>>18532786
What are the Turks and Normans in this context?

>>18532786
Could the Byzantines have actually reconquered Syria and Palestine if Manzikert didn't happen? They even had the Emirate of Aleppo as a vassal state at this point. And Syria still had a slight Christian majority, Muslims didn't become the majority there until around a century later.

>>18533869
Yeah probably. The Seljuks would collapse on their own and then you have a huge power vacuum in the Middle East.
Mongols would fuck them up when they arrive though.
>>18533709
Turks are the Prethoryn Scourge. Normans are the player.

>>18533869
You'd need a completely different political system with completely different priorities. Maybe if the Phokas clan had remained in charge it could have developed in that direction.

>>18532786
Awakened empires has a debuff that grows stronger the more planets they hold, guaranteeing they collapse.

I'd say that's closer to Austria.