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Why is islam so weird?
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>not in the Quran
Into the garbage can it goes. It is not Islam.
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>>18541623
>Quranist nonsense
lol
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>>18541623
>The Hadiths e.g. the Arabian Talmud is not Islam
You're based but aren't Quranists like you considered heretics?
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>>18541633
>>18541630
>Quranist nonsense
Atheists really can't reason. They can't use logic. The Quran is the Word of God, the Hadith books are not. Simple math.

>oh, but the cattle say this and that
And will you follow the cattle or will you follow God?
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>>18541633
No one takes them seriously because they're either turbo-liberals or just traditional muslims with glasses and mustaches.
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>>18541623
>Hadiths are full of retarded shit that makes Islam look retarded so they must not be authentic
You can just say Islam is retarded anon. Most religions don't have to seethe at their traditional texts like you do...
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>>18541639
>Hadith books are authentic because some dude said so.
I'm the one who is retarded? You really can't reason.
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>>18541636
Lmao. The Quran is a pile of rotting garbage not even fit for the education of savages. It is spiritual goyslop and talmud plagiarism on an industrial scale.
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>>18541642
>But the Quran totally comes from God because some dude said so
Lol.
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>>18541643
What to expect from an antichrist other than that?
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>>18541642
>The Quran is authentic because some dude says so
Your only way to square the retarded circle which is Islam is to ignore the earnest contributions of actual devout muslims over hundreds of years lmao. It is honestly hilarious.
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>>18541645
There's no bigger antichrist religion than your demonic cult.
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>>18541633
The Qur'an IS the Arabian Talmud.
See this guy exposing all the evidence that plenty of the Qur'an's content is directly lifted from Jewish stories: https://www.youtube.com/@defendingalion/videos
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>>18541655
No. Many Jewish and Christian stories were extracted from the Quran they corrupted. When did his become filled with low iq christcucks?
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Quran = Word of God

Hadith books = word from someone else

Simple math.
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>>18541617
Religions are always weird, you are just inoculated from finding your faiths of choice weird because you grew up with them.
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>>18541675
Religions are no mystery, but there is a HUGE difference between a religion and a religious institution.
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>>18541678
Religion implies a religious institution, what you probably mean to say is that there is a difference between religion and simple theism
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honestly seems like a pretty cool ability
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>>18541633
>considered heretics?
by who? the islamic pope?
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>>18541678
That seems like a cop-out, desu. If I'm reading you correctly.
Regardless, if we are doing this, then the OP question should have been why are Twelver Shia so weird? Given that's the specific thing the text comes from, iirc.

Regardless, I don't understand why anyone would be attracted to doing 2005 fedora atheism but For Islam except ex-muslims and bottom feeder christian pseudo-apologists. Not, not even Indians do this, mostly because they are even weirder and don't care.
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>>18541688
by 99% of muslims
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>>18541623
>>18541636
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>>18541637
Westernized muslims don't take them seriously anymore, because they've been mercilessly bullied by based westerners. If you were born in the stupid shithole you crawled out of, you would 100% believe it. Go thank Allah you were born here so you're slightly less retarded. Now all you need to do is throw the rest of your stupid backwards ass religion out as well. I will continue to mock you until you fully understand how stupid the entire thing is.
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>>18541617
All the Abrahamic religions are.
Buddhism
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>>18541633
sunni islam is very hadith driven and will abrogate the quran with hadiths
most muslims are in reality kufars because they don't follow the quran and they're gonna burn in hell according to the quran
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>>18541842
>SAAR!!
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>>18541623
Anon...The five daily prayers are not in the Quran
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>>18541859
At its core, Buddhism is basically the anti-hinduism/Jainism/etc, though. It's literally what it's designed to be.
I'll give you that nearlly all of Buddhism (sans Navayana, which all other buddhists hate, and or being the most anal retentive Theravadin ever) is just as bizarre and embarassing as every other religion though.
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>>18541889
This is not an endorsement of Navayana.
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>>18541636
>Atheists really can't reason. They can't use logic. The Quran is the Word of God, the Hadith books are not. Simple math.
then you dont know how to pray and the 5 pillars dont entirely exist in the quran.
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>>18541896
This is the funniest thing about Quranism, the religion as it is practiced doesn't even work without the Hadith
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>>18541859
Why are so many christcucks this retarded?
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>>18541617
Because the kindest interpretation of Islam is that it was put together by illiterate con-artists to con illiterate barbarians with the only goal being to give the con-artists the excuse to do whatever barbaric shit they wanted, steal shitloads of gold, and get as much pre-teen pussy as they wanted.
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>>18541949
He's correct, only jeets say "Abrahamic".
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Would /his/ suck on some toothpaste tube titties?
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Question to mooslams
If the Quran is the word of the final prophet, why should I ever listen to secondary texts, regardless of how “close” they might be or how “accurate they might be? As it seems that all the “scholars” that came after are just trying to tie these texts back to the Quran instead of coming up with an actual empirical methodology in doing so. Everytime someone’s example credible Hadiths, it boils down to “oh this guy was BFS’s with the prophet” or “this guys was his slave and cleaned his shitter for him so was constantly in his vicinity.’ And of course, that’s assuming that these texts were even truly written by the people they claim to have written them.
It just seems that if I had to be some kind of Muzz, Quran’s would just make the most sense.
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>>18542062
They don't, since they love Judaism. It is overwhelmingly atheists and pagans who recognise Abrahamic religions as a family.
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>>18541931
>This is the funniest thing about Quranism, the religion as it is practiced doesn't even work without the Hadith
That's because of how short the Quran is, even if you added in rough estimates for the lost holy books (Torah + Psalms + Diatessaron length Gospel) you don't even reach the Old Testament in length.
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>>18542344
not a muslim but something that might make it more understandable is that the hadith form the equivalent of canonical law and church dogma in catholicism neither of which have anything to do with the bible
i.e. it's just a bunch of extra shit added by powerful people who wanted to enforce more rules, concentrate more power and money between themselves and keep the peasantry in check
to draw further parallels; just like catholics and orthodox have same core shit with some different extra shit on top, so do sunni and shia. there are also older branches that exist but nobody cares about like ibadi who are the equivalent of oriental orthodox
quranists are the protestants of the islamic world (even though their intermittent existence is far longer); they even use the same arguments for abandoning extra material
the primary two ones being "original believers didn't believe in any of this" (christian equivalent being pre-dogmatic/canon law church, or even the pre-church "church") and "the book warned about this" (the quran explicitly states it's the only thing a muslim needs and that nothing has been neglected to be mentioned; the christian equivalent argument is about false preachers and jesus being the only way)
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>>18542344
You don't

