At what point of history greeks decided to finally stop larping as romans?
1800s to appeal to brits
>>18531635 greece already had its own rich and beautiful ancient civilization that even influenced the romans greatlythey didn’t need to larp as romansthat’s the job for anglo-germans, iberians, and slavs
>>18531647and yet byzantrannies keep crying if you call them byzantine and insist on saying "ERE" or even "the medieval roman empire" (lol)
Greeks decided to larp as ancient greeks instead with their pitiful amount of ancient greek dna
>>18531635Most of the Greek ancestry rhetoric comes from the 13th century in Nicaea, which is where modern Greek identity is descended from. It remained an elite identity until the period around the Greek revolution, and wasn't uncontested ass there was a Roman party that rejected the identification, they lost considering those championing Greek identity got a state, and they were still living under the Ottomans.
>>18531635There were still Romans in Lemnos about 100 years ago. The Ottomans had no problem with the rightful identification of Christians as Romans. It was always the butthurt West that cried about it for 500 years.
>>18531663Polytheists and idolaters aren’t Christians
>>18531635Rome was always Greek. The West just seethes because they know their ancestors were Barbarians who mistook the slave tongue as prestigious instead.
>>18531647>they didn’t need to larp as romansBut they did for 1000 years.
>>18531683>Rome was always Greek.Tell that to a real roman and he would kill you on a spot.
>>18531635It was initially ressurected by Nikaea (their official name was intentionally choose as "Hellas"). Then the early Palailogos took over and pivoted back to the Roman LARP for well over a century.It finally returned to stay with the end of the 14th Century together with many other cultural influences from the Catholic west, and it was sanctioned by both the pro-Catholic last Palailogos and by the Orthodox Church: albeit for opposite reasons
>>18531663Turks had a convenient reason to claim the people they defeat, conquered and rules as slaves for centuries were supposed to be le epic ancient Roman Empire Muhammad predict it would had been conquered by Allah's chosen Champions. It was the main core legittimacy claims of their Caliphate
>>18531635They never officially did, but I don't think it's a coincidence that in the Empire of Nicaea they started talking about themselves as Hellenes again, instead of Romans and they also for the first time supported their Warrior Aristocracy and the small land-owning soldiers in Asia Minor, because the perfidious Elite of the Capital wasn't there to plot against and undermine them. With these warriors they instantly turned the tide, secured the frontier and doubled their territory in Europe by going on a huge conquest spree. But sadly this all ended, when they let the old Elite survive without a purge and stripped Anatolia of everything to rebuild the capital.
>>18531663Muzzies are too low IQ and enabled the greekjeet larp
>>18531635why was this only the "so called" roman empire to you?
>>18531835Because it was called roman but actually wasn't.
20th century, late 19th
>>18531635Istanbul Greeks called themseves Roman untill the relocations after Greek-Ottoman war, so then it'd occur the ultimate victory of Hellene identity
>>18532779>called themseves RomanI called them larping clowns or slave mutts
>>18531659mhm mhm
>>18531890Roman citizens however
