Why do the members of this woke liberal modernist church attempt to shame me for the “modernism” of my church?
>>18537859>if someone is a godless sodomite but also isn't oneThe Vatican has always relied on niggercattle having a weak grasp on logic.
>>18537859>Catholicism =/= Christianity Who cares what Catholics believe about anything? They're all Hellbound.
>>18537859If you replaced "is gay" with any other sin, this would uncontroversial wouldn't it? Jesus forgives all sins.
>>18537929No, making light of other sins and tolerating them is not acceptable either. Every sin must be repented of. Homosexuality is also worse than most other evils, being among the worst sins.
>>18537929>If you replaced "is gay" with any other sinExcept the analogue for "is gay" would be "is a sinner", where "sinner" is embraced as a fundamental part of the person's identity as opposed to an unfortunate condition to be remedied.
>>18537931>Homosexuality is also worse than most other evilsIt's bad but not anywhere near the worse. God only mentions it twice in his law and then never brings it up again. Or maybe it wasn't that common in ancient Israel since absolutely nobody was ever denounced by God for doing it.In Ezekiel 22 God denounced Israel for sleeping with their neighbor's wives, for sleeping with their daughters in laws, with their sisters and with their father's wives, but not with other men.
>>18537967>God only mentions it twice in his law and then never brings it up againThat’s not true either. Read Romans 1
>>18537973When did Paul speak on behalf of God? Did he ever said, This is what Yahweh says, and the spoke on behalf of God like the prophets did? Where is it written that the word of God came to Paul and told him, Apostle of Christ, say this to the people?
>>18537931Evidence suggests its 11th worst at most
>>18537859Not Roman Catholic, and you should still stop modernizing your church, whoever you are. Only conservative choices should modernize. Of course the Roman Catholic Church would not judge. It is gay.Church should not have rock band music (contemporary xhristian music), anything other than KJV Bible, traditional hymns (old words means you are singing with everyone throughout the ages, not by yourself in your own isolated state), mega xhurches where your pastor doesn’t know anyone and is seeking material reward and #souls only not the quality of people’s worship and relationship with God, an actual personable sized church where you can actually see your piano player or choir and the lights are on, bold faith lens preaching believing that God is capable of doing anything but wise enough to abstain from follies (rolling around on the floor and pretending magic spells are making people healed and making noises with your mouth on the microphone and televising it and asking for money to be flying from heaven, or just gays in positions in your church at all). Basically no Roman Catholicism because that’s where all that stuff came from in the first place to water down the traditional prairie Bible believing church made for Man in order to make the Roman Catholic Church look like it is still the only true church of God.God said if you have sins (publically professing to be gay) and you sacrifice a calf in His name, then it is as if you had murdered a man. Likewise, if you sacrificed a goat, then it is like you poured swine’s blood, etc. Basically you are as bad as worshiping Baal in Israel.If you are a Christian, then you asked forgiveness of your sins from Jesus by his blood over you and you don’t have sin (washed white as snow) and living your life right with God right now.Most people still have sins but they are mediated and that isn’t showing up in worship service because you are showing up for God only and His Word, His Praises.
>>18537859Catholicism is cuckholdry
>>18537859You should really separate the type of catholic Pope Francis was from the trad-tards, at least mentally. And you shouldn't actually care about anything said trad-tards say because they tend to be embarassing clowns.>>18538092An African pentecostal weighs in.
If you showed up to church for events (circus: bringing food that must be eaten after service, games, events, specials, youth, friends, etc) then it isn’t about God. The main time is Sunday Morning , where we read and hear the Word of God preached, and the best time is the altar call to ask people if they accept Christ Jesus into their heart and His blood over their sins. Sunday morning is where it is heard in power. That is God’s moment. Also the people who did that for God got their reward Now. They don’t get it later in heaven. They belong to Jesus in Heaven, not you, you did get the reward of leading them to Him. Lots of people think they get a special seat in Heaven for having done it. Like saying the blind man born blind so Jesus could heal his blindness, means the blind man gets a lesser seat in Heaven because it was Jesus who healed him. And then when apostles healed in Jesus’ name, those people healed get lesser seats in Heaven because the apostles healed and saved them. The thing is that they got their reward now. If you are on the receiving end, it doesn’t mean you should despair because their giving was more blessed. It means your reward is later. Even if just in heaven. The first life is about recognizing that we are all burning up called aging and broken, but even in brokenness and burning there is still light and the stronger of us helping the weak and the weaker of us believing and thanking God still.>>18538103Nope, fundamental independent conservative republican maga American trump baptist.Just because you have “more souls” doesn’t make you right. I have seen it a million times. “But my church has more people! Heaven has to let us in! It would be unjust!”I rebuke your accusing spirit in the name of Jesu Christ.
