anyone love how Jim Jones was retconned by the media to be a Christian fundie extremist who got 700 people killed while totally whitewashing his Marxist beliefs and ties to Jimmy Carter, or that most of his followers/victims were black?
How did so many black people let whitey trick them into selling all their shit and living in the Guyanese jungle?
>>18539924Literally over a billion nigs worldwide pray to White Jesus.
>>18539924He was a perfect amalgam of Midwest Bible thumper, Bay Area new age bullshit and politically connected poverty pimp. There’s a certain kind of charismatic white preacher or politician that resonates with black folks. Look at Bill Clinton or any number of slick big haired faith healers on TV.
>>18539792a commune blasting angela davis screeching over loudspeakers isnt real communism chud
>>18539792he also openly said God doesn't exist, would throw Bibles to the ground, and say "Our salvation isn't gonna come from up there, it's gotta come from down here."
>>18539959Yup. Blacks love this kinda stuff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4QkE11IPf8
>>18539792they also tried to pretend Lee Harvey Oswald was not a communist who lived in the USSR for a period
>>18540028they were portraying the USSR as a giant prison state, someone moving there and then getting bored and leaving undermined their propaganda
>>18540028he was a spy for the CIA
>>18540675eh more of an tool/some form of mkultra victim, if anything. probably like timothy mcveigh and most school shooters today: a sad, lonely young man who's willing to throw away their life, and gets pushed by forces greater than them to do so.>>18539792did the hippie movement kind of end with jonestown? did he attract a lot of hippie types, or was it mostly black people?
>>18539792It's bullshit, but in fairness, he did fit the mould of a cult preacher much more than he did someone who runs a political cult (of which there was no shortage of), he even did the psychosurgery thing faith healers love to do.>>18540845Not really, the people's temple is a seventies phenomenon chiefly, more of a post-hippie, post-vietnam new left phenomenon. Members were black People (mostly) with an upper/secondary crust of white (or otherwise educated) activist new left types. The membership actually complained about the activists being promoted over the brothes, so to speak.And by the time Jonestown happened his group was completely cut off from the American political scene, Jones actually fled to Guyana to escape scandal.
>>18539792Marxist beliefs and Christian fundie extremism are the same thing
>>18539924Jim Jones was barely white
>>18541335In terms of metaphysics, barely.
>>18539792Because Jonestown is primarily remembered in popular memory as a prime example of a creepy horror movie cult that did very bad creepy horror movie cult things, the politics are secondary to it because cults doing weird shit make for more exciting stories
>>18540852>It's bullshit, but in fairness, he did fit the mould of a cult preacher much more than he did someone who runs a political cult (of which there was no shortage of), he even did the psychosurgery thing faith healers love to do.I was reading a little bit about him, and he was interested in Pentecostalism pretty early on as a teenager. He grew up in a fucked-up family in poverty in Indiana. His dad was KKK member iirc and couldn't work because of poison gas injuries sustained during World War I. Jones was the weird smelly kid who'd wander around their small town butt naked, another family took pity on him and partially raised him and they were religious. He started the church in Indianapolis before moving it to the Bay Area. He also apparently attended Communist Party meetings in Indianapolis in the early 50s but that got shut down by McCarthyism. Also there was a progressive, civil rights etc. component to his church in Indiana but politics and religion aren't so cleanly seperated anyways.
>>18540852>seventies phenomenon chiefly, more of a post-hippie, post-vietnam new left phenomenonAlso think political cults can grow / fill-in after a movement hits its peak and starts to recede. A lot of people just become disillusioned and go back to being normies, but you also have politicized people with a feeling of moral enervation that needs to go somewhere, so a charismatic cult figure arrives as a receptacle for them to dump those feelings into.
>>18541640Oh yeah, he was a Father Divine (possibly one of the first Mega-Church pastors, hugely influential civil rights figure) disciple. I forgot about that, probably where he got the tricks.>Also there was a progressive, civil rights etc. component to his church in Indiana but politics and religion aren't so cleanly seperated anyways.All cults start somewhere, they don't emerge fully formed. Scientology was a self-help course before it was anything else.>>18541653I mean yeah, he only got where he was because of the failure of '68 plus the seventies sucking. Once the apocalypse fails to manifest only the weirdoes are left to pick up the pieces, see the great dissappointment for example.
