I stopped debating Christianity when I realized that most anti-Christian arguments basically devolve into>Gd isn’t real because he doesn’t let me have buttsex!
>>18534309I stopped believing in Christianity when I realized that most Christians only need God to step them having buttsex.
I'm simply not attracted to men while you are and use christianity to motivate yourself to overcome those desires. That's the difference between us.
If that's the type of arguments you habitually engage with your intellectual level must be quite low indeed.
Christians can't even agree on basic shit like the meaning of basically the whole book. "oh this verse means this no this verse means that"Meme religion. Christianity will eventually diverge so radically it will be unrecognizable. Because your scriptures are so unintelligible. The Mormons have already started. We'll be living in greater deseret soon
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>>18534309Who is Dagon the fish god father of Baal?
The only logically consistent atheist is a raving lunatic
>>18534309God isn't there for you when bad shit happens to you tho.
>>18534431You’re wrong, read the Book of Job. Though a mere man cannot see it, the Lord God governs all things by the power of His providence, and not one small atom escapes His notice, and He works all things for the good of those that love Him. There is no such thing as chance, but all is governed by the wise counsel of God. Therefore, we ought to be content with what He gives us and trust that He has a plan and will do us good, as well as be content that we know Him, for we need nothing more than that. Read also Jesus’ teachings about the birds of the air.
>>18534441But that's just a religious belief. In reality, it's just a cheap con. Why on earth would God write a book?
>>18534447>But that's just a religious belief.>In reality, it's just a cheap con.It’s divine truth.>Why on earth would God write a book?To guide His people in their pilgrimage through the long night of this world.
>>18534309>>18534310>>18534319>>18534326All forms of Abrahamism is a gradient that explores how to integrate swarthy mindsets with northern eurasian (paleskin) mindsets.Paleskins are more technological, autistic, individual and timeline oriented, whereas swarthies are more expressive, consensus-minded, hierarchic and situation oriented.Abrahamism was never set in stone, as its leaning toward northern or southern tendencies varied depending on which region exported ideas and people at different intervals and due climatic episodes and catastrophes.
>>18534454You're just parroting doctrine. In reality, I have looked under the table. As in: I'm a mage. So I study these systems, and put them to work, right? And like many mages, I tried judeojewish stuff, this means it summons angels and other powers, but doesnt use the name you expect, but rather old testament stuff. And it half-works. Because angels are weird beings compared to yours truly -and I for them-. So there's a heap of mischief. From their part, too. Because I corrupt. -Im a mythological being myself, I'll explain later-. So like, angel magick will also straight out not work as you expect or diminiss because of sin, in any case it quite didnt work out well for me. In truth: your angels respond, but don't quite seem to behave as per biblical ideas, rather in qabalah fashion. And trust this info, as I rarely want people to explore hither. As for me: I also exist :D :DJust like in your animus uwuwuuuu :DI'm a fox. An evil one :D So there's that, I'm convinced because of my very existence that beings such as the very nice Jorogumo, Kappas, etc, do exist, not only have we shared time, but I kinda miss these days, a longing if you will. So... Sinojapanese mythos of Yokai seems to be rather real. So, on the same grounds of "I know because of paranormal stuff I wont admit too" many angels and demons hold to, I hold to: Nigga, I bewitch and twist people... And shapeshift a bit at my young age...
that is a key thing to realize my mother pointed this out apparently it says in the bible atheists become fags, I knew it was the truth since I was becoming a fag on 4chan.
>>18534309This is obviously not true. There are over a billion atheists and like 1% of them are gay. You stopped debating it because Christians lose every debate.
>>18534603A large majority of atheists believe homosexuality is ok and a man can become a woman, you’re all fags you just don’t “identify” as one
Fun fact: the word "atheists" originally referred to Roman-era Christians, who openly denied the existence of all gods except for the Jewish one (YHWH).Before that, the idea of outright saying a god simply doesn't exist (as opposed to not recognising them as your own god) was unheard of
>>18534617The Greco-Roman condemnation of atheism and legislation prohibiting it pre-dates the birth of Christ. It was misapplied to Christians because they were not atheists.
>>18534441god kills Job’s family then replaces them with a new family
>>18534616>don't play video games but think other people should be allowed to play them>this means you're actually a video game player but just don't identify as oneChristians really can not reason.
>>18534616Nearly all Chinese are atheists and reject LGBT, what is your response to that?
