The real reason latin america remains poor is the Spanish imported feudalism into its colonies
The real reason is what you would dismiss as "the fake reason"
>>18533240Race i assume you will say
>>18533238Partially, but I believe the unequal development of the world economy in the 19th century also plays a part in it. The countries of Latin America were for the most part peripheral to this system and participated in it as exporters of raw or half processed material and as consumers of industrially manufactured goods, this made it so the economy was more or less pigeonholed into that at least for that time. Latin American tentatives toward industrialization were all abortive at this time. And the political interventionism didn't help, either.>>18533240It's more of a handwaving than a reason, there is no substance to it. Glad we got the stock racist opinion out of the way, though. I'll do the communist one.
>>18533238>>18533283>>18533302>IT'S DA CIAAAAAAAA>ITS FEUDALISMMMMNo you're right anon, the CIA is responsible for all South Americas problems, it has nothing to do with the general population being genetically mongrelised with races prone to low brain density, psychopathy and low IQ. As we all know it's not the people or their genetics who make a Civilisation, it's the glowies secretly forcing them to film animal crush videos and have murder and rape rates 100x higher than White countries. You're definitely not just writing paragraphs of substanceless fluff about the complex mechanisms of Latin dispossession because you irrationally refuse to accept the biological reasons for it's inferiority.
It's shit because it was Spain's attempt at creating a Catholic version of the Muslim Empire by giving the Church massive swaths of land and a vested interest in forcing natives to convert resulting in violence and pushback (which ironically is also what ended up dooming the Muslim Empire before them) whereas in North America, the Colonists where overwhelmingly anti-Tory and explicitly rejected the Crowns use of the Church of England as their personal state apparatus which is why there is a separation of Church and State, instead natives were subjugated under more pragmatic guises rather than forced conversion
>>18533316Those 'low IQ races prone to psychopathy' built high cultures in there long before the arrival of latinx. If it's the race, it's the miscegenation, not the amerindian component. Although in Mexico proper, Aztecs/Toltecs/etc were really violent so there your statement holds when it comes to being violent. Now add the genuinely retarded Spanish society on top of that.>cope br-Malaysia.>that is a-Malaysia.>Chinese col-Malaysia. Average IQ roughly 98-101. Unless the Chinese minority is all 150+ IQ geniuses, the Malay are all also roughly 98-100 IQ despite having likely been lower decades ago.Most races besides Indians and Blacks aren't really as doomed as they are made out to be, but they face really strong roadblocks like historically retarded societies, actual historical bad luck or religious cancer.
the braindead hidalgo culture of spain inevitably filtered down into every aspect of latinx society. any form of social/economic advancement that wasn't "become a hidalgo so YOU can exploit the serfs too!" was disadvantaged with inevitable consequences
>>18533316You won't ever say anything the Comte de Gobineau didn't already say in a far more intelligent way a hundred and fifty years ago.>>18534100It's all more or less special pleading anyway.
>>18533238Yeah feudalism and patriarchy
>>18534100High culture compared to Africans and Abos, maybe.As for Malayasians, they don't have a 98-101 average IQ. https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/bx86gIt's more like 89. If you pull up that online IQ test I'll laugh btw
>>18534113trvke
>>18533316are you the hue schizo who posts glowies
>>18533316Uruguay is the whitest country in the Americas, so why doesn't it have a Euro-American standard of living? Why is Argentina poorer than Mexico, for that matter?
People saying Indians are a doomed race are annoying. Spanish institutions made sure to turn proper civilizations into human cattle instead of modernizing them and put the most corrupt and richest humans on earth at some point in charge of them.
>>18533238>>18536119That's strange, because Western Europe was feudal as well, and it's the most developed part in the world. And Spain is a first-world country.Ridiculous cope. Just use your fucking eyes
>>18536207The parts of Western Europe which industrialized earliest were always the richest though, while Eastern Europe and Iberia, which remained feudal longer, also long lagged behind the rest of the continent.
>>18536268What does that have to do with what I responded to? You or whoever I responded to proposed that feudalism and Spanish institutions keep "Latin" America poor. That is very easily refuted as I did. Furthermore, it is just not worth entertaining the idea. We know why "Latin" America will never reach European levels of development. The easiest way to quantify it is simply IQ. You can cope all you want about "Latin" American socioeconomic factors etc., but we have tens of millions of "Latin" Americans in America, and their average IQ is commensurate with what you would expect a country full of them to look like. It's about 87-90 against the NW European 100. This makes all the difference. 10% of Europeans are below 80, versus ~25% for "Latin" Americans. At the other end, roughly 2.5% of Europeans are "very highly intelligent" with an IQ of 130 or higher. For them far less at 0.3% ish. This becomes more stark the further and further you move from the average in either direction. These differences are hugely important. One people produce 10x+ more highly intelligent people and even more geniuses (if we define that as ~150 IQ, then Europeans and producing 50x more geniuses), and also 2.5-3x less retards. There's more to a population than average IQ, of course. But this is the simplest way to quantify the difference in the two sub-groups. This simple observation explains not only "Latin" America's development, but far more, such as their performance in the US. Again, it so simple and straight forward. That doesn't mean necessarily that South America should just give up or something; all I am doing is explaining the divergence.
