Would he still be hated if he hadn't done the holocaust?Would people, besides neo-nazis, admire him?
>>18529552sending all the jews to go live in hell, removing satan's synagogue from christian lands, establishing a jew state in the middle east and involuntarily deporting all jews there... that was Hitler doing God's good work.
>>18529552no, he would still have been a nasty dictator who started a massive war, committed a ton of war crimes, lost and ruined germany.there isn't a single positive contribution you can point to of his.
>>18529554>establishing a jew state in the middle eastThat was Stalin
>>18529569its probably safe to assume everyone wanted to send the jews to hell
>>18529552Governments of nations he invaded would obviously still see him as evil.
>>18529559Napoleon did all the same shit, and yet normies and “scholars” love him
>>18529552Probably>>18529554>sending hebes to the holy land is... le good!Mazel tov!
>>18529569That was in the Far East, not the Middle East
>>18529655He actually created both Israel and JAO. Truly a visionary
>>18529628This.I'm tired of Redditors lionising Napoleon, who was just a power-hungry monster at the end of the day>inb4 muh Code NapoleonA lawbook isn't worth millions of deaths, it's not even worth 20 deaths
Neo-nazis often seem to delude themselves into thinking that people only dislike Hitler for jew-related stuff, but come on, even if holocaust never happened, he’s still responsible for millions and millions of deaths through war and occupation.There’s literally no reason to like him unless you’re some German national supremacist, and even then I’d question liking him because he bit off more than he could chew and ended up getting the country occupied and split.
>>18530019I would say that the Allies are responsible for that since they pushed Germany into a total war instead of looking for a peace deal.
>>18529552travel through south america and western and central asia and youll see that people still love him
>>18529628Sorry Napoleon never industrialized the killing of civilians like Hitler did in the Holocaust
>>18529652Land isn't holy, that's idolatry, and yes forcing all jews to live together in hell is good for the whole world.
>>18530100The Allies were only responding in kind to a war Germany started.
>>18530167But Hitler did offer pretty generous surrender terms for Poland? Not to mention that Germany did try to solve the Danzig problem via diplomacy.
>>18529628you have the same history knowledge as a slum dwelling pajeet.you are subhuman.
If he hadn't done the holocaust, the Jews would make one up anyway
>>18529552He would still be hated if he had just deported them all. But people wouldn't see him as the most evil man on Earth who has ever lived. Neo nazis would admire him just the same I think. They are mostly driven by hatred of blacks (in the US) and immigrants from the middle east (Europe). It's more the ethnostate thing than the jew killing.
>>18529552>Would he still be hated if he hadn't done the holocaust?of course not, the jews would never lie about anything.
>>18529628Napoleon wasn't loved by anyone outside of France. He was a controversial name that bongs and other European empires treated like the name 'Hitler' today. It was synonymous with tyranny and political ambition.
>>18530417To be fair, Poles and Jews celebrate Napoleon for liberating them and hate Hitler for obvious reasons. Hitler is kind of like the anti-Napoleon
>>18530172>solve the Danzig problem via diplomacy.Give me the land or else it is war isn't exactly a diplomatic solution
>>18530172Hitler wasn't exactly seen as the most trustworthy guy at that point.
>>18529628Quick question? Professor Moriarty is the <what> of crime?
Gaydolf Shitler was a British spy, working for international Rotschild capitalist banksters
>>18529552Yes, possibly not as much as he is now. But more or less the same, he did a lot more than just the Jew thing.Probably not, he'd have to have left some meaningful legacy.>>18530417Napoleon had a large cohort of fan-boys during the nineteenth century, though. In and outside of France. More or less as large as his haters.
>>18530964He didn't ask for that, look up the 16 points, they were fair.>>18531203He had not broken an agreement. I like how some people try to use the Munich agreement to say he was untrustworthy but you just have to look what's actually written to see he didn't actually break it.
>>18531270tranndolf gaytler choked on cyniade while Red Army heroes had fun with nazi whores in Berlin, 500 metres from his cuck chair, be aware of this fact every minute of your life
>>18531270>point 1. The free city of Danzig shall join the German ReichSo he did ask for the land. What right did Germany have to demmand land from a soverign nation and if said nation refused it is war? That is more of a mugging than anything.
>>18529552The more interesting question is how the Allies would ideologically shape the post-WW2 world if there were no Holocaust.Probably stuff like Frankfurt School, Popperism, New Left, and various other leftist and liberal trends wouldn't really exist, and bigotry would be more widely accepted. Nazism wouldn't be looked on as a metaphysical evil but it would still be decried because of warmongering. However processes like decolonization, desegregation, mass immigration etc. would still occur because of the Cold War and economic conditions
>>18531383It was a free city with it's own government which didn't belong to Poland.They themselves wanted to join back into Germany.
