Buddhists still haven't recovered from getting BTFO'd by Leo.
>>18532655Rich coming from the church who canonized people for being ascetics
The first r/Christianity Pope.This fucking midwit is a disgrace.
>Buddhists still haven't recovered from getting BTFO'd by L-ACK
>>18532655Does he ever feel silly, wearing that magician costume and holding that blood sacrifice magic staff?
>>18532720It's not magic broooo....it's miracles. It's not worship, it's veneration
>>18532720Why are you behaving so protestant-like?
>>18532655To eliminate suffering would put all christkeks out of a job
>>18532655Western Man is mentally ill on the most fundamental level. All Western values, thinking and ambitions are morbid and stem from the need of a tiny psychopathic cabal to be served by millions of golem slaves.
>>18532655>muh free will>muh soul>muh love>you have to suffer if you love because God o algoThe west is mindbroken. Christianity is a life denying transhumanist cult
>>18532827>a life denying transhumanist cultThat's civilization for ya.
>>18532827>Christianity is a life denying transhumanist cult>anyways let’s kill babies and transition into women and give ourselves robot arms like in epic capeshit movies
>>18532829>if my kiked religion is bad how come its kiked consequences are also bad
>>18532698/thread
>>18532720>Does he ever feel sillyWhy would he, when that "silly" attire bestows upon him unconditional respect by millions and major world leaders?
>>18532717Qrd? Who is this?
>>18532947Why would the emperor feel any shame as he parades without his clothes?
>>18532655pope is a pedo
>>18532655Acting like an antichrist again, trying to throw brothers against brother? Don't you realize you gain nothing doing that?
I don't understand what he is trying to say. He mentions transcendence, but I don't think the goal of transcendence is ever to remain the same. How is separating your self from the concept of humanity a bad thing?
>Be buddhist>Do nothing>Pope seetheslol christcucks
>>18532827Actually denying free will is life denying, Pedro
>>18533706You haven't read anything besides christcuck lit if you believe this.
>>18532655There are entire monastic traditions in Catholicism that are about rejecting both pleasure and worldly suffering in the seeking of spiritual purity and enlightenment.
>>18532655The Catholic church approves of Zen Buddhism, though.Regardless, this self-satisfied babble doesn't even convince the speaker much less anyone else.
>>18533673If I had to think like a christian, I'd guess that being human and transcendent at the same time is ideal, because jesus was both fully god and fully human, and this transendence wouldn't necessarily lead to an end of suffering
>>18533016Bitch mocked Chudda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_PWM9gWR5EThen a wild Karma appeared. Americans got fed up and threw her husband and brother-in-law under the bus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98bU3f_HaA0
>it would no longer be humanYES.YES.THAT'S THE POINT. GOING BEYOND THE LIMITS OF THE HUMAN CONDITION.
Cast away thy flesh, go on to the next dimension
>>18532655>desire is goodWell then why do I see ne catholic swinger club? I guess that one is secret. Also then why should catholic priest not have children? Isnt it joyful to have children? Without children you literally dont have a future.
Also just look at the list of sexually active popes:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexually_active_popes
>>18532655I'm no buddhist but that's not a critique, he seems to just be (poorly) restating buddhist dogma
>>18534359By "desire" they mean the chronic dissatisfaction that drive Western material greed.
>>18534488Yeah and thats a good thing. Desire is literally what you want, the same thing. If you get more what you want then you have more success. This is not limited to hedonistic but extends to platonic and spiritual desires. You need to take the wholistic Hedonist Pill.
>>18534529>Yeah and thats a good thingIt's a good thing for the people who own you and other human cattle, that's why even your religious leaders peddle mindless material greed.
any criticism of buddhism is just an admission that you haven't transcended
>>18534532Literally you desire to argue against me and you follow that desire. Xou didnt refute shit
>>18534540>Literally you desire to argue against me and you follow that desireObviously, but unlike you, I'm capable of reflection so I can see that the habit of arguing with barely sentient "people" like you is just another source of dukkha.
>>18534544You are on 4chan. You must enjoy some dukkha. This site is full of contrarianism and deceit.
>>18534552Ok. Again, I'm not sure what your low-IQ post is supposed to highlight besides the fact that you're brown and incapable of self-reflection.
>>18534555Im very very high IQ (altough not peak) and at most 15% mediterranean. My skin is very white probably whiter than yours.
>>18534643>Im very very high IQThen why are you getting filtered by basic self-awareness like a nigger?
>>18532832this. european atheist nations dont have the tranny problem nearly as bad as christian ones
>>18534650European "atheist nations" (by which you mean atheists destroying the remnants of Christian nations) have a hundred problems (including rampant sexual degeneracy) but they're all direct consequences of Christianity insofar as they're reactions to it.