Star Wars actually put it best when they showed Ben Kenobi and Yoda teaching Luke Skywalker that even though we are “the only ones left,” you should still teach the Force correctly. Patience, the old true ways, not the ways shown in the Academy, which was actually corrupt. As Yoda said, if you suffer because of loss, it will only lead to the dark side. You don’t suffer loss like Luke Skywalker said, “dad! Help me!” Even till the bitter end. One of the best moments in movie history, and that light far outshined anything the prequel trilogies had to offer. Because it demonstrated having faith and hope and love for a father who was on the dark side, even to death, who was getting hip and knee replacements in everywhere you can imagine.
True healing is having, even though reality appears you have not.
That’s a lesson every Zionist Jew needs to hear right now. Especially Netanyahu and his ugly attacks on Lebanon today. Every Crusade was waged in the vein of the dark side “because I do not have”.But every gospel sharing message was done in the belief “that I do have.” That’s why Christian’s and the gospel spread west and was never Roman Catholic. Spanish Inquisition was not Christianity. It was like the dark side version.
>>18538170>This is The Lady of Lebanon.All Christian nations have devolved into full blown idolatry. They have built high places.
>>18537859>if someone is unnatural and searches for the LORD, who am I to judge?He is right. It is not his job, or yours, to judge the Sons of God. Also Isa teaches in the Bible that if you judge someone, you will not be able to avoid judging yourself.
>>18538343God says gays must be killed so it is the 100% the job of God's priest to judge a gay man. Plus Paul even said to kick sexual immoral people out of the churc.
>>18537859The average politically conservative American evangelical church is light years more liberal than the Catholic Church theologically. Evangelicals can't see this fact because their brand of Christianity is more of an American political movement than a Christian denomination. They view conservatism vs liberalism in purely American political terms, but of course, Christianity is bigger, older and infinitely more transcendent than American politics.
>>18538415that's just because catholicism is simon says: the religion >he didn't ex cathedrically say...
>>18538115I like how you include "MAGA American Trump" like it's an integral part of your religious identity. Who knows, maybe it is. aybe you can't satnd those damn RINO Canadian neverTrump Baptists.
>>18538423No, Catholicism is not completely arbitrary like simon says. It is tied to historic Christianity. It changes over time, much more than the Orthodox Church, but there is a continuous connection to Church tradition which evangelicalism lacks completely. That's why evangelical services have devolved into Taylor Swift concerts.
>>18538452It doesn’t hurt to be happy with Trump that he is backing out of Netanyahu’s slaughter in Lebanon. Even he thinks he is crazy. Canada just passed Bill C-9, making it a crime to quote the Bible to gays. My small appreciation of nationalism may as well be received while Canada threatens churches for having signs that say men laying with men is an abomination unto God.King David was a king and a high priest. Prophet Nathan told him (Nathan means Gift of God by the way, and David means Beloved), that if he (David) would had just prayed and asked God for Bathsheba (if he needed much more than the wives and such that he had), then God would have given it him without sin. Since David lusted and took Bathsheba himself, and repented, God made it Hispromise to him that he would make it like he had never sinned with Bathsheba. This is how he received King Solomon. Another righteous King of Israel, who despite his sins, still gave us Jesus Christ.As a saved Christian by his blood, this means I too am a king and a high priest, of even lower place than a king, as I have no royal crown myself as an american, but Jesus Christ said this lower place has even more power than King David had in his day. Meaning I can ask God even much more and receive it without sin. And I do. I asked and received my wife who has same name as me and who promised to marry me in childhood and again as an adult. And I also asked for the kingdom of God and sought it first so these things are added unto me. So I shall have it. You can too if you just believe his Word.I don’t agree with everything trump does. I just know Obama was evil and didn’t represent me and Trump is common sense and is representing me better and I thank him for it. Do you thank your police and firefighters? They still have to go fight fires in Catholic Churches. I’m glad I don’t have to.
