Historically speaking, why did third-worldists claim to hate the west when they literally adopted western ideas like republicanism and socialism, adopt western attire like the suit and tie, and brand aspects of their own native culture as “reactionary and oppressive?” Ho Chi Minh didn’t even bother to get rid of the Latin alphabet and restore the previous Chữ Nôm Script.
>>18529181Because modernity has been an extended humiliation ritual for thirdies.
>>18529181Because they saw the only successful non white country to become a great power (Japan) did so by abolishing their own traditional way of life and replacing them with western norms as much as possible
>>18529181Neither Sun Yat-sen or Atatürk were third worldists
>>18529219Sun yatsen was a third worldist. Read his pan asianism speech where he glazes Japan and the newly formed Soviet union as anti-western powers.
>>18529181>TFW you think the existence of a country and ethnic group somehow inherently depends on their submission to inbred dipshits who often have nothing in common with the people inhabiting said country.
>>18529228Also in China they invented republican government with limited power centuries before the Qin. A no-monarchy state literally predates the mandate of heaven.
>>18529181Don't forget they got unequal exchange from the Italian Fascists.
>>18529390When you think about it, Mussolini and co. really were third-worldists avant le lettre
You think nothing is unique about China or Turkey anymore?
>>18529181sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.
>>18529181They were anti-imperialist modernizers.They simultaneously disliked their own countries for their backwardsness that created the conditions that led to the peoples exploitation, and they hated the Imperialist West for taking advantage of their weakness.Also, Kuomintang would not have identified the Qing Dynasty as really an authentically Chinese state, more of a usurper.
>>18529181People forget that left wing non whites sort of also hate their own cultures too and would do as much damage to it as possible to achieve their goals. They hate imperialism but are no conservatives of their status quo.
>>18529295Retarded cope, China was one of the most monarchical places in the world, to the point where despite its vast and established socially mobile systems like examinations and meritocratic bureacracy, no one really tried to establish republics
>Anti-natalism has its (western) origins in Schopenhauer>A properly critical attitude towards "Eurocentrism" was first articulated by Spengler>Unequal exchange originated among the Italian fascists>Postmodernism starts with NietzscheDo post-war leftists have any original ideas or do they just bastardize far-right thinkers for their anti-life agenda?
>>18530027Read up on where the term 共和 comes from
>>18529683Considering they abolished their monarchy and branded their actual culture as “reactionary and oppressive”, I’d say yes
>>18530354>their actual cultureManchu Qing slavery isn't culture
>>18530474But the institution of monarchy is
>>18530508Institution of monarchy was also Roman tradition, until it wasn't
>>18529181Sun Yat-sen's most famous work immediately identifies how China is different from prominent Western countries >My statement that the principle of nationality is equivalent to the doctrine of the state is applicable in China but not in the West. For the reason that China, since the Ch'in and Han dynasties, has been developing a single state out of a single race, while foreign countries have developed many states from one race and have included many nationalities within one state. For example, England, now the world's most powerful state, has, upon the foundation of the white race, added brown, black, and other races to form the British Empire; hence, to say that the race or nation is the state is not true of England. We all know that the original stock of England was the Anglo-Saxon race, but it is not limited to England; the United States, too, has a large portion of such stock. So in regard to other countries we cannot say that the race and the state are identical; there is a definite line between them.Later on he compares Western individualism with China's predisposition to organization around families and clans and how the latter must be an important feature in China's modern nation building.So the meme is stupid and wrong.
>>18530354Monarchy wasn't the culture of the people. It was the culture of a very tiny, often times foreign, elite.
>>18529181Once these groups seize power there is no longer a need for their turbo rebellion rhetoric. When asked "are you really going to teach millions of people to use 𡨸喃 to stick it to the Chuds they say "oh yeah, that, uh.. nah".An analogy might be Caligula dressed as a plebeian walking the streets of Rome and laughing at an actor satirizing him. When you have uncontested power the humiliation rituals lose all meaning.
>>18530628The culture of the elites is the culture of the country
>>18530752So every American should be celebrating pride month and juneteenth. It's their elite culture.
>>18530756Yes
>>18530768And yet we don't
>>18530752>heh here's an epic definition that makes my case for me (please ignore that it's total nonsense)Why do so many threads come down to this? You know nobody will agree with this position and you don't even explain why someone should accept this definition when the colloquial usage of culture is clearly much, much broader.
>>18530774He already got BTFO so his strategy is to double down on retardation.
>>18530774he's just testing it out. its pure vibes, as usual, but he's unsure if it's gonna fly anywhere, so better try first. many such cases.
>>18530774Older = better. The elites are the traditionalists
>>18530789So is Christianity the proper tradition for Europe, since it's the one everyone practices. Or is Roman paganism the true tradition since it's older.
>>18530787Oh okay, then he should say the best form of a culture is elite culture or something like that.
>>18530793Roman paganism
The Young Turks were literally created by the Freemasonic Macedonian Risorta of the Italian obedience.Masons did literally all of the nationalist uprisings of the 19th century, worldwide.Especially the Italian one.