>>18531291>Red Army heroesThey had fun killing Poles and putting their own kin into Gulags.
>>18531270I'm sure if Germany and Poland came to some kind of an agreement for Poland hand over the Corridor, a later German invasion of Poland wouldn't have broken that agreement.
>>18531390>The more interesting question is how the Allies would ideologically shape the post-WW2 world if there were no Holocaust.The Holocaust was already swept under the rug for decades after WW2 in na effort to make reintegrating a re-armed Germany into the West less awkward.The ceaceless exploitation and jerking off over the Holocaust is a relatively recent phenomenon.
>>18531509Point 15 would have that covered for the short term at least.
>>18531473based, death to facists kraut and polacks
>>18531270> I like how some people try to use the Munich agreement to say he was untrustworthyThis is because the agreement was agreed to with the explicit understanding that after being granted the Sudetenland Germany wouldn't go ablut taking over any more of their neighbours. The text of the agrement itself is merely a confirmation and a guide on the transfer of territory. It's fine if you think that publically expressed intentions are irrelevant, but you shouldn't then wonder why people might be hesitant to deal with you.
>>18531570Can you explain why they didn't formalize that into the agreement if it really was expressed like that and seen as a condition?
>>18531576Because they were retarded.
>>18531519I think it began in the 70s
>>18531612Probably but it didn't reach its height until later.
>>18529628Yeah well I don't like him so.
>>18530121>>18530019The fact that boomers were shocked by the Holocaust, i.e. mass murder is because they had sex and romantic relations and this made life worth living for them.Nowadays people don't care anymore, you live alone and unloved, get rejected by women a lot, and then at 30 it's basically over anyway.
>>18531763It's all about sex isn't it?
>>18531767Sex is how you and I got here
>>18531767It is, yeah. Notice how when people insult each other they always go for sexual stuff first, because it stings the most
>>18529552>Would he still be hated if he hadn't done the holocaust?This is already the case
>>18530019>he’s still responsible for millions and millions of deaths through war and occupation.Nope, you're thinking of Churchill, Roosevelt, and other Zionists
>>18532182Reddit gold.100 Wholesome.
The holocaust happened. It was well documented. They confessed.. The moral of the story is that inside every Timmycel there's a hitler waiting to emerge and kill 6 million jews for no reason.
>>18533306>for no reason
>>18533326NTA but the reason is probably above your head because it involves the gradual radicalization of an entire country over several decades in order to create a boogeyman to further populist policy and consolidate power. The 6 million were just the Jews mind you, a total of 11 million died in the Holocaust if we include the other minorities that were involved
>>18529552The holocaust’s relevance in pop history is actually much more recent than people think, so yes he would still be hated.
>>18529628Because Napoleon had an army of libtard propagandists behind him while Hitler has an army of commie propagandists against him.
>>18529628Napoleon gets a pass because he was a better military strategist than Hitler was
>>18533349The entire poltard>hahaha why did you choose to fight for j00s you retardsnarrative falls apart when one realizes that basically nobody gived a shit about the Jews in western Europe or US when the WWII started or was raging on, yet people still saw Hitler as a satan incarnate. Which is hardly surprising when you look at it from European perspective, when you have a continent-conquering dictator munching up your homeland, Jews understandably aren’t very high up on your list of concerns even if you knew what was happening to them (and basically nobody did know).
>>18533331Yes, all dark skinned persons need to go back.
>>18533382you will never have a real ethnostate
>>18533331>I'm so smart you probably won't get it it requires a bunch of explanation and eventually you'll lose focus on my unrelated tangent that nobody cares about and give me control of your opinion because I sound smartYeah, I don't get it. Were the jews doing what they were accused of? Did making them stop make it better in the way Germans wanted it to be at least for a while?
>>18533405Why is it that only light skinned persons aren't supposed to have racially homogeneous states? Nobody seems to care when dark skinned nations are racially homogeneous, seems hypocritical.
>>18533362People who couldn't speak German and didn't live in Europe hated hitler because they... read the newspaper? The Jewish newspaper? Wow.
>>18529552>Would he still be hated if he hadn't done the holocaust?Yes. He started the largest war in human history and killed tens of millions of people
>>18529569UN partition plan created Israel
>>18529628WW2 is still recent history
>>18530019>There’s literally no reason to like him unless you’re some German national supremacistGerman nationalists especially should hate Hitler since he blamed Germans for losing the war and ordered the destruction of Germany in 1945
>>18533428They love to partition history. People who did acts of force and violence before a certain era were okay but violence became immoral and not a legitimate tool of power after they won. Somehow hitler who grew up in the 19th century and served in ww1 should have been neoliberal and gay like them.