>>18534622Christians are atheists though since they slander pagan gods as “false gods”, “fallen angels”, or “demons”
>>18534622>The Greco-Roman condemnation of atheism and legislation prohibiting it pre-dates the birth of ChristIt's true that it was also used against Epicureans, but unlike Christians, Epicureans merely believed/claimed the gods to be indifferent to mankind, as opposed to being fictional>It was misapplied to Christians because they were not atheists.I must have somehow missed all the Christians who acknowledge or at least do not strongly and condescendingly question the existence of Greco-Roman gods, and non-Abrahamic deities in general
>>18534309alternatively, God not real because he didn't stop my uncle from molesting me and turning me trans
>>18534670>sodomy is the same thing as playing video gamesDeranged>>18534678The Chinese are utterly controlled by their government. If this obstacle of a tyrannical communist state were moved out of the way they would be just as faggoty as the west.>>18534679>>18534686Christians are not atheists because they affirm and submit to the one true God, but the false gods of Greece and Rome are idols.
>>18534329So are you gonna address these arguments or what?
>>18534486>truly -and I for themAll the law hangs on two commands
>>18536067>little faggot seduces his uncle>blames god
>>18536074Your “god” Yahweh is not a real god like Zeus is.Your “god” Yahweh is Typhon, the embodiment of chaos and father of all monsters.The bible itself proves this>It claims Yahweh will try to destroy this world (Book of Revelation)>It claims Yahweh is jealous of other gods (Deuteronomy 4:24 and Joshua 24:19)>It claims Yahweh is the “destroyer of nations” (Jeremiah 4:7)There's also the fact that Chaeremon, Apion, and Manetho all linked Yahweh to Set, the Egyptian god of chaos, destruction, and foreigners, whom later Egyptians equated with Typhon.You accuse the Olympians of being “demons,” but the reality is that the only "demon" here is Yahweh whom you worship.This is why your “god” forbids images of him, because he looks like this.
>>18536199>>18536074>It claims Yahweh is the “destroyer of nations” (Jeremiah 4:7)I should also mention that the phrase “destroyer of nations” is translated from the Hebrew phrase mashkhít goyím (משחית גוים) and in some versions of the Bible, this phrase is translated as “destroyer of gentiles.” They are literally calling him the “destroyer of goyim,” this only proves that Yahweh-Typhon is a demon.
>>18536199>>18536202you’re latinx tho
>>18534329Christian arguments:I don't believe thatIt makes me feel goodMy parents were Christian
>>18536202No moron, you goyim are the demons who suck each other's genitals and lick each others assholes and drink each other's bodily fluids. Who respect bo one and hold nothing sacred and have no honor and feel no shame and who's heart is full of deceit and malice and envy hatred.
>>18536206The difference is that atheists actually say all the retarded stuff in that image whereas Christians only say this in your mind
>>18534447God wrote the book to save you, dummy. He is a God of justice and every single person has broken divine law. He wouldn't be just if he didn't punish criminals. All humans are innately evil creatures and he's gonna throw them all in prison. God himself can't lie, yet humans do it so willfully, along with all sorts of degenerate things because we're born with a inclination to do evil and your soul lives forever. He wouldn't be good if he let you gooners live among others who have never lied, lusted or hated before.God wrote you everything you need to know in his book on how to have your crimes pardon, he has used his divine orchestration to try and get your attention many times and you have rejected it. Don't harden your heart, today is the day of salvation.
>>18536199Your theology is mixed up. All other gods are actually just fallen angels and nephilim. Zeus is likely Satan because they both share lightning properties.
>>18536262No, gods are gods and it is Zeus who is the most high, not Yahweh-Typhon. It is you who worships a demon. Any accusation you throw at pagans it nothing more than mere projection.
>>18536222Saaaar
Can anyone explain to me why Jesus was not married and had no kids at the grand age of 33, which is like 45 in modern terms?Sounds suspicious if you ask me?
>>18536074>>sodomy is the same thing as playing video gamesCorrect. They're both things that I don't care about and other people do. They do it in their live and I don't in mine. You Christians really can not reason.>>18536230No, they don't. The arguments atheists give are so strong that they've basically dominated christianity to the point where it is the fastest dying religion in the world while atheism grows faster than any religion and is now over 20% of the global population. But of course you christians can't reason and have to make up strawmen.
>Christianity and homosexuality are incompatibleHave you been living under a rock for 40 years, OP?Churches have been celebrating gay marriages for a while already.You can absolutely be openly gay and also a Christian, at least in a Western country
>>18536074>The Chinese are utterly controlled by their government. So religion and politics are exclusively meant to prevent people from acting on their repressed homosexuality?