Hadiths are garbage memes
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>>18542844
>>18542848
So if the Quran explicitly states it’s all any follower will ever need, then basically 99% of Muslims are heretics actually? That anons parallels to Christian sects is pretty helpful, but I don’t recall the bible ever stating a specific canon everyone needs to follow. Hell for those first few decades, most of what we now know as the gospels were orally transmitted.

Protestants are dumb because they want to go back to a “pre-church” church, or rather, a pre-establishment church. However, they couldn’t possibly have a clue as to what pre-establishment Christian’s actually did because the religion was so decentralized back then. Everyone used either different canons, canons that are now lost to us, or different versions of our canon. If Islam is more foot-on-the-ground about this, then it would make zero sense for haiths to exist.
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>>18542062
Not a jeet, and definitely not a fan of hinduism. Your simplistic and garbage categories need a serious update.
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>>18541617
>why
well the koran is a pile of poop
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>>18542910
Enough about the kikeble
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>>18542888
Muslims just want the Zutt story to be real, they love it.
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>>18542344
He wasn’t even the final prophet, it was the founder of Mormonism. Have you noticed how the region where the prophet receives a message from God becomes dominant for the next several centuries? The United States became the most powerful nation after Joseph Smith received God’s message. If Muhammad was the final prophet then the Middle East would haven’t been humiliated by Americans and Israelis for the past 30 years and counting. In other words, the Muslims are all worshiping the outdated message by God and are going to hell.


>b-but Joseph Smith was a charlatan!
And Muhammad wasn’t? The same arguments you make against Joseph Smith can be applied to him

>b-but God wouldn’t make up his mind!
How do you know what God is up to? He works in mysterious ways
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>>18542922
Nah bro, Quran is the most kike, i mean, cut your dick, no pork sabbat moved a day before, worshipping cubes, raping young gilrs, all very jewish. Whenever required a jew will become a muslim to use the mostly unthinking cattle that is muslims to do their bidding.
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>>18542962
imagine your religious prophet who was raped by a gang of nomadic indians.
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>>18542985
I think you’re mistaking me for a Muslim Mormonschizo. At least early Mormonism was more honest in that it was trying to be Islam for white people. Now it’s just pussywhipped “Christianity” for the American Patriot
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>>18541617
slaaneshi religion
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>>18541617
I mean, is it really that impossible that something like this can happen?

Some people are born with 2 heads or fur or some shit. This may just be a rare condition that was actually observed in islamic times.
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>>18543612
This would just be having really saggy breasts and not a medical condition, though ngl they would have be formed really weird for that to be true.
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>>18541636
>The Quran is the Word of God,
i thought it was the word of the angel gabriel. did mo ever talk to allah?
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>>18541645
you don't antichrist in islam habibi
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>>18541876
That doesn’t mean they come from the Hadith books either you retard. People were praying five salat before anybody went around and compiled Hadith
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>>18541655
No fucking shit, you’re telling me the story of Noah’s arc wasn’t an oc?



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