>>18538453Yes, yes, the pope can pal around with fags and troons as much as he likes but as long as no dogma comes out of it akchoally its still the fourteenth century in rome
>>18537929When you repent and turn to him, yeah.Guess what, Jesus will forgive a murderer.Part of that is not murdering people in the future.If you turn around and start killing for fun again, you've rejected Christ.
>>18538092>old words means you are singing with everyone throughout the ages, not by yourself in your own isolated state)But not the Catholic ones. Anything but those.Anyways you're wrong.It's not singing the same words that joins you in celebration of the mass of ages with the saints.Any unbeliever can sing words, this cannot unite them to the saints.It's partaking in the same sacrifice of the cross, celebrated continuously before God through the divine liturgy in heaven, which unites one to the saints through all time.Basically you're not actually worshipping God like the martyrs of the ante-Nicene church did, who worshipped in secret and made altars of their people's tombs in the catacombs of Rome, because you have abandoned and derided the very same mass they were willing to die in order to never let go of. The living center of the mass is constituted of the single highest act of worship known to the Christian faith. Bar none.>anything other than KJV BibleWhile it's nice that you have at least some standards, you should know that the Anglicans are crypto-papists too.It's just that, historically, they considered the king to be Pope of England.>and the lights are onYou should attend an Easter vigil sometime.>no Roman Catholicism because that’s where all that stuff came from in the first place lmao you're delusional and I'm sure you know next to nothing about the one holy catholic and apostolic church even though you *might* know about the Nicene Creed >to water down the traditional prairie Bible believing churchsecond great awakening was a manifest rejection of protestant "tradition"that's where your congregation probably comes from, same root as the Mormons sorry you have to find out like this man>up for God only and His Wordthe liturgy of the word is traditionally for catechumens, so that they may learn the faith, though it is edifying for everyonethese same catechumens were dismissed before the mass proper began though
>>18537859A person can be gay while also abstaining from the actual sinful act of sodomy.It's just how like you can be angry with someone but choose not to commit the sin of murder, or how you can wish you were rich but choose not to lie and steal.
>>18537996You’re a heretic. Paul was an apostle of the Lord Jesus, and spoke from God as he was carried along by the Holy Spirit like any other. Romans is the word of God.
>>18538735you're very gullible aren't you
>>18537859christcuck pick and choose from the bible anyhow so who's to say the pope cant do the same?
>>18538711You are going to hell by the way. Enjoy not knowing Jesus Christ the true Jesus Christ is not the worldly academic Jesus Christ you created. He is believed upon by the heart in faith, and the true church has nothing to do with anything of what you wrote. It comes from a pure heart believing in him, which you know nothing about. You only know the very twisted, dark side, worldly and carnal version of Jesus Christ just as you revealed to know. Your pride and arrogance is the likeness of Satan. And the gospel is the kingdom and the cross. Which a Roman Catholic cannot preach. The kjv bible didn’t come from your church. It came from us, and king James of Scotland and England = the word of a king, means there is power. Which the Bible says. And your own vulgar (vulgate) version says so. The difference is you fight for this world and your church.But our church isn’t of this world like yours. I think everyone knew I would say that, because you are going to hell so I pity your pitiful soul and where you are headed in eternity.I rebuke your Jezebel spirit of your church.
Living in Israel = my next door neighbor says “I am going to kill you! Pope is God!”= his next door neighbor says “No he isn’t! I am going to kill you both, Baal is God of the Jews!”= and his next door neighbor says “You’re all wrong and I am going to kill all of you! Mohammed is God!”Which is why Jesus Christ died on the cross in the first place and spread the gospel which means “the good news of the kingdom” , which is the very spreading of the kingdom in the first place.The pope did all the crusades, spreading the opposite of the good news. They spread the dark side version which Jesus Christ never taught us to do. He instead died to for us a kingdom not off this world.Which is why Satan is gay and burns in hell with all of his “you are either Zionist Jew or Palestine/Lebanon” today.
