Am I really a Christian if I've mostly been attracted by the more harsh political and social aspects of Christianity (such as the rigorous sexual morale), and less to the meek aspects like forgiveness and love (which I'm not particularly fond of)? Or am I a confused man who sought to find in Christianity the salvation of white Europe, but found that it's a different thing to what it was in the past? I'm Protestant, by the way.
>>18532610sounds like you'd be better suited to an orc religion like Islam bro. You'll even get promised an afterlife where all your base bestial desires will be sated, you'll get 70 virgins and drink from fountains of wine!
>>18532610I've always respected the "fire and brimstone" Christians as the true Christians, the ones who really believe most of the source material.These new nondenomination peace and love Christians are revising biblical teachings so much, that they may as well just disavow it all entirely.... but they still feel obliged to be Christians out of fear.I'm not Christian at all, but I can always respect the zealots of any cause. Fervent belief is a beautiful thing. The new "revised" Christians do not fervently believe, they're just ideological cowards on every level. They disavow most of the Bible, yet they're too chickenshit to abandon it altogether and find a different philsophy/religion that suits them better.
>>18532610If you don't love thy neighbour as yourself, are you really a Christian? There are other options for more controlling religions.Since you're shopping around, you might as well go for a good fit, not just whatever is trendy right now.
>I'm protestant>posts crusader Haha, wow.Epic self own.Anyways you are obviously very confused and your motivations are not in the right place.Harshness is an important part of Christianity for sure and it's one that is sadly neglected, but the purpose of the religion is not to "save the white race". It is a faith for all kinds of men.Yes, Christianity can save Europe. But Europe would want to be saved, they mostly do not. Many such cases, it other continents.If you actually care about European unity prottism really is *not* the ticket man.
>>18532898>If you actually care about European unity prottism really is *not* the ticket man.you can go Catholic and become Mexican or go Prot and become black which way Euro man
>>18532610I mean big Jeezy was pretty clear that the world was going to end and that you had to get all your affairs in order and be ready to go out with a heart of kindness for those that persecute you as they're just fallible men.It was never a warrior ethos. None of the Apostles were warriors.
>>18532610>Am I really a ChristianProbably not, because most people worship a devil instead of recognizing that the bodily of Christ is the one true living God.
>>18532610>Am I really a ChristianProbably not, because most people worship a devil instead of recognizing that the body of Christ is the one true living God.
>>18532898The Crusades precede the Reformation, so why would they be a denominational issue for Protestants?
>>18533046Anon... The reformation was a reaction to things preceding the reformation...... Prots do NOT believe that the catholic church only stopped being the one true church during the reformation............
>>18533142Traditionally, protestants DO just that
>>18532663There's no alternative, reallyPaganism is deadChristianity is my ancestors' religion
>>18533046Literally indulgences were attached to service in the crusades.>>18533165No they don't.
>>18533165Luther condemned the Crusades actually. Like, the Pope personally caused the Crusades to happen. All of them. As in, it was accepted by literally everyone that the Pope alone had authorized the expedition.Protties want to say they were DEUS VULTing with the rest of Christendom, LARP all that, but it's simply inaccurate and no prot ever helped out the Knights of Malta out against the Ottomans.Much the opposite in fact, they actually helped the Turks on many occasions. And the Turks likewise supported prots, since it divided Europeans against one another and made conquering Christian lands easier.The "reformation" critically divided Christian Europe against one another and severely hampered their ability to fight back against the Ottomans.Lepanto was not a protestant adjacent victory. It happened despite them.The news of a Catholic victory in that legendary battle was received with some trepidation and dismay by a great many prots as a matter of fact, rather than celebration. Because it meant the villages along the western coast of the Mediterranean would be saver from slave raids in the future. And nobody wants that, consignment to be harem and galley slaves was supposed to be God's chastisement against the anti-Christ and his evil minions.Basically the Turks were laughing out loud watching prots totally sabotage Christendom for them. Literally Queen Elizabeth had her spies informing the Turks man.
>>18532629Jesus preached both fire & brimstone and peace & love. Those who do not love others will be the ones condemned to hellfire.
>>18532610You are a huge fucking gay CHUD
>>18532610You don’t need Christianity to think fags and whores are gross anon. Every religion that has existed for more than 400 years comes to the exact same conclusion about them.
>>18533337Nah, ancient pagans were uniquely accepting of crossdressing, sex change operations involving castration, and homosexuality in general. Even if it they carried a certain stigma among more conservative types.Just read what Philo of Alexandria has to say on it, in his commentary on the Special Laws book 3 starting at line 37.He strongly condemns this trend which in his time would have been seen throughout the cities of the Greco-Roman world. The cults of Cybele and Atargatis were known for this, as well as certain Scythians.
>>18532629>new nondenomination peace and love Christians The ancient disagreement between Marcionites/Gnostics and orthodox Christians never left. It's hard to believe in a God who is the essence of altruistic love and who commands his followers to love their enemies, but who, at the same time, for his own part, prefers to subject his enemies to eternal torment. If you want to do your best to follow the standard of behavior outlined by Jesus in many places, it's easier if you believe that he's a god who really does follow that standard of behavior himself.
>>18533142They don't condemn everything that happened prior to the Reformation, though
>>18532610Why not just be a Muslim?
>>18532610If you believe Christianity is political, you have no clue what is the meaning of the word.
