Historically speaking why did the British working class develop such a violent and distinctive culture compared to continental europe?While the continental working classes were mostly subdued and servile the british working class was historically brutish and violent and gave us boxing, football hooliganism, etc.
>>18531520The old working classes in Spain, Italy and France were also violent, rebellious, rabble (specially in France, famous for it's constant protests), what happened is that they were also far more politically motivated than the british, who had more stable politics, and so after the destruction of the world wars or civil wars, as said countries were rebuilt from the ground up, they defanged them.
>>18532812Paris prior to Napoleon III's gentrification of the city was an infamous slum shithole that resembled Mumbai.
>>18532812>>18532814But why did the lower classes of those nations never develop extremely violent bloodsports like boxing and hare coursing and rough and tumble fighting like anglos did?
Meanwhile in Northern Ireland. Yeah I know whether it's "British" or not is debated but those islands do seem like a historically more barbaric part of the European continent. Idk why either, but am reading a book about the American Revolution and the author (Robert Middlekauff) made a note that the frontier was settled by a lot of fighty, stabby types from the British Isles who continentals looked at as relatively backwards.https://youtu.be/FM4_ke4YELI
>>18531520The descendants of cattle herders do have more aggressive characteristics, than the descendants of farming societies. Yes, I'm aware all ancient cultures had both, so it's important to note the higher rates of herdsmen.Cattle herders had to be strong to keep people from stealing their cattle. They had to be viciously territorial to defend their land. They were semi-nomadic, but it was a job where you had to project strength and ability to defend yourself and the herd from outside threats.Farming grain/fruit/veg didn't require the same type of aggression, but it required a more docile nature for doing repetitive and tedious tasks. Most of the rednecks in the US came from herders in the North where the land wasn't really ideal for farming. Scotch, Irish, Brits, etc. It was much more dog eat dog, so strength was important.
>>18532814In fact, it's still mostly a slum not that far away from Bombay, outside of the 1st Arrondissement (the central part of Paris that Napoleon III cleaned up). Any time you see a pic of Paris landmarks, they're all in the 1st Arrondissement. Outside of that, it's little Africa. It's basically exactly like Washington DC in that respect.
>>18533352Then how come until mass migration ireland was one of the most peaceful societies on earth? Ireland from independence till the 90s was practically crime free. Compare this to somewhere like the north of england which has always had huge amounts of violence even before mass migrationThere is something in the water in northern england/some parts of the scottish lowlands that make it incredibly violent.
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>>18533352The upper class are cattle herders. The rest are grain-fed cattle.
>>18533461>Ireland from independence till the 90s was practically crime freebecause it was an impoverished shithole literally everyone under 40 was emigrating from lol>durrr why are retirement homes peaceful?
It's the exact opposite, the British commoners were notoriously docile all the way into modernity, the rugged characteristics of the British populus were entirely a compensation mechanism for the fact that they were so extremely non-violent. Even as late as modernity with the radicalisation of the world wars era, the world was in shock when the 1923 General Strike - an unbelievably massive social force - was called off by its leaders because they simply didn't want to stir the pot, even if they could have feasibly launched a revolution. And what is more, the labourers obeyed their instructions and... went home.
>>18534333Because british society was better to live in than anywhere else
>>18534365True.When British Navvies were hired to do navvy work in France their employers were shocked as to how much stronger and more efficient their British workers were than the French.Part of the reason for this is that the British Navvies woke up and ate huge servings of beef at breakfast and all throughout the day while the French workers ate cabbage soup.
