why doesn't more religious cults like JWs and LDS use attractive women more often when missionaring?like who the fuck wants to talk with dorks like this?
>>18536875They do. They both use a ton of young girls as missionaries.
>>18536875Why would they attract gooners to their cause?
>>18536875The David Berg Family of Love/Children of God/Family International movement would send out women to FUCK potential converts and that way bring them to its religion. They called it "flirty fishing." It's not enough, anon. Nobody who joins a religion over gooning is worth having in the religion. Berg's sect is super unsuccessful and has no world historical significance beyond its controversies. At least Jehovah's Witnesses were martyrs during the Holocaust and Mormon persecution led them to found a whole state and build countless cities in the western USA, northwestern Mexico, and southwestern Canada, including now non-Mormon ones like Las Vegas. Berg's movement's one claim to historical importance is that it was the most successful of the Jesus freak hippie sects. Good religions last because they have good serviceable theologies and entire distinctive cultural mindsets born from those theologies, albeit to be most successful they ALSO have to be adaptive mindsets, capable of local adaptation to changes. Mormonism actually scores pretty well in these metrics.
>>18536875It's not about what others want. The leaders want mid looking, dim witted young men to monetarily abuse.
>>18536881it's only losers who are willing to convert to begin with>>18537126and its those types of men that are more willing to join the church if they are recruited by a pretty girl
>>18537119wasn't bergs cult mostly set back by it's heavy emphasis of incestious sexual child abuse?i wonder if it would have been more succesfull and survived if it wasn't lead by a pedophile
>>18536875You're ALMOST onto it, anon. Just keep thinking about that question. WHY would the authorities keep all the young attractive women at home while sending all the young men away?
>>18536875My take on it is that the real reason is gooner reasons.>Send attractive women out for missionary work>brings in even more men that can't get laid into organization>Sends attractive men out for missionary work>brings in an influx of women to marry their surplus of weird devoted men that can't get laid with the purpose of creating the next generation of believers
>>18536881So they can cum in Mormon babes and make kids
>>18536875Can you please stop comparing us JWs to mormons ?We're nothing alike
>>18539043Yes JWs are apostate Christians just like the rest of the others, Mormons actually receive revelation and our revelations tell us to seek out the best books and learn, not to shun outsider literature if it's offered to you. We're taught to seek higher learning, so we have universities of our own. You're taught to shun higher learning so most JWs don't even have more than a high school education. Your Jesus is not divine, ours is. Your repeated prophecies failed, we have several that were fulfilled. We really are nothing alike.
>>18539052>You're taught to shun higher learningThis is not a JW belief, what a weird point to make>Your Jesus is not divine,He is though, he is the second most powerful person in the universe after God>Your repeated prophecies failedWe believe inspired prophet stopped existing after the apostolic era, so we never made prophecies
>>18539052>Your repeated prophecies failedPot meet kettle
>>18539052>>18539081You're both retarded but at least Mormons are interesting culturally. JW is the wonderbread of religion.
>>18536875They do. In fact, "flirt to convert" is an official, church sanctioned strategy.>>18539043Mormons are schizophrenic but they are an interesting cultural element, a homegrown American centered cult, and they cultivate (high control obviously) local economies, support groups and education system. JWs are just boring and cultureless.
>>18536875Some Korean wacko church uses young women to lure men to "Korean cultural events" with implied kpopussy, and then it turns out to be their cult recruiting fest. Not the moonies, it's some other cult
>>18536881>goonersLiking attractive women is simply called "being straight" you absolute queer
>>18536875I once met mormon missionaries in a small town in Czechia. It seemed quite bizzare. Like I know they send missionaries to Europe, but I would have never guessed that they send them even to bumfuck rural towns in the middle of nowhere lmao
>>18537641There was an old joke about how all the girls in Salt Lake City marry young
>>18539052>not to shun outsider literature if it's offered to youUnless that literature is "A Wikipedia article about the Columbian Exchange"Mormons are stupid niggers who genuinely think Native Americans were riding around on horses and carrying steel swords 1000 years before Columbus
>>18536875Me. Mormonism is dumb, but brormons are all right. They're dorks, yes, but they're often rather cool dorks with overlapping interests to me. I've never met a mormon who didn't play dnd, for exampleI do think the youtube ads with hot mormon chicks are pretty funny. Quite clever, really. Both women and men want to talk to hot chicks, but only dorks like me want to talk to dorks like them.
In Israel, the IDF does this with photo shoots of hot chix in uniform looking like they just stepped out of an outdoor gear catalogue, nothing slutty, just casual and “real”. They’re thirst traps for dorky Jewish incels on their birthright trip. Of course the intent is nationalistic, not religious, but it’s an example of an ethnoreligious group using hot women as bait.
Usually, these type of practices are about keeping the members in and making them different from other people. They will attract. few people this way but not many. It is basically a high control tactic to keep them in and isolated.
>>18539785Grim. Only ones I wouldn't call ugly here are the first one in second row and the second one in third row.
