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Explain why I shouldn't be a misanthropist when it's clear as day humanity is a selfish, destructive, evil species
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>>18541708
Whats a misanthropist
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>>18541716
Essentially a person who views all of humanity negatively

There's kinda different levels or ideas to it
Some treat it as a philosophy

I'm assuming OP is more leaning towards antinatalism specifically since our boy Arthur is there
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>>18541722
Humanity is bad but why should i care, fuck dat lol
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>>18541734
>>18541716
Google exists and you're clearly new and/or underage
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>>18541708
you should not be a misanthropist due to those causes because they come from personal experiences
>I feel bad therefore humanity bad

You should be misanthropist as a contrarian take to the Will, independently if you are faring well or bad in life
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>>18541708
>why I shouldn't be a misanthropist
>humanity is a selfish, destructive, evil species
Because it's also an altruistic, creative, good species.

You can go round and round about it by shifting the goalpost of altruism, as has become fashionable among reductionists, but in the end you will have to acknowledge that whatever list you produce is so partial that its opposite is equally valid.
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>>18541708
Because Christ is risen
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>>18542567
I'll consider it

>>18542582
Humanity is responsible for very little "good", most human actions are destructive or violent than constructive or peaceful

The few "good" things humanity has done doesn't make up for the endless sea of horrible acts

>>18542590
I think christians are fucking hilarious because they supposedly have the divine knowledge of the bible and the love of Christ in their hearts but they still act like any regular retard out there

You would think someone who figured out the path to enlightenment would be much more wise, forgiving and non materialistic but the majority of christians are no better than the average atheist
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>>18541708
We can argue about whether people are good or bad all day long. The fact that being a misanthropist makes you miserable cannot be argued against.
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>>18542734
>Humanity is responsible for very little "good"
Very little compared to?
>most human actions are destructive
And creative at the same time.
> or violent
If you encounter (or enact) violence on a daily basis, ask for an early release.
>The few "good" things humanity has done doesn't make up for the endless sea of horrible acts
Judging by what standard?

See, all these (imho completely inconclusive and fallacious) arguments are comingn from one place: you had already given up on humanity in your heart for some reason and you're now trying to backwards-rationalize it. And the catastrophy is that you will find millions of ways to do so. Just like an unreasonable optimist would find a million reason for his particular bias. What you look for determines what you find. If I were you, I'd try to determine what makes me look for violence and evil. It might just be that you have a battle in you and just need to join a boxing gym.
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>>18541716
>>18541739
The word is "misanthrope."
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>>18542871
The truth is unappealing
I'd rather know the truth than live a comforting lie

>>18542883
>Very little compared to?
Very little in comparison to the amount of destruction and suffering they are responsible for

>And creative at the same time.
Oil paintings and music don't justify the horrors mankind is responsible for

>Judging by what standard?
Suffering
Humans are responsible for more suffering than anything else
That's the basic standard, how much suffering a person inflicts onto others and the vast majority of humanity is responsible for suffering
There is no cosmic law of good or bad, the only "good" is to help others or avoid inflicting suffering while the only bad is inflicting pain or suffering

There is literally no way around it, most human acts are acts of destruction or violence

anything else is cope

>I'd try to determine what makes me look for violence and evil
I don't go out of my way to intentionally "look for" violence or suffering
It's fucking everywhere and the fact that you can't see that shows how brainwashed you are
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>>18542914
>>Very little compared to?
>Very little in comparison to the amount of destruction and suffering they are responsible for
Ah, in that case completely untrue. Review your interactions today and count how much evil your actions produced. Unless you're doing something severely wrong, you produced more good than evil in sum total.
>>And creative at the same time.
>Oil paintings and music don't justify the horrors mankind is responsible for
I wasn't talking about oil paintings. Every destruction is a creation. Every coup is a start of a new kingdom. If you hear "destruction" and think ALL HUMAN ACTIVITY and when you hear "creation" you think uhhh oil on canvas then it's not really your argumentation that's wrong, it's your calibration of perspective.
>Humans are responsible for more suffering than anything else
Not granted. Review today's interactions.
>most human acts are acts of destruction or violence
Not granted. Review today's interactions.
>I don't go out of my way to intentionally "look for" violence or suffering
Consciously? No, of course not. But associating associating destruction with most human activities whereas associating creativity with a few art disciplines is a miscalibration that's literally impossible to achieve unless you (even if subsconsciously) aim to find precisely that: more destruction, more violence, more suffering than anything else.

Tell you what, why don't you tell me how you enacted violence and suffering today and how it compares to any non-suffering you caused today.
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>>18542931
>Review your interactions today and count how much evil your actions produced
Everything we do is linked to some form of destruction since most of the crap we consume comes in single use packaging
Even something as basic as a bottled water is contributing to some corrupt giga corporation that will rape the earth, profit off of cruel working conditions, finance oppressive political entities, etc
I don't try to talk to people in my town anymore since they always say the most retarded or hateful shit
Our actions absolutely are destructive no matter what, that's the why the system is

>Every destruction is a creation.
yes
but I don't think tearing a forest to build a Wal-Mart is "good"
We destroyed so much natural beauty to build useless consumerism shelters
The majority of the shit we buy or what it comes packaged in will end up in the trash

>Review today's interactions
>Review today's interactions
already did
Nothing that happened today justifies continuing this monstrous species' existence
Thinking some lady telling me to have a good day would justify all the violence and destruction is childish

>aim to find precisely that
It's not about "finding" a damn thing
It's about living with an uncensored view of the world instead of settling for a comforting lie

>why don't you tell me how you enacted violence and suffering today
The first thing that comes to mind are the groceries I bought which will contribute in some form to environmental destruction and were likely sourced from underpaid workers in a developing country
Consuming media such as music or TV is also contributing to an evil industry full of evil producers
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