>>18537859OPINION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE CHURCH DOCTRINE.
>>18538822God had many times said “if there is just one good person that believes in me, then I wont just pour all of my anger and wrath on this whole city.”So actually, one persons belief (opinion) is all that is required for a double witness / Covenant with God.The pope is just wrong because sodom and Gamorah tried to rape the angels and Lot displeased God further by begging them to rape his daughters instead.A modern day homosexual saying he won’t rape you, he just wants to rape your children’s minds by exposing them to that they are gay in your church and it is a totally just as legit way of life as a righteous person. That’s how it starts anyway. But it leads to full on rape.
There’s more good to show if you’re already a sinner and still do good in life.What if a gay Christian assumes he’s going to hell after death but still donates to communities and objectively makes the lives of others better?Wow. A literal butt licking homosexual (who full expects to go to hell after death) has done more good in the world and contributed to more good in the world than a heterosexual abstinent who can’t enjoy life.Hating homosexuality innately has never not been a sign of the mentally retarded. Hating homosexual culture is another matter entirely. You can say the same about murderers and psychopaths who still know right from wrong and can kill people “for the greater good”, because they’re analytically autistic (a psycho would have no issue pushing a fatso in front of a moving train if it meant it would save everyone on board).
>>18538844Trvth Nvke
>>18538748>you didn’t believe something a rando on 4chan said? Very gullible
>>18538822>Here’s why I actually don’t have to follow the pope
>>18538844Even his good deeds are evil because they were not done out of genuine love for God and neighbor, but for some other reason, like a desire to be praised. All our righteousness is as filthy rags, and even a saint’s best deeds are sinful, how then will one who is outside of Christ and foreign to the Holy Spirit do anything good before God? He will perish in the fire unless he repents, and if he will be saved he must abandon himself and throw himself at the mercy of God in Christ, saying “Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me, a sinner”, and always seek Christ by word and sacrament so that he will have the forgiveness and righteousness of God.
>>18538843?BELIEF, AND OPINION, ARE NOT THE SAME THING.
>>18538881The head of your church believes it is ok to be gay.
>>18538863I FOLLOW CHRIST, AND SO DOES THE POPE; THE POPE IS THE PONTIFEX MAXIMVS, THE HIGHEST REPRESENTATIVE OF GOD ON EARTH; HE IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH; NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.ONE THING IS THE OFFICE OF SAINT PETER, AND ANOTHER THE PERSON OCCUPYING THE OFFICE: THE OPINIONS OF THE PERSON OCCUPYING THE OFFICE OF SAINT PETER DO NOT CONSTITUTE CHURCH DOCTRINE.
>>18538865>Even his good deeds are evil because they were not done out of genuine love for God and neighborThis sounds like denial. Even evil pieces of shit like Hitler had good qualities. Like a love for animals. The pedophile warlord prophet Mohammad condemned a woman to hell for torturing a kitten. If you can’t identify the good, even in the bad, then you are mentally and spiritually weak as an individual.
>>18538889God is not a utilitarian.
bump for papist humiliation
If the pope really was in favor of faggortry, why didn't he push to legalize gay marriage or make some explicit statement that sodomy isn't actually a sin? Why did he have a year long spat with a bunch of german bishops who wanted to do the same thing, instead of joining forces to pressure the rest of the church into accepting this? Maybe it's because journalists are retarded and wanted to will into reality a pope more liberal than he really is?
>>18540728>why didn’t he push to legalize gay marriage?WHO IS?Who is doing most of the pushing and muscle work in the world? Antifa in America. And antifa is bought, by George Soros foundation.Their agenda is very obvious. America is Christian, so it doesn’t obey the sound rules format God gave to the Jews and the Gentiles. But the Jews keep trying to subvert America and dominate it to treat it like it IS.So in china, can you run around vandalizing national monuments? No, you would get your head chopped off if you began funding an actual rebellion to the Communist Regime. Especially if you were talking absolute assassination of Xi and the communist government while within their country.So they like to do it to America because they can. We don’t chop people’s heads off.I think Trump should still have a public hanging for people vandalizing national monuments and assassination plots.You can’t write anything online anymore and the government not know. It’s just the way it is.
