the social order by making a superior out to be submissive. The Bible encourages slavery, to be a sodomite was to undermine this master-slave relationship. But none of you retards actually care about Biblical scholarship, this is all about identity politics to you. It simply requires less brain power to resort to cheap Presentisms to make your arguments instead of actually trying to understand the Bible in context. None of you are actual Christians.

>>18532000
That isn’t the topic of the thread. You presented your argument in the context that it was, so you failed to address the topic correctly, and your audience with respect.

So if you don’t respect your audience , then nether will God respect you when it is time for your turn to escape from His wrath. Because he will speak in an incoherent language to you, and you won’t be able to escape.

That is the nature of your judgement and so that is your own curse.

When a child asks you a question, and you don’t address it in their understanding, and you curse everyone else for not addressing it how you want it, without passing knowledge off gently.

Here is one for you. Sodomy is evil because it’s a sin against God. And it’s a sin against God because of identifying as a homo. Not because of masculine pride, even for people in ancient times.

Enjoy that one, faggot.

I can do all things in Christ Jesus. Including answer the question how I fucking want. Fuck you, faggot. I am victorious and you are eating smoke with your eyes.

There is only one dominant master. Jesus Christ.

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I think since we’re midway through Gay Ramadan we can admit that LGBT is a rival and hostile ideology to Christianity, and it rapidly and irrevocably degrades any institution it takes root in.

Christianity literally rewards celibacy. Many homosexuals in the 20th century actually turned to the Church and used their virginity as a virtue. Who are we to turn them away from Christ?

>>18532178
“Homosexual” is an imaginary category of person

>>18527571
Gays aren't going away. Technically this is another mark on christkeks for trying to suppress them for almost two millenia

>>18527571
I read foucalts history of sexuality vol 1 and while I'm retardedly bad at reading philosophy it seems like the christian concept of confession ultimately became the reason we can even speak of things like 'homosexuals' today. You reap what you sow christkeks