>>18539788Mormons exist in plenty who get PhD's as scientists and historians and teach all the respectable scientific knowledge at some of the best universities, and even at BYU to other Mormons, and have zero problem handling stuff like this. It does make some of the stupider more ostrich head in the sand reactionary Mormon traditionalists a little angry, there's always stories of angry parents getting mad at BYU even though the Church leaders fully support it. The way I see it that's not Mormonism's inherent fault, it's the effect of living among crazy Evangelical Americans influencing us to be irrational identity politics Woke Right trads like they are. Not how Joseph Smith behaved. By contrast, a JW is literally encouraged not to get a bachelor's degree or higher. JW's literally deny their own history happened because they're embarrassed of predicting the Second Coming wrongly so many times, even as late as 1975. On the other hand the LDS Church backs earnest secular attention to Mormon history these days, backing the Joseph Smith Papers project, etc. Secular Mormon studies are growing and it's other Mormons writing secularly about this stuff leading the change.
>>18540391>By contrast, a JW is literally encouraged not to get a bachelor's degree or higher. No, this is incorrect. As George D. Chryssides says in his book Exploring New Religions, London, 1999: "Witnesses are less likely to aspire to higher education than their peers... They typically disapprove of the rat race that is rife in contemporary society, and view earthly aspirations as being of much less importance than spiritual concerns: it is far preferable to work for Jehovah's kingdom than for material gain.">JW's literally deny their own history happened because they're embarrassed of predicting the Second Coming wrongly so many times, even as late as 1975.Let’s see what JWs actually said about 1975: On 10/3/2024 at 8:26 AM, Dawid said:At my work, my colleague start this topic about 1975. I had not knowledge how to talk about it with him. Thanks to this forum I feel much brave to talk about this date and what happened“Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah’s witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975."—Watchtower 10/15/66 p. 631"Interestingly, the autumn of the year 1975 marks the end of 6,000 years of human experience. This is ascertainable from reliable chronology preserved in the Bible itself. What will that year mean for humankind? Will it be the time when God executes the wicked and starts off the thousand-year reign of his Son Jesus Christ? It very well could, but we will have to wait to see."—Watchtower 5/1/67, p. 262'8 Does this mean that the year 1975 will bring the battle of Armageddon? No one can say with certainty what any particular year will bring. Jesus said: “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows.” (Mark 13:32)'—Watchtower 5/1/68, p. 272-273
>>18540391"'Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ. If these two periods run parallel with each other as to the calendar year, it will not be by mere chance or accident but will be according to Jehovah’s loving and timely purposes. Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth. It does not necessarily mean that 1975 marks the end of the first 6,000 years of Jehovah’s seventh creative “day.”'—Watchtower 8/15/68, p. 499“Does this mean that the above evidence positively points to 1975 as the time for the complete end of this system of things? Since the Bible does not specifically state this, no man can say."—Awake! 10/8/68 p. 15"How close we may exactly be to the end of the present divisive system of things cannot be predicted, as Jesus reported that even he did not know the day or the hour at the time of his earthly ministry. (Matt. 24:36)"—Watchtower 5/1/70, p. 273
>>18540391'Jehovah's Witnesses around the world are familiar with these facts, and no one should add any personal claims as to what will happen before or during the year 1975. There are no Scriptural grounds for any claims, and they could have a detrimental effect on the preaching work. Strive, therefore, that you 'all speak in agreement and that there be no divisions among you but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.' (1 Cor. 1:10) For concerning that day and hour nobody knows."—Matt. 24:36.'—Letter to all congregations, 2/22/72"Another feature of the program emphasized that we should serve Jehovah, not with a certain date in view, but with eternity in view."—Watchtower 10/1/72, p. 602'True, the most accurate Bible chronology available indicates that 6,000 years of human existence will end in the mid-1970’s. So these Christians are intensely interested to see if that will coincide with the outbreak of the “great tribulation” of our day that will eliminate all wicked ones on earth. It could. But they are not even attempting to predict exactly when the destruction of Satan’s wicked system of things will occur. They are content to wait and see, realizing that no human on earth knows the date.—Matt. 24:36.'—Watchtower 6/15/74, pp. 378-379
>>18540391'The publications of Jehovah’s witnesses have shown that, according to Bible chronology, it appears that 6,000 years of man’s existence will be completed in the mid-1970’s. But these publications have never said that the world’s end would come then. Nevertheless, there has been considerable individual speculation on the matter. So the assembly presentation “Why We Have Not Been Told ‘That Day and Hour’” was very timely.'—Watchtower 10/15/74, p. 635'But nobody should get the idea that, simply by chronology, he can calculate the time of that “coming” of Christ for executing judgment. Christ himself told his apostles: “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.”—Matt. 24:36.Now, we know that Jesus Christ had been in heaven with his Father at the time of earth’s creation. (John 1:1-3; Col. 1:13-17) He knew the exact time of the creation of both Adam and Eve. (Gen. 1:26, 27) He knew precisely when 6,000 years of human history would be completed. He knew exactly when God’s seventh creative day, his great “rest” day began and when it would end. (Gen. 2:1-3) Yet, with all his perfect knowledge of chronology, when he was on earth he did not know the day and hour of his execution of judgment on this world, prior to when his thousand-year reign begins. (Rev. 20:4-6) How, then, could any human today possibly figure it out?'—Watchtower 1/1/75, pp. 9-10
>>18540391"Does this mean that Babylon the Great will go down by 1975? Will Armageddon be over, with Satan bound, by then? ‘It could’ acknowledged F. W. Franz, the Watch Tower Society’s vice-president, after posing similar questions at the “God’s Sons of Liberty” District Assembly in Baltimore, Maryland. However, he added, in essence: ‘But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975."—1975 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, p. 256Now that it has been established by you lied, please apologize
>>18539683That Godless place is amongst the most needing of missions.
