Every place in the country outside of the few walkable parts of cities looks like pic. It’s fucking soulcrushing. Even the eastern euros and arabs have it better.
>>18537244the top half has SOVL too, but you just don't get it.
>>18537244>Greco-Romans>Islamic Minarets clearly visible
>>18537244the top image isn't a rural town, its a highway
>>18537244There are three main reasons. 1. the US is car centric for whatever fucking reason. 2. The US is a newer country so it didn't have time to build aesthetically pleasing things before car centrism and rigid zoning laws. 3. modern corporations value profit and maximizing ROI over making things look nice
>>18537248Yes, the eastern roman empire was conquered by muslims
>>18537244>t. posted from India
That top picture completely one-shotted leftists lmao
>>18537251It's really almost exclusively 1 and 3. You can see the death of american aesthetics happen well into the 20th century, and you can find plenty of pretty places in Europe built after zoning laws became standard.In fact, you can even point at a key conceptual divide in zoning philosophies, which is the complete disdain burgers have for mixed use zoning vs euros treating it as the baseline standard.>mfw I went to look up the exact dates for the peak of separate zoning in the US (immediately post ww2 btw) and turns out the foremost proponent was a jew while his main opponent wasn't
>>18537244With some simplification I think American culture is Pragmatic (in the William James sense). Another term for it might be "instrumental rationality" but it basically means is that things are good if they "work" or are functional in some kind of way. Form follows function. Like even American religion can be this way, you'll hear people say religion can be good because it helps people go through life. There's a bunch of urbanists on X who dream up idealized cities and you can come up with some aesthetic philosophy but the top image really just comes down to moving people and goods efficiently. Also air travel makes more sense than passenger trains if you're traveling across the country because you can do it in three hours rather than spending 30 hours on a train. America can look like a weird liminal space to Europeans who are used to things being smaller in size, it's like if you built cities out of MS Paint drawings and then stretched them out to 4000x4000.Also look at American cars and trucks. Especially older ones. I think there's a lot more Asian (or really Japanese) influence now in design, but a funny thing I like to contrast is Battletech (American game) vs. Japanese mechas. Especially the older 1980s stuff.https://youtu.be/d9gKPfYw2Yk
>>18537244*cherrypicking*
>>18537244Answer: these are gas stations built near interstates i.e. no communities. That said, the pioneer mindset dictates that the little house on the prairie don't need no community. There are small towns that somehow still exist with their aesthetics intact after 50+ years of Walmart and NAFTA hollowing them out. They are mostly upper crust inhabited and dutifully maintained at this point. Be glad Yuros, that the EU hasnt found a way to outsource everything to China, India, or Mexico like the Jew S has.
>>18537322>Answer: these are gas stations built near interstates i.e. no communities.Funny thing is there's a bunch of World Cup fans coming to my neck of the woods and they're gravitating towards the Fort Worth Stockyards, which we turned into a Old West tourist attraction in the 1970s precisely to bilk these people out of their money. It's fascinating to these Europeans because of movies so it looks exotic, and it is charming, but when it was actually in operation as a stockyard it was a commercial livestock market alongside a railyard. It wouldn't have read as some "cute" heritage-like village because they slaughtered and processed animals and stuff there. That stuff is kino though:https://youtu.be/8XkHsinz7oUBut was also much more garish than people think because we visually don't interpret it that way now. Like what comes across as old-timey Western is bricks and natural brown wood because that looks rustic but (a) only the most durable structures from that time survived anyways (b) there were a lot of shacks and sheds piled up all over the place (c) a lot of that shit was painted in bright red, green, or yellow to stand out (like that commercial strip mall area in the OP) but the pics are all in black and white so it doesn't appear that way.
>>18537279Can't beat the Powerbroker. Robert Moses forever baby.
>>18537244Whoever made this post obviously never lived in Europe, there's a reason why those rural towns are populated by 70 year olds and every single young person leaves and moves to Munich/Paris/Milan/London Rural Spain is fucking empty and Bulgaria is going extinct within our lifetimes at the current rate of population decline lol
>>18537279>turns out the foremost proponent was a jew while his main opponent wasn'tWhite Americans unironically need to take responsibility for their own fuckups. You're delusional if you think most rural white conservatives aren't pro-car and anti-urban in the US, you can even see them chimping out on Eurofags over at /pol/ every single time this topic comes up. Hating Cities is a creed in modern day American Right Wing thought.
