Historically speaking, why didn't Cuba succeed despite having access to the entire world's market except the United States? They are supposed to be highly educated.
>>18539207>despite having access to the entire world's market except the United States?They didn't. Next question.
>>18539212What are some countries that have economic sanctions against Cuba in place? What countries have a total trade embargo against Cuba?
>>18539216>the U.S. sanctions foreign individuals and companies that do business with Cuba. Under expanded U.S. sanctions (including parts of the Helms-Burton Act), foreign entities that operate in designated sectors of the Cuban economy such as defense, energy, mining, and financial services.
>>18539229So the answer is the United States and no one else?
Honestly if you can't stop gaslighting and refuse to honestly discuss the historic reasons Cuba failed as an economy, why are you even ITT?
>>18539230>Try to trade with Cuba>Get economy destroyed by US sanctionsYeah sure if you want pretend to be retarded. We all know you don't actually believe that though.
>>18539230>you don't trade anything with Cuba or we will blacklist you>this basically only leaves a few countries trading with Cuba which Americans can't bully into submission, like the Chinese>hurrr it's only the US they are not allowed to trade withHuh?
>>18539236>>18539233So Cuba was economically thriving before the Helms-Burton Act? Is that your position?Or should we try to discuss the real reasons they could not develop?
>>18539236It's also why Cuba went to hell in the 90's. Every country willing to trade with them ceased to exist overnight. Imagine any country waking up one morning to find the entire world now refused to trade with them. Even big countries like China or the US would more or less immediately collapse.
Obama was normalizing Cuban relationships before the orange nigger nuked it.You don't hate neocons their retarded alt-righter puppets enough.
>>18539250>Every country willing to trade with them ceased to exist overnight. I3/4 of Cuba's "trade" was with the USSR. No country was willing to trade with them even pre-Helms-Burton. I wonder why. Could it have been due to some reason that's not America bad?
>>18539233>>Try to trade with Cuba>>Get economy destroyed by US sanctionsthis was never a thing stop being retarded
>>18539286Yeah a great power would never throw its weight around to achieve its goals. Great Powers just sit completely motionless like meditating buddha's.
>>18539295>would could might Is there any evidence that there were many countries who wanted to trade with Cuba but were deterred by the Helms-Burton Act? Did Cuba have a thriving export economy prior to HBA?
>>18539230Fidel shares a lot of blame for those sanctions existing in the first place. He knew what he was getting Cuba into when he nationalized all U.S. properties on the island. He fucked up Cuba’s economy for his own ego.
>>18539207>access
>>18539386There is no naval blockade of Cuba though. Is there a reason why Cuba's poor economic performance history can only be explained by made up reasons?
>>18539263Based Orange God for bullying communist scum
>>18539386If your anti-capitalist system relies on capitalist institutions to survive, then it was shit from the start.
>>18539250That's what they get for creating Santeria.
>>18539207Cuba has raped geography. Long and thin = long, expensive roads and railways. Coastal cuban citystates with jurisdiction over smaller islands would be more economically healthy, but the idea of "nation-state" does not permit this.
Rightful MUTT clay
>>18539791>Cuba has raped geography. Long and thin = long, expensive roads and railways.Makes sense. Long countries are universally poor, like Sweden, Finland, Norway, Britain, Italy, and Japan.
>>18539232You think Canada's economy would even work if it suddenly couldn't trade with the US and any state or company doing trade or investment with Canada got sanctioned or punished? Now imagine with an even smaller state that's also directly inside the US's imperial stomping grounds.
>>18539603Thoae aren't "capitalist" institutions, how the fuck is energy infrastructure a capitalist institution?>>18539763Are you some shitty evangelical?>>18539301>He knew what he was getting Cuba into when he nationalized all U.S. properties on the island.Gulfies nationalized their oil and got away with it.
>>18539791>>18539797BTFO
>>18539797Their infrastructure projects were suoer expensive and they still suffer setbacks and cost/maintainence inflation. Norway has a massive infrastructure maintenance backlog due to it's strong winters and mountainous roads. Several of those states are having a infrastructure crisis or incoming funding crisis.
>>18539929Yeah and Norway has a food shortage causing some people to eat banana peels and trash because their country is long.
>>18539923>Thoae aren't "capitalist" institutions, how the fuck is energy infrastructure a capitalist institution?The global economy is dominated by capitalists. The only way to not be capitalist is to not engage with it at all and become an autarky.
>>18539936Norway isn't being blockaded right now.>>18539943>The global economy is dominated by capitalistsOligarchs and rampant state capture actually. >The only way to not be capitalist is to not engage with it at all and become an autarky.Extreme fallacy. Are you some LatAm/BT right-winger?
>>18539947>Norway isn't being blockaded right now.Good news, comrade. Neither is Cuba.
>>18539958Cuba does have a blockade on it.
>>18539964no sweaty it doesn't
>>18539972The oil blockade is still ongoing Jorge.
History would not be the right way to analyze this. It would be economics. Centralized planning, nationalization, and restrictions on market incentives basically screwed their ecomomy up. A focus on sugar production was also a bad move because it basically meant that they could never relaly compete with other countries with more responsive markets especially in competing with Brazil. The sectors like tourism that respond to traditional price signals worked well. The more internal focused things that involved state planning could not really keep up with actual price signals. This is why they have so many shortages, surpluses, and inefficiencies. This all got worse after the USSR fall. It removed external support and its limited economic diversification with reliance upon much bigger economices.
>>18539975On Venezuelan oil, that started in Dec 2025. Was Cuba prosperous before that?
>>18539297Cuba's economy since the colonial era was always based more or less entirely around exporting Sugar and Fruit, but especially Sugar. After the Spanish-American War that Sugar and Fruit was primarily bought by the US. That trade naturally vanished with the Embargo. At that point Cuba shifted to the Warsaw Pact countries. So after the revolution its economy was basically exchanging sugar for finished goods and technical expertise from the east bloc. Of course 1991 comes around and suddenly the East Bloc is no longer taking their sugar. So everything basically goes to hell. The sad fact for Caribbean countries (not just Cuba) is that growing Sugar and a few other cash crops like Banana's is about all their geography/climate is good for, so their prosperity is pretty much entirely dependent on their not being cut off.
>>18539987What fucked their economy up was being an export economy that everyone refused to take exports from.
>>18539923>Are you some shitty evangelical?No, fuck Santeros. God's wrath rests on them.
>>18539207>Historically speaking, why didn't Cuba succeed despite having access to the entire world's market except the United States?Because the "market access" is a midwit argument repeated by people who can't comprehend economic policy.
>>18539263>>18539405Obama was the one who armed Poroshenko and goaded him into invading the Donetsk and Lukhansk Soviet republics, killing 14,000. He is even more Fascist than Trump is.
>>18539207They didn't reform to state capitalism.
>>18541271>state capitalismDry water. Peaceful warfare. Competent black people.
