>Japanese people don't behave orderly and respectful in public because of Chinese philosophy, it was because of the Meiji modernization. Before the Meiji Restoration, Japan was a low trust society with a caste system, samurai killing people because they looked at them funny, bandits in the streets, poverty, clans, warlords. A powerful government had to step in, make the commoners behave and put all their kids in school to teach them love for order and for their countryHow true is the above statement.
>>18532659>Japanese people don't behave orderly and respectful in public because of Chinese philosophyAt least this part must be true, because the chinese don't behave orderly.
Hello, I'm the author of the original statement and it's about some Japanese people picking up trash left by others in sport events. I didn't say "behave orderly and respectful in public" because that's not really what happens there, they litter and then some of them pick up the trash left >>>/sp/155347767>>>/sp/155347843
>Meiji's government was the most powerful in all of history and remolded its people in a way no other government has ever sinceDoes this sound believable to you?
>>18532669They didn't remold anyone, they acted to curb the bad aspects of Japanese society. Caste system? Gone and kill anyone who rises against the change. Unruly samurai? Subdued. Criminals? Executed. Ignorant population? Forced to sit their asses in school and learn to behave and love their country
>>18532667Why do anons do this? Curiosity? Genuine butthurt?
>>18532676In this case it was probably curiosity
>>18532674You can't use force to make a society high trust. A high trust society by definition has no need for fear for people to act properly.
>>18532692How do you make people trust eachother without using force to punish bad actors?
>>18532692This is done over generations. People grow up in a society where problems of the past have been supressed and everyone learns to see a nation-state as their true community instead of the previously existing social groups. Naturally then, harsh law enforcement will no longer be that necessary because the elements that enabled some bad behaviors will be completely alien to their reality
>>18532692All modern high trust societies used to have extremely stringent laws on vagrancy because none trusted anyone from elsewhere in the country.
>>18532692True to be told the motto was "Enrich the nation, strengthen the military". Basically the Japanese saw British asskicking of the Chinese and realised they had to speedrun or they would be next.
>>18532659Nips are pussy cuck no fun losers who project the natural human desire for FUN into vile degeneracy through tranime where they ironically lack a shame culture despite porn technically being censored. Being a Deviantart tier fetishists in the west would mean you need to constantly watch your back or society in the form of KiwiFarms and sharteens will punish you by doxxing and calling you a pedo groomer. Being a Deviantart tier fetishist in Japan means you're to be hired immediately at any tranime studio.
>>18532667>>18532676I just expanded the question into a generalization. Im curious if their public order worship is due to state coercion or some buddhist belief.
>>18532659It was true of the British before the Victorian era they were a low trust society with high crime and murder rates
>>18532659>internal comparisonWhat do you think England was like back when it was pre-industrial and had a caste system? Yes. Having schools and infrastructure makes people more civilized. What people care about is comparing how civilized different peoples are at similar levels of development.
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>>18532659It’s not
>>18532659>>18532667both are actually true
>>18532659massively retarded and mostly untrue / misleading. not worth listening to
Sounds like mutt cope for why them dropping two nukes half a way across the world, was not only neccessary but in fact civil. Only to be posthumonously embarassed that the savage imperial nips that they lavishly portrayed as "just like my holocaust movies" turn out to be the most civilized people on earth consistently since ww2 while their citizens are by and large negrified circumcucks, and their actual negroes are glazed by all societal organizations.
>>18532692All sorts of societies were unrecognizably transformed ever since the industrialization began. Just drop kids into the new environment and new education and wait until they grow up. Oldfags will naturally die out and once they do there will be no one to remember that things were ever any other way.
>>18533721>japan in ww2>civilized
>>18532669Very brownoid postIf you lived in a western country you'd know the enormous cultural changes that have occurred in the last five decades
>>18532659Orderly high trust Japanese
Japjeets
High IQ japs
>>18534086>>murica at any point during history>>civilized