>>18537500>White Americans unironically need to take responsibility for their own fuckups.Antisemitism is scapegoating and is about avoidance of responsibility, yeah. I'm not even saying people have to love Jews or even like them, the more you meet you might like them even less, but still that's what it is.
>>18537504It's just annoying when it's inappropriate or misplaced for the situation. Like yeah a frustration and suspicion of Jewish organizations influencing US policy towards Israel is a valid concern and source of resentment, that's an actual direct link between ethnotribal interests and fifth columnists having a negative impact on your life. Bitching about how suburban white Americans purposefully destroyed their own cities to avoid blacks or sell more automobiles, gasoline and tires (GM, Ford, Exxon, etc... weren't controlled by Jews after all lmao) is not a valid one though, you did that one to yourselves and CONTINUE to willingly do that, as voting patterns clearly show.
>>18537554But they didn't. They just opted to leave for the suburbs, whatever happened after they left can't be blamed on them
>>18537562>They just opted to leave for the suburbsHow do you think the infrastructure for the suburbs works bro, you ever tried living in a typical Houston suburb without a car?Also the whole virtuesignaling in Republican politics nowadays about "urbanites" being gay and satanic vs "rural" (i.e suburban soccer moms driving SUVs) being the real America and that's why we have to defund any infrastructure that isn't a highway for cars
>>18537575If you're going to act like violent nogs you can't blame anyone that can afford to do so getting the fuck out of dodge>ah sheeit muhfugga y u be crying my son be clownin on yours and now that yboi be in the hospital an shit, numsayin *bix noods*
>>18537244The US is a country based on fakeness. Everything that happens or gets built is carefully planned by someone else for some further motive. Nothing is built organically for the original purpose of why it was actually needed. Beauty can only happen when the human spirit is left free to express itself.
>>18537495Europeans (and people in general) move to cities to find jobs, not because they love cities. Most sane Europeans will tell you that big city life sucks compared to rural towns.Also you're mixing general population decline with urbanization when they're two separate things.
>>18537244Because of cars.
>>18537663this is also true of Europe, at least since 1989-91but Europe is old so it still has SOVL from older stuff
>>18537244The US DID focus on making the communities aesthetically pleasing... just not the poor ones.In Europe, ample public tax dollars and desire to get the most out of them resulted in beautiful common places. In US, the tax dollars mostly are just given to the wealthy and the tax dollars spent on common areas are just buying a crooked contractor or the cheapest possible bidder.
>>18537755Where is this, and why is there such a dense concentration of amenities? I'm guessing it's somewhere on the edge of a national park like the Appalachians or Adirondacks and there are no amenities for 80 miles either side of it
>>18537500>White Americans unironically need to take responsibility for their own fuckupsRecognizing and dealing with threats IS taking responsibility.
American towns are very nice, especially in the Northeast
>>18537755What are you trying to demonstrate in this pic? It only makes you look even more subhuman by reminding the viewer that nature is being destroyed and the view is being ruined for this.
>>18537244>"rural town">posts a villageHave a town
>>18537575>Also the whole virtuesignaling in Republican politics nowadays about "urbanites" being gay and satanicIts not a solely right wing phenomenon. Picrel had the same belief on the left.
>>18537244To better accomodate cars. Cities were completely torn up for this purpose in the mid 20th century. Most retarded decision ever made in all of US history.
>>18537663It isn’t. Eurojeets just seethe that we are genuinely happy while they’re a bunch of sad-sacks so they cope by saying it’s fake.
>>18537252>>18537248Byzantine shouldn't destroyed Vandals and Goths, it can prevented Islamic and Venetian rise.
>>18537848It's just a highway interchange. All those buildings clustered in the middle of the picture are restaurants, motels, gas stations, convenience stores, and auto shops. Businesses that are patronized by people traveling. The area immediately around it is either farmland or woodland, you can see farmhouses and silos in the background going off into the hills. If not for the interchange, then that would just be a few more fields for farming, probably.>>18538271>nature is being destroyedOh no a few hundred acres of mediocre farmland got turned into amenities for travelers. The horror.
>>18538306Cope. Subhuman "architecture" only looks worse and more out of place in that context.
