It seems that traditional Catholicism solved all problems concerning economic systems and class relations as well as ethics, morals and metaphyisics.Anything outside of Catholicism seems to be just stamp collecting when it comes to humanities.
>>18541249Name one problem Catholic theology specifically solved and how. Their biggest achievement is solving the "The Pope can't do whatever he wants" problem.
>>18541249Jesus thaught me how to pray to increase my height when i was 14.
>>18541255It solved the problem of evil and the ontology of being.
>>18541249You're thinking of current day Catholicism.
>>18541333I mean yeah, there are some weird currents but I'm not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
>>18541249«TRADITIONAL CATHOLICISM» IS A PLEONASM.
Regardless of whether it's true or not (I believe it is, but that's not my current point) you are correct that it solved these problems in the sense of providing quite a bit of stability and uniformity to an otherwise rather hectic and competitive part of the earth. Under Catholicism all was well in the sense that the only conflict involved was in crushing the odd minor heresy, but then the Reformation came along with the very explicit goal of bringing a lot more war and violence to Europe. The Enlightenment was marketed in the opposite manner by espousing peace, but we all know how that turned out. Europe lost its footing with the end of Catholic rule and has been tossing about in the waters ever since.
>>18541402Incorrect. Unless you very narrowly define tradition to only the tradition which enables the institution's hierarchy. If the hierarchy is deliberately ignoring tradition besides that validating itself to say the Crusades were evil there are obviously more and less traditional versions of Catholicism.
>>18541500YOU ARE RAMBLING.THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS «NONTRADITIONAL CATHOLICISM».
>>18541249haha OP I love froggo XD
>>18541410>it solved these problems in the sense of providing quite a bit of stability and uniformity to an otherwise rather hectic and competitive part of the earth.Exactly, the solutions pull on the normie common sense strings as well.
Bumping for Christ
>>18541249Truly this timeline went to shit after the Peace of Westphalia
>>18541249Yeah I guess the printing press fucked that up since they could no longer keep the masses ignorant of the Bible by keeping it in Latin . I guess bilbles translated into native languages was fuel for the Protestant reformation since the Catholic Church couldn’t gate keep the Bible any more . This is probaly one of the biggest blows to their power since they couldn’t push dogma from a priest class that was educated in Latin if no the commoner could read the foundational text and make their own interpretations.
>>18543542>Implying peasants could even readThe protestant reformation was not led by common people, it was greedy princes trying to take the communal lands of the Church
Ah yes, the wise and industrious peoples of the Catholic faith.
>>18543910>trying to take the communal lands of the ChurchGood, the church should not have land or wealth they don’t deserve. A nation’s property belongs solely to itself, not to any foreign organization
>>18543542You still need exegesis even if you can read it yourself.
>>18541402Nostra Aetate grants group immunity to jews and tells people not to believe their own eyes or be automatically excommunicated. Pope Francis bowed to idols. The modernists are trying to change what has been consistent since the beginning.
>>18544193What did they replace the monasteries with? Pubs and brothels.
>>18543910It was led primarily by clerics like Luther who were against the Church's corruption. The secular princes did join the reformation primarily out of self interest, however
>>18541249Most Catholic texts on economics and class relations are quite subpar - they mix very elementary symbolic understanding with superficial insights. Is it good enough for the common man? Yes. Will they be impressed by Catholic vocabulary and the fact they retained at least some symbolic understanding? Yes. But it's very far from a solution. As far as metaphysics goes, Catholicism is a pile of warm mud with an occasional gem here and there. Of course everyone gets off on Aquinas, but before and after him, Catholics didn't hesitate to revisit some of his premises and sometimes invert them, as Ockham did with God's Will/Freedom and Reason. And even if you for reason of aura held Aquinas as a golden standard, it will take years for you to learn his methods (basically translating everything to latin and calling it a separate thing) and after those years you will have a model down and precisely zero ways to check if it's true. Catholicism is based for not giving up some of the riches it collected across time. And that's good enough to outperform most other systems in this world. But its only actual solution is placing your faith in Jesus Christ. Which is right.
>>18541410>it solved these problems in the sense of providing quite a bit of stability and uniformity to an otherwise rather hectic and competitive part of the earth. Under Catholicism all was well in the sense that the only conflict involved was in crushing the odd minor heresyYou know nothing about medieval history.
