>sacrificed himself, to himself, to make himself forgive his creation for doing what he made them to do.
>>18535887Christianity breaks down once you inqure past the "jesus died for your sins" spiel
>>18535887Technically the crucifixion was more of an assisted suicide than anything if you buy into the Biblical notion that Jesus knew it was coming and did nothing to prevent it
>>18535925How does Christianity differentiated suicide from martyrdom?
>>18535928Suicide is when you kill yourself, or ask others to kill you.Martyrdom is when others kill you because of your faith in Jesus Christ.
>>18535932"Asking others to kill you" is essentially just what Jesus did if his death was as intentional as the NT frames it to be
>>18535887The power of death has been trampled by death. This is why I reject PSA because it was not a transaction of God paying himself off. But rather was God’s ultimate act of rescue, defeating death and uniting human nature to the divine so that humanity can be healed. Freeing those from Sheol/Hades of those who did not belong there. And not just forgiving creation, but drawing creation closer to Himself.
>>18535887Jesus is a son of god, not god.
>>18535887But you don't get it! The omnipotent Jesus couldn't do it any other way, the faulty law he designed while he was omniscient did not take into account that becoming a sin chicken sin sponge is the only solution.>>18535925It was sui by centurion too lol. chriscukery is designed to tug on the heart strings of people vulnerable to emotional manipulation. you're supposed to cry for the God you yourself would put on the cross because it's the only way for you to escape punishment for Eve's sins
>>18535887Don't forget he flew up to sit on the right side of himself
>>18535887The fact that some people made up such a bullshit story about some event they vaguely know about and made up increasingly more convoluted stories in the 4 gospels is crazy and yet these days people still tend to believe in paranormal shit like this...They even make a mistake saying that jesus was born during the time of herodotus and the census of quinitus when herodotus died 9 years before the census.It literally just sounds like some guys met some jesus enthusiats and they randyied themselves into writing ever more spectacular stories to gain popularity in the jesus enthusiast activity group. These days people do the same thing putting words and motives in god's words to appease doubters and their congregation showers them with status
>>18535908most christians except schizos and low iq third worlders also accepts the theory of evolution instead of adam and eve. ignoring that the whole message of original sin falls apart the moment you reject the adam and eve origin story
>>18535942thats heresy
>>18535887You pretend not to understand because the truth is your own doom waiting to destroy you.
>>18536168but jesus is god
>>18536174The trinity is a simple idea that you've so far failed to understand.
>>18536184answer the simple question weasel. is jesus god or not?
>>18535887OP has never ran into the problem of someone promising them they will marry them, and then doesn’t, because she sees he is a faggot that blasphemes God. Why would she ever marry this faggot that goes on the internet to whine about why God doesn’t let him be gay? He is the reason she turned into a faggot and would rather be bimboing up to somebody else. That is the true nature of his soul and hers, and ultimately since he is the male, what he did to her by his unbelief because he thinks a wife and true love is an extremely exaggerated fantasy that doesn’t exist, so he turned his wife into a faggot and is trying to reason that it must be God’s fault, and not his.The fact is that she has the free will and you can’t force her. You can only pray for her and hope she comes out of darkness for you, but you’re so far gone that ain’t happening, faggot. God created us the same way. He isn’t forcing you to stop your faggot ass. You have a free will to grow likes beautiful rose bush. Or keep choosing to be cum scum in your marsh. God is not the one doing it to you. You are. Meanwhile Christians have their wife because they love and believe. Because that is what the cross represents what the savior did for humanity.
>>18536203The real answer is that the question isn't relevant, except as a gotcha for the maliciously intentioned.
>>18536166Are you saying the scriptures are heresy?
>>18536160“These days”These days faggots like you talk like these days are any different from the days of Noah, you stupid fucking faggot.Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Do you accept His righteous shed blood on the cross for your sins? You are a dirty rotten lying sinner going to burn in hell for all of eternity. With no escape or any way out for all eternity when you die.These days Christians know you are a fucking faggot and naked as hell posting on 4chan. The question is do you ask for forgiveness since we fucking know.It depends whether you want forgiveness or not. If you don’t, then you are eternally a fucking faggot. If I see you, you are going to fucking run into the darkness and hide like I can see you naked. Just the facts, tranny. I don’t want your meal time ruined. You choosing this yourself. Not God or me.
>>18535887>doing what he made them to do.What? Are you a lobotomite?