>>18537248accurate depiction of europe
this isnt US fault, all modern towns and cities are disgusting looking, if anything they're nicer in US. As with many things its the fault of the democracy and the rule of the poor. We can no longer have nice things. Lets say Paris didnt have Eiffel tower. Could it ever be built in 2026? Nope. The general public would never allow for it.
>>18537667>Most sane Europeans will tell you that big city life sucks compared to rural towns.What coping fantasy is this lmao I guarantee you the majority of young adults in Europe are enjoying life in cities way more. People are only forced to raise families elsewhere due to costs, not because they yearn for the monotony of dealing with village bums and nosy old neighbors
>>18538306>It's just a highway interchange. All those buildings clustered in the middle of the picture are restaurants, motels, gas stations, convenience stores, and auto shops. Businesses that are patronized by people traveling.>The area immediately around it is either farmland or woodland, you can see farmhouses and silos in the background going off into the hills. If not for the interchange, then that would just be a few more fields for farming, probably.I know, I meant that it looks like twice as many as usual so is it a particularly well-used junction, motorway, highway, etc? And what state or region?
>>18538281>Higher % of jeets over total population than any EU country>Higher chronic depression rate than any EU country>call Europeans "jeets">pretend you're the happiest nation on earthToo much projection to handle, mutt. Get a hold of yourself.
>>18538325OP's image isn't even a town, it's literally a highway interchange. Those are businesses that cater to truckers and other people driving long distances. This isn't a thing that really exists in Europe because people travel by train, and most of their countryside has long been carved up into townships, villages, and hamlets. In America there are many places where you can drive for 8 hours without encountering a single real town. A place like this is intended as a place to stop while you're traveling through what is basically wilderness or just a single step removed from wilderness.
>>18537667>Europeans (and people in general) move to cities to find jobs, not because they love cities.Actually, most young people who grow up in small towns move to cities because they are bored and are desperate to meet new people. Small town life can be stifling for a restless young person. Not me, personally, I love the slow pace and solitude, but I have always been a notorious loner in my town. Most people in my generation left as soon as they could for the nearest big city. Only a couple ever came back.
>>18538348Imagine bringing up noisy neighbors as a reason for leaving rural towns, as if cities are not the absolute worst in terms of noise pollution.>>18538419My point was that most people don't actually like living in cities, they like the opportunities (mostly jobs and education, maybe relationships if you're the social type) that come along with being there. And this isn't about Europeans in particular either, it's about common human behavior throughout most cultures and history.
>>18537244If you go to rich areas they are aesthetically pleasing.Things people are told they ‘don’t need’ the rich still have
>>18538407You seem disturbed. Maybe you should get on SSRIs
>>18538279Leaves people out like me who never learned to drive. I guess i have ride transit with Africans then.
>>18537500That’s what I want, accountability & resonsibility. No excuses for any races or cultures, all judged as deserved
>>18537729Is there any place that exists with minimal to no hate speech laws but also is accommodating to non-drivers like me?
>>18538479Boston, DC, NYC.
>>18537244despite?How do you think we got wealthy. The mindset that built the wealth would never allow the aesthetically pleasing towns. They are antithetical to each other.
Basically, building and housing are structuraly very expensive as it is and they have to be as cost effective and as riskless as possible. Housing and building development in the United States is often inefficient because the approval and construction process is slowed by restrictive zoning laws, lengthy permitting procedures, environmental reviews, neighborhood opposition. Basically, all that amounts to very limited aesthetic options and not much innovation or creativity in design. City policies like sprawl and property taxes rather than more efficient land value taxes also encourage this but also encourage people to speculate on land as less risky. This means you can actually waste more money risking development than actually just owning it.
>>18537244You know what's really fucked up about that pic??That American town up at the top is breezewood PA. It's not to far from where i live and every time i have to go up to PA i go through there as it's the last hub before the turnpike. IRL the Perkins is Abadoned, the Diner's abadoned, the one hotel in the picture is burned down and the other is abadoned and half the gas stations you se are closed now.Going through there now it feels like making your way through some post apocalyptic town from Fallout.(Links bellow to prove i'm not bullshiting) It's kind of eerily poetic in a way that a picture that's become a meme for late 2000s american consumerism is now a burned out husk barely scraping by selling gass to people trying to get the fuck out as quick as possible.. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eEQ3u_IShk>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU8paOQMTfQ>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqwo9EPTWrk>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBcy-dVhWMw
>>18537250It's also more spread out when you see it from something other than an intentionally misleading angle.