Why can't the christians on this board stop thinking about trannies? No one gives a fuck about trannies anymore, that culture war talking point is 10 years old. Trannies make up 0.03% of the population. They were already banned from sporting leagues (by atheist organizations mind you). It's over. God still does not exist and Christians still have the second lowest average IQ of any demographic, only higher than Muslims.
>>18534645What self awareness are you talking about? I think I made a concise argument. Buddhists go around say to act without desire but that seems impossible to me. If you act then you desire that action except maybe for reflexes of which it then can be said that your body desires to act those. Thusly I dont get what you mean by no desire. You know you can desire moderation too? To me thats also a desire. Or desire not to desire. Seems like you cant escape desire. It only matters what you desire but if you want to change that then thats also already a desire you must have beforehand. So desire is a given that fundamentally cant be changed except maybe if you die but then nobody seems to know what happens anyways.
>>18534687>What self awareness are you talking about?The self-awareness it takes to realize you harbor and indulge desires for reasons that have nothing to do with what's actually good for you and that being aware of this doesn't magically overturn the logic of behavior.>Buddhists go around say to act without desire No, they don't. They simply try to redirect the desire to escape suffering towards something that actually helps you escape suffering.
>>18534708Okay but some desires also lead to happiness and fulfillment. It really depends I agree on that. But my fundamental desires I cant change. So maybe I should just acceot my destiny in so far as my desires are immutable.
>>18534749>some desires also lead to happiness and fulfillment.Two More Weeks. And in the meanwhile, be sure to feed the technocapitalist system more of your lifeblood because your rulers aren't quite fulfilled yet.
>>18534749Happiness and 'fulfillment' are also impermanent. The whole point is to realize impermanence
>>18534755Just one more funkopop, mom, I swear...
Buddhism is antithetical to the the technocapitalist institutions that need 'christians' to exist therefore its based.
>>18534780>technocapitalist institutions ... need 'christians' to existThis sounds like satire until you look at the current US government and its associates.
>>18532829Why can't I hate Christkikes and Troons at the same time? Why can't I hate two of the most annoying "people groups" to have ever existed at the same time? Sounds unfair :(
>>18534753Shut up commie.>>18534755Suffering is also impermanent. I think we dont even really disagree. Its just a question of focus.
>>18534843>low IQ capitaloon slave exposes itselfCommunism doesn't exist but your handlers do.
>>18534851In that case I just become my own handler and create some freedom. Sounds like a skill issue honestly.
>>18534890>t. human cattle born and raised
>>18534892cucked mentality, enjoy the cage
>>18534897>owned and degraded human cattle continues clinging to its absurd fantasies of becoming part of the ruling class
>>18534900That future is coming anyways but it will be state mandated. Do wrong think once more and you go on the list for alpha testers.
>>18534911>owned and degraded human cattle tries to comfort itself by the thought that everyone else must also be a slave
>>18534919You are literally a passive interpreter. Come on. You can do better
>>18534924You will never be the one who calls the shorts. They will always have total leverage over you. They will always control every aspect of your life. They will always control every aspect of your perception. You will always be their slave because you embrace the qualities they exploit as a faux ideology thinking it somehow makes you better than the other cattle who does the same unconsciously.
>>18532655romantic
>>18534932>You will never be the one who calls the shortsI dont need to be and I dont want to be. Im already winning you just dont know it. Even if I died now I would still have won.
>>18534488I think this is more of a critique of less than stellar interpretation of utilitarianism than Buddhism. Buddhists are ok with desires like desiging to be compassionate or be patient. They oppose Tania or ignorant craving to be a self, essence or substance.This explains tanha.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFzF9RlYEz4&list=PLKuMaHOvHA4rag4t-jjdbeDdye5nb0rlF&index=2From a practioners view.https://www.lamayeshe.com/article/chapter/fourth-discourse-renouncing-desireI think the Pope is seeming to critique some type of preference utilitarianism specifically.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH45cfJMLnM&t=185s
>>18532655Leo can easily refuted by this one question: If desire is impossible without suffering, will there be suffering in heaven?
For reference, the Buddhist view would be more like some thoughts, actions, and habits reflect tanha, craving to be an essence, substance or self and that causes dukkha. Virtues like patience and kindness will be done intentionally but eventually no such intent is done and one simply does them automatically. They create the conditions for insight and wisdom.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlcHaZrpHWY&t=12shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MddC6LAsk28&t=1255s
>>18533807Does it work? Did they find enlightenment?
>>18532655The goal doesn't imply it should be reached, only that one ought strive for it.The calling of Christianity is not to become Jesus, it's to become as closer to Jesus as one can.I imagine somewhere down the line people misinerpreted Buddhism as "a true Buddhist reaches enlightment" instead of the original "ry to act more like the Buddha and your life will improve."
>>18537100Buddhism always had a soteriolgoical view point. The goal itself though is held to be a rational one but not necessarily a goal a being can have given their kleshas or mental defilements. They as a result tend to hold that lay practice will naturally produce the belief if given enough time.