>>18535688High cultures compared to Latinx individuals, and if you really want to bicker, compared to spaniards. Spanish speaking individuals have produced next to fucking nothing besides government structures built for resource extraction, and their culture currently reflects it.
>>18535688that iq dataset is an average of 1945 to 2018 doe
>>18535688>>18536119amerindians mog iberberians HARD in terms of achievements starting with the fact that their civilization is 100% original meanwhile jeetniards were civilized and raped into existence by moors for 800 years, not to mention they're in social decline as we speak from not breeding and massive immigration ratesbtw, show me an independently invented indigenous iberian writing system or european for that matter
>>18536207Yeah, it's also strange they industrialized in their own terms and never got colonized. Well, what was the last time Europe got colonized? Oh yeah, by Rome, and it turned into a shithole for 1000 years afterwards.Retard
>>18536321You are linking low IQ to genes, and that's a mistake. The simple answer is that extractivist economies require poorly educated peasants. That's what the Latin American elites want, have always wanted, and that's what they get.
>>18536802Intelligence is largely innate, yes. Are you suggesting by some miracle mental traits are somehow the exact same despite races differing in things like brain size and morphology? Or what, it's some ethereal property with no relation to the biological world we inhabit? Ridiculous. And your "hypothesis" from the shitty book "How Nations Fail" is easily refuted, once again, by just looking at how "Latin" Americans do in America. >>18536406They industrialized "in their own terms" because they invented the modern world.As for Rome, I fail to see the connection. Rome -- a uniquely advanced civilization for its time --fell, and Europe regressed and had a dark age lasting about half a millennium. And? You think Roman conquest slowed them down? What were they before? Also, Germany was never conquered by Rome. Were they uniquely ahead of the rest of Western Europe? Blindingly stupid, refusing to see the obvious.
>>18533238Feudalism in Spain? Not in the classical sense of the word.
>>18534119Why does everyone gas the French up so much?
>>18536807Yes nigger, post colonial rump states were shitholes for long before they could settle into something, including previously civilized parts of Spain. Latrinxmerica has had only 200 years. And now the rest is besides the goalpost, and you are not arguing in good faith. But the Germanics were the ones conquering former parts of what remained of the Western Roman Empire, so what even are you getting at?The difference between the Spanish and Roman empires is that one systematically destroyed and replaced everything it conquered, in favor of the Catholic Church. The comparison was aimed at highlighting how rump states tend to be shitholes, which you did concede, so the rest of your argument is besides the point.>And your "hypothesis" from the shitty book "How Nations Fail" is easily refuted, once again, by just looking at how "Latin" Americans do in America.The figure won't grow up in one or two generations of underdogs you fucking animal
>>185358091. It's probably comparable to most parts of Spain2. Mexico is next door to America, and with NAFTA giving them an open door to take manufacturing jobs from the U.S. they are not hurting for cash.
>>18536393how many indigenous American writing systems are still in use today? How odd.
>>18536947>It's probably comparable to most parts of Spainlmao ever seen its homicide rate, surely wignats have a cope for this one
>>18536954inuit o algo
>>18533238>The real reason latin america remains poor islarge numbers of low IQ people in the population.
>>18534100>built high cultures... they had stones ...
>>18533238>The real reason latin america remains poor is brown and black skinned peopleftfy
>>18536965And much more, but you are too ignorant and culture war poisoned to want to learn
>>18536849I wasn't so much gassing De Gobineau up as I was implying racialists haven't had anything new to say since De Gobineau published his essay on the inequality of the human races a hundred and seventy years ago. >>18536965Conquest-era accounts are usually really awed at the civilization of the Meso-Americans, though. And they don't denigrate the Andines, either. Though it's for different reasons, more about their extensive social co-ordination and such there.
>>18536990That said he was an intelligent and clever man, no one can take that from him. But being a very astute observer of the world around you doesn't save from being wrong.
>>18536954all writing systems in use today were originally invented by brown MENAs, not euronigs