>>18538348>What coping fantasy is this lmaoRuraloids constantly have to convince themselves that everyone really does want to live in the middle of nowhere with access to nothing and having to drive two hours into a crummy run down town to get your groceries for the month (don't make enough money for more than one trip because you live in a low wage shithole bereft of civilization).
>>18540008An important fact that most people don't realize is that the majority of development companies are owned by private equity firms. It's a big reason why the construction industry is the only sector of the US economy that has actually become less efficient overtime. This is a big reason why construction is so hard to do in the US.
>>18537244>Rural town USA>is actually a highway service station Behold! Merry old England!
>>18540306When did it become abandoned? I know a lot of highway businesses got hit hard by Covid. Since 2021 I've seen a lot of abandoned motels
>>18540384Slowly, but like much of the rest of the country, the 2008 crash is what started the tailspin.
>>18537244you're not med joao paco de silvia sanchez
>>18537244>Mostar>Populatio 113.000>Rural
>>18537248this is in bosnia
>>18538275where in the hell is this, it can't be the uk due to plates, but there's a british flag all over the place
>>18540384>>18540409Yeah it started going to shit pre-covid but corona definately added fule to the fire.The one hotel burned down in 2019 and a big reason it still sits as is 7 years later is that it wasn't worth reopening during the pandemic. I heard when the owners finally wanted to rebuild they ran into some issue with the insurance company.
>>18538375>I know, I meant that it looks like twice as many as usual so is it a particularly well-used junction, motorway, highway, etc? And what state or region?It’s Breezewood, Pennsylvania, where the Pennsylvania Turnpike meets another interstate highway, and as others have mentioned, it’s surrounded by forests, farms and mountains. A few years ago on a long road trip I needed a place to crash and ended up at a cheap Indian motel at the exact POV of that infamous photo, making a point to get coffee at that McDonald’s the next morning. This “Gas Vegas” meme is Murica in the minds of many people but it’s no worse than the service area off any major highway in the developed world.
>>18537244People just complain about the pretty rural towns being boring because there's "nothing to do."
>>18540604Very obviously Greece
>>18540986You also absorb all the negative externalities of the infrastructure, or rather, the lack of it. Which include verything from social, professional, health and so on.
>>18537245it has sovl in the same way pripyat, ukraine does
>>18537296that looks fine, what exactly is your complaint?
>>18537244No point building anything nice when it'll get ruined by non whites.
>>18537500they're anti-city because they don't want to live among criminal niggers. unfortunately, even living in a shithole with zero amenities no longer guarantees respite from diversity, so we may as well have nice cities again
>>18541125>even living in a shithole with zero amenitiesYou don't really know how nice American suburbs are, if you think they have no amenities. A suburb is basically takes the concentrated wealth of a city and spreads it out over a larger geographic area. Whereas a city gives just about anybody a close proximity to luxury and economic opportunity, a suburb raises the barrier to entry to its community by requiring personal transport. Most of the amenities you want to visit are still within a 15 minute journey of where you live, 20 at the longest, but only if you have a car. Public transit is only added to these communities grudgingly, most do not actually have bus lines within the communities themselves, but "nearby" requiring a 5-10 minute walk just to reach the bus stop or station where you will have to wait even longer for the bus to reach you (bus routes are much longer and buses less frequent in the suburbs) and then spend even longer waiting for the bus to take you where you want to go, which isn't even usually a direct stop but something "nearby" requiring more walking by foot. It's a miserable experience... if you don't have a car.If you have a car, then suburbs are great. As somebody who has lived in one most of his life, I can tell you that I rarely spent more than 20 minutes driving anywhere I wanted to go. That meme about "drive 30 minutes to get groceries" has never been my experience, and there's a huge variety of shops and entertainments available within a 15 minute drive of where I live. The "15 minute community" still applies, it just requires a car, in the suburbs, and that is intentional, as a barrier to entry to keep out the riffraff.
>>18541143>having dogshit public transit and artificially inflating housing prices, as well as having the entire area be a net drain on the city (all those low density roads and water and sewer lines aren't being covered by that few people per area) is actually good because it walls out "ethnic people"Americans will genuinely say this without a hint of shame.
