Back then life was full of glory and heroism. You fought for something transcendent, spiritual, and greater than yourself.Nowadays, the world is Americanised, hyper consumerist, and extremely individualistic>b-but you would have died youngSo what? I’d rather live a short life full of glory and renown than a long one in obscurity.
>>18534348It goes both ways. I would have likely been a peasant working the farms, but at least I would have been more used to that than consuming media for the rest of my life.
>>18534357Pretty much. If you were a peasant atleast you wouldn’t be directionless. Something I’ve realized, from experience, is that egalitarianism was a mistake. Hierarchy is the natural human state of affairs.
>>18534348>You fought for something transcendent, spiritual, and greater than yourself.This is a Christcuck view of things. Greek heroes were not doing this. They were fighting for izzat.
>>18534383The post-industrial world was a mistake. We live in an era where we get basically everything, sheltering us from mother nature herself.
>>18534388Exactly retard. What do you think Kleos (Greek izzat) even was? It wasn’t something physical, that’s for sure.
>>18534391Yeah but it doesn't have anything to do with "something transcendent and spiritual" nor is it non-egoistic
>>18534348>Back then life was full of glory and heroism. You fought for something transcendent, spiritual, and greater than yourself.No they fought over land and resources (and plunder), just like it happens today. The only difference is that instead of getting shot they were stabbed by swords and impaled by spears
>>18534390Agreed. Funny how people who subscribe to Liberalism (real liberalism, not the American buzzword) claim to be humanist. If anything, the modern world is radically anti-human. An aberration.
>>18534348>Back then life was full of glory and heroism. You fought for something transcendent, spiritual, and greater than yourself.Not really. We just have no historical records from that era so you project into a hazy era of myths and literary archetypes. I can guarantee you it was just as gay and retarded as today because it's all humanity at all times.
>>18534394Wrong. Figures like Alexander literally fought for historical immortality.
>>18534393Do you even know what the words “transcendent” and “spiritual” mean?
>>18534398Life would've been great if you were born a king..
>>18534390>We live in an era where we get basically everythingYou get basically nothing. Not only are your human needs unfilled, you are also brainwashed into denying your own humanity. Modern human cattle is some of the most subhuman and degraded populations that ever lived. You can't go lower beyond being a literal slave.
>>18534399Well, given my Christian upbringing, those words make me think of a transcendent reality superior to my own - that I would be fighting for a beautiful, earth-shatteringly wonderful truth, a world above my own, a goodness so sublime that it cannot even be fathomed, not just so I can have some faggots write some nice words about me in their books
>oh my Evola where is the baste Bronze Age Mindset and constant murder, save me HitlermanMaterialism and scientific advancement killed your fantasies? Good. Get over it and build something else instead of dwelling on fantasy visions of the past.
>>18534348>You fought for something transcendent, spiritual, and greater than yourself.AKA, you were delusional. Even now, you're delusional, so your life wouldn't change much.
>>18534348All those Angloids/Germoids thinking 24/7 about ''I wish I wuz ancient Greek, I wuz be glorious and badass'' while they look like pic related The Greek sun alone would send you pasty pig-skinned angloids into fatal heat-strokes
>>18534348Your life would be extremely short, and your afterlife would be and will be long and terrible. Seek the glory of God, those who would glorify self will know only shame.
>>18534408>The Greek sun alone would send you pasty pig-skinned angloids into fatal heat-strokesHappens every summer over here.
>>18534400Many kings back then were former peasants
>>18534402You’d be fighting for something metaphysical. Not necessarily Christian
>>18534421E.g.?
>>18534404Fuck BAP and Hitler. Both grifter faggots with hidden insecurities.> Get over it and build something else instead of dwelling on fantasy visions of the past.Then maybe we need a synthesis. Something that includes the best of both worlds
>>18534411Christian kings also sought earthly glory.
>>18534424https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleos
>>18534434There is nothing metaphysical about this
Yes. It makes the capitalist wageslave seethe
>>18534432For God, not themselves.
>>18534443Define metaphysical for me.
>>18534459Are you suggesting that it's "metaphysical" because it is something social rather than crudely physical?
>>18534458For God AND themselves. Earthly glory is a gift from God. Denying this means you are a satanist who rejects the gifts of God. You will be tormented in the lake of fire for blaspheming The Holy Spirit.
>>18534462Because it’s transcendent and not physical. How many people are willing to die for non physical things today?
>>18534469People die for their countries and ideologies all the time
>>18531057one wonders what exactly was heroic about living in those times when such modern concepts as free speech and human rights didn't exist and the king could just kill anyone he wanted or have sex with anyone he wanted and also decide what religions you were or weren't allowed to practice.
>>18534475>ideologiesDo they?And countries aren’t necessarily transcendental
>>18534476>Henry VIIILiterally fought for martial glory
>>18534476The idea of representative democracy helped improve and stabilise society a lot because you can vote out an unpopular leader. In an autocracy there's no way to do that short of overthrowing him or waiting for him to die.
>>18534348First of all 98% of humanity were indentured serfs or slaves. No one gave two shits about those lives, they were throw aways. Work and serve and maybe you eat or maybe you starve. Resist your masters you die. You were kept ignorant, half starved and some noble had control of your life or death. Your waking moments were consumed with survival barely a step above livestock kept for slaughter.
>>18534348>Back then life was full of glory and heroism.What reading 0 history does to a mf.
>>18534476even in the USA aka land of the free people other than heterosexual white males really had no human rights until the 1960s
>>18534522And that’s a good thing
>>18534348i wish i was born in ancient greecewhen im a boy, i can have a relationship with a nice older manwhen im a man, i can have a relationship with a beautiful youth
>OP surprised to learn that ancient warfare wasn't very nice and the Geneva Convention wasn't a thing yet
>>18534348>gets born in ancient times>dies as an infantEnjoy OP
>>18534348Do we get to keep the knowledge of our current life?>YesApostolic era, record as much as I can about Jesus Christ and the early church>No1930s, so I can partake in World War 2 and raise kids in the 1950s.
>>18534348>le golden ageOP should unuronically be executed in the publuc square. it's unbelievable that in 2026 retards online still fall for a 6000 yo myth
>>18534738>waa I still wouldn’t be a real woman if I were a live back then so it must have suckedKill yourself tranny
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