>>18532610A Bible-believing Christian believes that you receive salvation not because of anything you have done, but because of what Jesus Christ did for you on the cross. If it was not yours to earn (Eph. 2:8- 9), then it is not yours to keep (Phil. 1:6). But that is by no means a license for a Christian to sin. The Lord will take vengeance on a Christian for his sin just the same as a lost person (Rom 3:5). He just won't send him to Hell.A sinning Christian can lose his fellowship (1 John 1:6-7), his testimony (1 Cor. 8:7-13; Gen. 19:14 cf. 2 Pet. 2:6-8), his service (1 Cor. 9:27), his rewards (2 John 8; 1 Cor. 3:15), his health (1 Cor. 11:29-30), and even his physical life (1 Cor. 11:30, 5:5); but never his salvation.If you believe you receive salvation or any kind of justification from God's wrath because of what you have done, whether it is what you think, do, like etc. Then the world might say you are a Christian, but you are part of the world because you are not in Christ, because you have rejected the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour. Do be saved from hell, you need to be in Christ. No man is in Christ until he has received Christ.All of God's love, in this age, is vested in the righteous life and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Apart from Christ, God loves no man (John 3:16; Rom. 5:8); apart from Christ, the sinner abides in God's wrath (John 3:36)Salvation is by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9, given by God, Romans 10:8 & 17) only in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:8-12) dying in your place (1 Cor. 15:3-4) as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom. 5:1-10). His blood atonement made for you is finished, so if you have received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in your heart, you're forgiven of all your sins and are saved, once for all; finally and forever! (Rom. 8:38-39, Romans 4:5)www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntchttps://truthischrist.com/seven/
>>18532610crazy how people waste most of their life pondering over dumb ass questions from a made up religion just they were told god was real as children
>>18532610Are you trusting in Jesus' finished work on the cross for your salvation?>>18532629>>18532663Enjoy Hell.>>18532898You're brown. Have fun burning.>>18533676You're retarded. See you in heaven.
>>18532610>Am I really a Christian if I've mostly been attracted by the more harsh political and social aspects of Christianity (such as the rigorous sexual morale), and less to the meek aspects like forgiveness and love (which I'm not particularly fond of)?THAT WOULD MAKE YOU A BAD CHRISTIAN: IT IS NOT ONE, OR THE OTHER, BUT BOTH.>Or am I a confused man who sought to find in Christianity the salvation of white Europe, but found that it's a different thing to what it was in the past?CHISTIANITY IS UNIVERSAL, NOT EUROCENTRIC, NOR ETHNOCENTRIC; ETHNOCENTRICISM IS, ACTUALLY, ANTICHRISTIAN.>I'm Protestant, by the way.THAT EXPLAINS IT: YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIAN.
>>18533761Hi shitskin.
>>18533657it's the religion of the enemies of my people... founded by a pedo warlord...and very low iq>>18533667it's, first of all, a connection from the almighty God to human. What follows from that connection is changing your viewpoints on politics>>18533761I'm not ethnocentrist I think...I believe all peoples should be saved (even jews), but they should continue existing as seperate peoples
>>18534869>[...] but they should continue existing as seperate peoplesTHAT IS AN ETHNOCENTRIC TENET.
>>18532610>Am I really a Christian if...Whether you're really a christian depends on if you put your faith in Christ and follow his teachings, not on what part of them you like the most. >I'm Protestant, by the way.Should have opened with that. No, you aren't a christian, and I'm not surprised you doubt yourself.
>>18534951Keep stoking those flames! :D
>>18532610You are Calvinist, like me. Austerity, modesty and sacrifice above all. Good. Not an innovation of Calvin in any way, the old desert fathers were like that, so was John the Baptist, so was Paul. But it's not the way of Jesus, Peter or James. Why did Jesus say you better spend this expensive oil on me, you will always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me? Why did Peter and the disciples bring their wives on luxury cruises to Greece to get wined and dined, when Paul worked day and night in order to avoid inconveniencing the groups he founded there? He never accepted any money from his followers except to bring it to the poor in Jerusalem as promised to James.This is a dispute at the heart and core of Christianity, right from the first days. Austerity and self-sacrifice versus prophecy and power. Here is man's character laid bare.
>>18532610Orthodoxy isn't different from what it was in the past.As St. Paul put it, the body of the Church is made up of different parts. 1 Corinthians 12:12-27God can use your rigor to build his Kingdom. That said, part of becoming fully human is to embrace other aspects as well. Even the pagans recognized that with the story of Achilles, the warrior who eventually shows mercy to his enemy.
>>18535013>the old desert fathers were just like Calvinlmaodelusional prottie cognitive dissonance is so pricelessle actually we were the hecking monks and crusaders the whole time, dirty papists can only wishCalvin absolutely hated the cloister, and all forms of monastic lifethe desert fathers would have identified him instantly as a despicable hereticCalvinism, and the myriad counter-churches advocating for this colossal error of endless division and continually reiterated separation, are creations of modernity and are not truly rooted in the apostolic faith which Christ deposited in his one church
>>18532610>i need a jew book to stop fapping
>>18532610You are meant to be a person that others see and go "This is a Christian. I want to learn more about his God".But also, you'll never achieve this if you base self on hate now love. I am friends with a priest who's a fighter and he was a skinhead and he is a lamp filled with love even if he is still aggressive/harsh. You can be a chud but you gotta be a chud from a position of love, because:Literal God ->love neighbour as self>be a lamp/salt of earth, shine for all>>18533013Warrior ethos is for sheltered faggots who never saw how ugly and honorless real fighting is. It's a thing invented by soft people born in peace time that romanticizes fighting.
>>18532610>political ChristianityYou're not Christian.