>>18541143>The "15 minute community" still applies, it just requires a car, in the suburbs, and that is intentional, as a barrier to entry to keep out the riffraff.it's not 1950 anymore, most nons can drive and many of them are moving to the burbs. now you've got all the negatives of life outside the city with an ever shrinking list of positives
>>18541143Suburbs are the same identical overpriced cookie cutter HOA homes copy pasted throughout with fast food chains and grocery stores within massive parking lots. Huge variety of entertainment only being in the city proper, not the suburb itself, unless you consider the occasion AMC to equate to a huge variety of entertainment.There's absolutely nothing worth liking about suburbs.
>>18541146Suburbs were actually made to deflate housing prices, originally. It's only because they stopped building them after 2008 that prices skyrocketed. Without suburbs, housing the cities would be unbelievably expensive, even more than it already is. The reason the big cities are now unaffordable for most people is precisely because the construction of new suburbs was throttled for over a decade, and they've only really started building again in the last few years.>as well as having the entire area be a net drain on the citySee, this is what I mean about you having no idea what you're talking about. Suburbs aren't a "drain" on anything, their infrastructure isn't paid for by the city, it's paid for by the property taxes of the suburb's own residents. In my current case, the major city that my suburb exists in orbit of is actually not even in the same county, the city is so massive that it has a county for itself and its major districts, and the suburb I live in (one of 4 major suburbs around it) has a separate county comprise of 2 of those major suburbs. As a result, we not only have our own municipal taxes but county-level taxes as well to draw from. The city doesn't pay for our roads, our sewers, or energy lines, we do. And they are better maintained than the city's, and our county runs a budgetary surplus that they usually reimburse the public with.The only thing we share with the city on a funding level is the metro transit system, but the city contains the vast majority of the bus lines, virtually all the light rail lines, all the shuttle lines (except 1, between the local airport and the city's international airport) and multiple taxi services including ubiquitous uber and lyft and other ride share apps. We have to kick in to maintain our paltry few bus lines even though we get almost no use out of them, and pay our fair share.
>>18541156>most nons can driveIt's actually far less common for millennials and younger generations to get their driver's license as teenagers, if they get it at all. My own two best friends, for example, did not get their licenses until they were in their 30s. >and many of them are moving to the burbsYes, the suburbs are growing again, thanks to building beginning to pick up finally. They are building lots of low-income housing now in many suburbs: high rise (for the burbs this means 4-5 stories) apartments, and lots of multiplex housing. They built several hundred duplex and quadplex houses only about 20 minutes away from where I live in the last few years. I'm not sure how well they're selling, though.
>>18541159>it's paid for by the property taxes of the suburb's own residentsProperty taxes are nowhere close to covering those in most cities.
>>18541158>Suburbs are the same identical overpriced cookie cutter HOA homes copy pasted throughout with fast food chainsAs opposed to the exact same apartment blocks with tiny units copy/pasted thousands of times? Really? You think this is a mark against suburbs when cities have far FAR more repetitive, samey architecture? Or is the fact that it's built densly, instead of spread out, somehow more redeeming? There is pretty much never a case where lots of housing built all at once for low-middle income tenants looks "diverse and special". It's mass produced, so it looks mass produced. Regardless of where it's built. Only the rich, or those fortunate enough to inherit a generational family home in the country (the two are often the same), can afford to live in bespoke, customized dwellings with a unique history.>Huge variety of entertainment only being in the city proper, not the suburb itselfNot true at all. I'd like to see you list some of these supposed entertainments that can only be found in the city. I can find lively clubs and bars in the suburb not even 15 minutes away. There are book stores, game shops that host tournaments for various games, there's rec centers with swimming pools, basketball courts, tennis courts, and volleyball courts. I don't think pickle ball is that big in the burbs, though, so maybe the city has that over us, but I always saw it as a pretentious affectation of the upper class. I can attend music performances in the burbs, I can go to movies, I see stage performances (though I will admit the productions are fewer and lower budget than the ones in the city), and we have a great variety of restaurants here. Not fast food, but restaurants. Within a 15 minute's drive I can eat French, German, Iraqi, Greek, Egyptian, Indian, Sri Lankan, Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mexican, Italian, Spanish etc. Though I think my specific suburbs are a lot wealthier in terms of culinary variety than most.