>>18534310Lmao
>>18534310You're joking but homosexuals are absolutely overrepresented among celibate clergy.Easy for them to preach chastity and restraint when they don't like pussy to begin with
>>18536713>Correct. They're both things that I don't care about and other people doYou are a degenerate>They do it in their live and I don't in mine.You do do it in yours. People do not exist in vacuum, every sin of your brother’s is yours towards which you do not show dislike.>The arguments atheists give are so strong that they've basically dominated christianity to the point where it is the fastest dying religion in the worldYou are deceived if you think this, atheists virtually never make arguments outside of the ones in the pic and any others they make are equally fallacious. The idea that atheists win against Christians is a complete joke. Atheists are stupid, evil people who are entirely controlled by their own emotions, you are so chained by feelings that it controls even your perceptions. The great majority of atheist argumentation consists only of the appeal to ridicule fallacy, doing nothing but portraying Christianity as silly, typically by misrepresenting it (the retard who spams incessantly about “magic Jews” is a prime example of this), to stir up strong emotions against it. The persuasiveness of such arguments is that it causes you to subconsciously think “wow, he’s being bullied for his beliefs, I don’t want to be bullied, I better not believe like him”. It has no logical merit whatsoever. Since the atheist self-perception of their own supreme rationality is obviously false, it is best explained as yet another example of emotive reasoning: to perceive themselves as a moron who can’t think critically feels bad, so they believe it is false, while to perceive themselves as a genius who is superior to everyone else feels good, so they believe it is true. This explains the distinctively unbreakable slavery of the atheist intellect, his problem prevents him of being even aware of the problem. (cont.)
>>18536713>>18537821This idiocy is clearly driven by the atheist worldview itself, since they themselves expressly deny the existence of objective things like truth or morals, and openly admit they exalt their own pleasure above all else.Second, there is no correlation between the strength of atheist arguments (which, as established, is null) and the decline of Christianity. This errantly assumes there is some correlation between truth and popular belief, while in reality the decline of Christianity is a decline in profession of Christianity, as people who never believed cease identifying with a religion with which they had nothing to do, not changing their lives at all. The cracks in the foundation are just showing themselves. And the true drive of this apostasy has not been the correctness of atheism (which is bankrupt), but a widespread ungodly desire for pleasure and wealth and self-exaltation driven by the baleful influence of the present secular cultural establishment.
>>18536762Those aren’t Christian churches and you cannot be both gay and Christian by definition.
>>18537821>You are a degenerateNo, I'm not.>You do do it in yours.No, I don't.>You are deceived if you think this, atheists virtually never make arguments outside of the ones in the picNo, I'm not deceived and atheist do indeed make real arguments. Your strawmen are not indicative of reality at all and you simply pretending otherwise isn't going to change reality.>The idea that atheists win against Christians is a complete joke. Atheists are stupid, evil people who are entirely controlled by their own emotionsThis is literally the exact opposite of reality.>The great majority of atheist argumentation consists only of the appeal to ridicule fallacyNo, they don't.> doing nothing but portraying Christianity as silly, typically by misrepresenting it No, these are not the majority of atheist arguments, but these are still true claims nonetheless.>Since the atheist self-perception of their own supreme rationality is obviously falseIt isn't "false", atheists actually are more intelligent than christians and this is indicates across all studies on the subject.>>18537825>since they themselves expressly deny the existence of objective things like truthThis does not happen, you have a profoundly low IQ>This errantly assumes there is some correlation between truth and popular beliefThis does not happen.> while in reality the decline of Christianity is a decline in profession of Christianity, as people who never believed cease identifying with a religion with which they had nothing to do, not changing their lives at all. The cracks in the foundation are just showing themselves. And the true drive of this apostasy has not been the correctness of atheism (which is bankrupt), but a widespread ungodly desire for pleasure and wealth and self-exaltation driven by the baleful influence of the present secular cultural establishment.No, it's because christianity is false and has been disproved, and you denying this doesn't change what is actually happening.