Why don't you ask forgiveness to brahma you fucking cuck I just showed you the gospels are retarded and you just skip this. You're an endoctrinated faggot.I'm not asking forgiveness for any martyr I hear about and you don't. You seem to think that the scare tactics the church used on you as a child would work on me. Bro I know god is not real and I know with even higher certainty that jesus is not the son of god.You literally have no proof, but chose to believe in with "muh faith" (perfect sectarian tool to neutralize doubters)Do you really think your world will crumble when you stop believing in fairytales? Nothing will happen, you're just the bitch that believes in other peoples lies because they taught you to fear hell they have no proof of existing
>>18536231>>18536247Meant for u
>>18536184This is Arianism.
>>18536254No it isn't.
>>18536260The Son is begotten by the Father as coequal parts of the Godhead, your chart implicitly puts the Son as a product of God as a vassal being.
>>18536220>"You're gay if you don't take this story about a zombified Rabbi seriously!" Is that really the best Christians can do here?
>>18536266Read the text for an explanation.
And you're mad as fuck as at the God you don't believe exists, so much you feel the need to spam an imageboard for chinese cartoons with posts like these every single day? We live in the most secular age in history, and yet atheists can't just go live their lives, they have to seethe with impotant rage at the creator they supposedly don't even believe in. You and your lot are truly spiritually raped.
>>18536438Christians are the easiest / funniest posters to trigger on every board. They make it too easy.
>>18536512Atheists are the easiest to trigger because you don't actually need to do anything, they just seethe and shit themselves because they hate God and christianity for existing
>>18536541Your God doesn't exist and Jesus rotted in the cave. Hope that helps!
>>18536512Nobody is biting into this sandwich. /pol/ and /his/ are legit filled to the brim with mindbroken Atheists crying like retarded children at perceived injustices. They keep circling the point that they do, in fact, want salvation, but will never admit it to themselves. Hiding behind irony doesn't negate this fact.
>>18536726>want salvationComplete Christcope projection. Nobody outside of your blood cult is interested in sucking a zombie Rabbi's cock forever
>>18535887What was the endgame?
>>18536726The atheist god will only grant us salvation if we evangelise the rational and empirical explanations that religions are fake, we are actually doing our best.Our god created many fake religions to test if people are dumb enough to believe in shitty myths that science denies or that are unfalsifiable. Those that are brave enough to change their beliefs will go one spiritual plane above, those who blindly listen to their mentors and priests will be cast to hell were they get sodomized for eternity with a glowing hot iron stick.God rewards honesty even though it is really hard to attain.The fact that you blindly believe in miracles like the resurrection despite there having no reasonable evidence for it having happened tells us that you're probably going to the coward's hell. You are too weak to face the evidence.
>>18536161The Original Sin story in Genesis makes zero sense anyway.It's full of contradictions
>>18535942Aren't we all though? He's everyone's father anyway. What would be the point?
It makes way more sense if Jesus becomes one with God and God speaks through him, than him always being God in human form.Like, God just dicked around during his childhood and puberty? God watched sheep and built furniture until he was old enough?The whole baby Jesus story is clearly tagged on later too. It doesn't really fit into the narrative at all. Three powerful magi followed the signs and discovered the messiah, but then they didn't follow up on that at all for 30 years?
>>18535941>defeating death and uniting human nature to the divine so that humanity can be healedso what actually changed before vs after crucifixion? death existed and it still exists, there is nothing you can point to that is not unfalsifiable question begging
>>18536231nta>Jesus Christ is the Son of Godproof? none.>Do you accept His righteous shed blood on the cross for your sins?an infinite god choosing to suffer for a blip in time is nothing to him.i never asked to be born, much less for anyone to choose to make me by default as "fallen" and then suffer to "cure" me in an unfalsifiable way, or so some people say happened 2k years ago.>You are a dirty rotten lying sinner going to burn in hell for all of eternityah such a benevolent god who cares about my free will creating me knowing i will commit something finite that he doesnt like for which he knows he will be punishing me infinitely in a torture dimension he wont allow me to exit.
>>18535887>misunderstands the Sacred Scripture and tries to play the scholar on 4chan
>>18535887I know that I hung on that windy tree,spear-wounded, nine full nights,given to Odin, myself to myself,on that tree that rose from rootsthat no man ever knows.
>>18536166Its not heresy unless you can show him how he is wrong.