>>18541170It's just the biggest pool of money, but you're correct there 's other taxes besides that, it's just tedious to list them all and none of them contribute nearly as much as the property taxes the county collects. The property tax in a county with a large suburb can be quite high, my own county has the second highest property tax in the entire state, and we have some of the best schools and best maintained infrastructure to show for it.
>>18538479Hate speech laws do not exist in the US. There was one instance in the 1950s when they went to the Supreme Court and were laws against provocative racist hate speech were upheld (Beauharnais v. Illinois) but since the 1960s that precedent has been tacitly overruled. Just don't go around saying "nigger" and simultaneously instigating fights with blacks, because the liberal DAs will try to tact a charge of hate crime. t. lawyer
>>18541176>far FAR more repetitive, samey architectureI don't think you've ever been to a city in your entire life. In suburbs, the cookie cutter houses are all identical and most importantly, are all that there is to see in the suburbs. There is literally nothing else there, with the only break in the monotony being the diversity in architecture that McDonald's and Chick fil A provides along with all the excessively large parking lots. There is absolutely nothing else. If you think cities, even dogshit cities like Jacksonville, are worse off in this regard, or even come remotely close to being as bad, then you are either objectively retarded or intentionally lying to yourself.>There is pretty much never a case where lots of housing built all at once for low-middle income tenants looks "diverse and special". So your argument is that projects are worse than suburbs and are projecting projects, which usually consist of a block or two on average, as being representative of the entire cities in which they are located? lol Projects are a small fraction of most cities. Not even Detroit is made up of mostly projects. Whereas copy pasted homes ARE the majority of suburbs, along with fast food and parking lots. That's all there is. No culture, no identity, no life. >I'd like to see you list some of these supposed entertainments that can only be found in the city.Literally name any form of entertainment or activity. It will exist in the city. Football, basketball, and baseball stadiums, orchestras, concert halls, live theater, most major martial arts, most kinds of clubs and bars, most kinds of restaurant. If your suburbs contains most of these within it, sorry to say but you don't actually live in a suburb, you live in a medium-large sized city.
There is evidence that suburbanization actually in the long term destroys human interaction and the spaces that structure it. A lot of social problems from single motherhood, political violence, self-harm and drug use are conencted to this loss. Even in cases where there are entertainment venues, especially as part of city revitlization plans, the actual demand craters for them often because it pushes people and makes it harder at multiple levells for people to be social.
Suburban spaces either correlate with or cause spikes in violence but then a drop in said violence. It does correlate heavily with decreased coupling, marriage, and higher rates of depression as well.
The people get the most benfit from suburban development are real estate developers. A lot of tax issues and poverty are connected to this because of the policies that enabled it. Suburbanization and the suburbs, both the process and the system itself, is heavily subsidized through federal mortgage programs, highway spending, and tax policy. The Federal Housing Administration and the federal government systematically encouraged suburban growth while disadvantaging urban neighborhoods. There is some arguments even that a lot of racial policing was not racial at first but actually centered on these housing policies and then racialization developed after the fact. Even little policies like mandatory minimum parking lots are huge subsidizes designed to benefit suburbs. One of the more odd things about this system as that urban centers are acutally funding suburbs often in practice.
if you will the narratives of race changed as suburbanization occured and retroactively were fitted to fit the story of urbanization vs suburban. There was a very concious choice to frame the suburban as ideal at first and then natural after the fact.
One of the major reasons why it is argued that political debate developed the way it did has to do with fear real estate industry, elites, and industry feared land value taxes in the United States and are attempts to politcize aganist it. The suburbs, rural and urban as a concept reflect really different ways land developers work around things. Periodicaly, land value taxes are redisovered in US policy and realized to solve a lot of poverty and housing issues and are seen as a neutral technolog. Basically, something progressives, conseratives, liberals and nationalists can use. Real estate development, banking and mortage companies and so on freak out and as a result pay a lot of money recasting the politics of it in other terms that don't follow that model and even lobbying to ban such taxes.
Basically, a lot of the current political enviornment and institutional policy scape exist to prop up real estate, land development, and more. This also explains why a lot of housing policy is seemingly designed to fail because it has to at some point please these individuals. Things like being aganist remote work and this also explains why policies like rent control are used in ways that don't reflect what economics literature states about them.
>>18537244MFW