>>18537999Give a good argument not in pic
>>18537835Says who? They're officially recognised as Christian churches
>>18534309Importantly, God walked the Earth for 32ish years and didn't say 1 time that you couldn't be gay.I mean you could theoretically twist the words of God himself to sort of imply it, but I wasn't personally looking forward to boiling in hell, so I just wouldn't do that.Turns out all these "Christians" actually just worship Moses and Paul and are looking forward to boiling in hell for eternity for idolatry :lI'll pray gayly for God to soften your heart and bring you into communion with him unuSatan is very pleasing to the eyes and sensibilities guys, be careful and take only God at his word.>>18536074It's actually worse than sodomy, because while God never directly admonishes homosexuality, at least not bottoming, he does directly condemn distractions from faith when he condemns Cain for being befallen. God gives you gifts, talents, and purpose and you spend all your time indoors turning to escapism instead of God. Don't squander God's grace, anon.>>18536202The nations were living disconnected from God and had become corrupted>>18536202The lion in that verse is babylon, not Yahweh, that's why none of the pronouns are capitalized. You really went to read the old hebrew without realizing that?
>>18534329>Muh freewill>Muh metaphor >Muh metaphor 2>Muh metaphor 3>Muh eye >Muh ethics or something lol>Muh trannies >Muh faggots
>>18534309>I stopped debating ChristianityGood, religions don't deserve to be "debated" on. You just believe in what you want to, personal experience can't be debunked.
>>18538138While the person you are replying to is making a critical "no true Scotsman" logical fallacy, you have to differentiate between legal and doctrinal identification of a church. Being recognized by society as a church does not make it a church. Much like being a tranny does not make you a woman.
>>18538142Words of God through Moses > Words of Jesus.
>>18538215Literally how? That's like the entire point of the story of Jesus beefing with the pharisees, God literally said with his own mouth that you'll die for that exact take, but OK?! :x
>>18538189>Being recognized by society as a church does not make it a church.Because....?
>>18534310In your defense, you were eight and your uncle just held you down and made you close your eyes.
>>18538299Because Christ is the Church, not any building with plastic letters in the correct order...? I agree that only blasphemers and Jews have any reason to dislike the repentant gays, but that doesn't change the fact that these non-denom churches are often engaging in the same sin in other ways.>>18537835The bible never condemned 2 adults loving each other, and even specifically carves out bottoms as victims of sin if you do want to play it that way, so either way I'm not hellbound and you are twisting His Word, which is blasphemy and also something to be eradicated according to God Himself.You are the son of the lord of lies. I'll gayly pray that God softens your heart and frees you from the devil though, 'nonny <3
>>18538298Jesus claimed Moses wrote about him trying to use Moses to gain legitimacy. Yet Moses did not write about him anywhere.
>>18538302NTA but casually making fun of sexual child abuse shows that you're a really shitty person, beneath your Holier Than Thou facade
>>18538334This is a Christianity thread, no one cares or asked about the willfully ignorant opinions of the blind.Crack the book sometime and read more than a few verses.
>>18538366So Israelites were afraid of God's voice so they asked God to let Moses speak in behalf of God instead of him speaking directly to them, and since Moses was about to die God tells them he will raise a prophet like Moses so he can continue speaking through him and not make them afraid, and somehow that prophet would come thousands of years in the future and actually be God himself in the flesh? Don't be a fool, that prophet that God promised them was clearly Joshua, Moses successor. He split the Jordan River like Moses split the Red Sea andnled Israel into the promise land so he was like Moses.
>>18538390And when Moses dies they say a prophet like moses hasn't yet risen, so...Are you comparing splitting water to speaking face to face with God and hearing his name unironically? Or are you ragebaiting?
Read Mark 14:51-52, Jesus was alone with some scantily-dressed young man the night before he was arrested
>>18534309If God is real, how come I'm tempted to sin?
>>18538421>say a prophet like moses hasn't yet risenThen the book of Joshua starts. Joshua at least spoke face to face with the commander of the LORD'S armies. AKA Michael. But even if he wasn't it still doesn't make sense based on the context of the promise of this prophet that God is talking about the Messiah 1500 years later.
>>18534309I don't debate religion, I see it as a philosophical tradition and I'm mostly agnostic but I am baptized Catholic. I evangelize when possible because it helps a lot of people and its good for families, its also one of the biggest themes in western culture and literature so you should learn the Bible either way.
>>18534309You know what the best book of anti-Christian arguments is? The bible.Numbers 31:17-18Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves.Numbers 15:32-36New International VersionThe Sabbath-Breaker Put to Death32 While the Israelites were in the wilderness, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp.” 36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the Lord commanded Moses.Deuteronomy 21:18-21King James Version18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
>>18534309>>18538712Deuteronomy 28New International VersionCurses for Disobedience58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the Lord your God— 59 the Lord will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring on you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The Lord will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the Lord your God. 63 Just as it pleased the Lord to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.>All Good(x) Doubt.
