Why did America attack Japan like this?
>>18542204FDR wanted to drag America into WW2 so he deliberately provoked Japan into war by cutting off their oil and issuing the Hull note ultimatum
>>18542204FDR mogs this gay samurai so hard
>>18542204The tl;dr is that the Japanese enforcement of their state religion put a stop to foreskin harvesting operations in East and Southeast Asia.
Didn’t know FDR had a flying wheelchair wtf that’s so cool
>>18542204Are weebs too low iq to understand cause-and-effect? What do they think the Japs were doing before all of this, drawing tentacle porn?
>>18542245What right did Japan have to American products like oil and dutch rubber?
>>18542204 Japs shouldn’t have invaded China Also guy who created Time magazine was a big China shill
>>18542473None. But this is irrelevant. The point being made is America deliberately provoked Japan into attacking. It doesn’t make Japan in the right but it does remove America’s “we were a true neutral just minding our own business until we were suddenly and deliberately attacked by the empire of Japan.”America had picked a side and hope it would give them a reason to be more involved so they might expand their pacific empire.I recall I think the last thread someone said American soldiers were fighting for trans rights and desegregation, then when proven wrong they left the thread. Was that you? If it’s not ok, but you’re making the same post verbatim they did.America wasn’t the good guy in WWII not by any standard and liberals and leftists can never be good, they’re ontologically evil. Orc souls.>>18542494Why not?America invaded China.
>>18542503Sucks to suck, big dog, US doesn't owe Japan nothing, should've looked for alternative oil providerShame they didn't nuke Tokyo, would've been funny seeing japs cope about their divine emperor being vaporized
>>18542524>vae victus??????????Isn’t that what you said about China?So Japan did nothing wrong right? Japan was only playing by sucks to suck rules with China, you agree?FYI, you still haven’t defended your original position.The U.S. was a bad actor deliberately provoking Japan.Sucks to suck isn’t a defense of U.S. character.Also>ceding the moral high groundYep it’s a leftist.This is why Japan won. You allow leftists to live, you lose.Japan’s HDI is higher and they’re more homogenous.America is a shithole.By your logic every jew, pole, nigger, who ever died by White hands deserved it because they suck lmao.Only lefties cede morality with such ease.Post your address so I can make you suck me off? Sucks to suck lmao
>>18542552you are sap mr jap
>>18542524And now China replaced America as glibal leader in manufacturing and hegemon of the world.
>>18542629China isn't a hegemon by any means. Their influence is limited to North Korea and other undeveloped shitholes. Half of their neighbors actively hate them and prepare for war against them.
>>18542610I am an American, my ancestors came here during the English civil war. We should have supported Japan.Nazis and Imperial Japan are preferable to shitlibs. At least Germans and Asians are attractive, unlike niggers.
>>18542552Germans are not White.
>>18542695You're a sap, Mr. Jap, you make a Yankee crankyYou're a sap, Mr. Jap, Uncle Sammy's gonna spankyWait and see before we're doneThe A, B, C and D will sink your rising sunYou're a sap, Mr. Jap, you don't know Uncle SammyWhen he fights for his rights, you'll take it on the lammyFor he'll wipe the Axis right off the mapYou're a sap, sap sap, Mr. Jap
>>18542720You share a haplotype with Indians lol>>18542723wtf /his/ told me White American are bad and non-Whites are le good???
>>18542725You're a sap, Mr. Jap, oh what a load to carryDon't you know, don't you know, you're committing hari-kari
>>18542503>America deliberately provoked Japan into attacking.Not selling goods isn't a provocation. Japan could have perceived to take it as one, but that just means Japan was wrong and acted stupid in response instead of collectively.
>>18542503When did America invade China?
>>18542503Can you explain specifically how "we reserve the right to refuse service" is in any way a provocation in enough to justify a response of violence?
>>18542741Who is the target audience? I am not Japanese.>>18542748It is a provocation. It was intended to draw Japan into hostilities with the United States. The United States was also simultaneously sending materiel support to Japan’s adversary China.The US was not a neutral party and international laws and precedents then and now recognizes the United States was not a neutral party.>>185427491900 Peking.>>18542755>we reserve the right to refuse serviceCan I see this in the U.S. Japanese trade treaty?>but it’s not justifiedWho said it was?It was the U.S.’ own fault they were attacked by Japan lol.The U.S. was sending weapons to Japan’s enemies.The U.S. denormalized trade with Japan.The U.S. wanted an excuse to expand their pacific empire.Normally I would approve this, being an American who does like non-Whites living on my SoCal vacation spot, but because you’re a shitlib who’s only performatively pro-West from 1939-1945, I must correct your historical and political errors.
>>18542777why gaylter blow his brain out while Red Army Heroes had fun with nazi whores in berlin?
>>18542779He couldn't handle the sight of Polish Gods marching tru Berlin
To be entirely honest, this war was a forgone conclusion at any rate.
>>18542779>>18542785>larp as Polish nationalists to make the chuds in-fightYou don’t know this, but we are in the discord where this was discussed.Everyone hates niggersEveryone is tired of women having rightsLeftism has been thoroughly discredited.Everyone knows the Jewish lefties side with the Israeli far right.Everyone knows brown lefties are gibs pirates.Everyone knows White lefties are self hating cucks.Everyone knows Troons and homos are childrapistsEveryone knows niggers are race hustlers.You lost. The charade is up.Your coalition is gone. Your ideas are worthless.Please don’t make exterminating you harder than it need be. Leave the board in peace.
>>18542804Polish Gods always rape and colonise germs tho
>>18542777>It was intended to draw Japan into hostilities with the United States.It was intended to stop hostilities due to Japan's needless land grabbing of French Indochina. If Japan never illegally invaded french indochina (which they agreed not to do prior) the embargo would never have happened.>The United States was also simultaneously sending materiel support to Japan’s adversary China.They also sold to Japan until Japan pushed the US away leaving only China. Japan chose not to be traded with.>PekingAh so an irrelevant skirmish that has nothing to do with World War 2.>The United States wanted an excuse to expand their pacific empire.Except you have no proof of this while all historians agree America was simply giving Japan an ultimatum for breaking their promise of not seizing French Indochina.
No, we will not sell you oil while you're butchering civilians.
>>18542503>they have no right to it>but america provoked them by refusing to sellThere are so many reasons to hate FDR but this is overtly retarded.
Reading this thread once again reminds me that fascists are both dumb and emotional. America was right to slap the axis powers around and if Japan didn’t want to be broken over the knee of the United States, they shouldn’t have escalated a nonviolent refusal to support their invasion of china to open armed conflict.
>>18543161>non-White state didn’t want to be buck broken by segregated White supremacist state they should have obeyed White people’s decreeWhy?
>>18543167Because escalating a nonviolent act of refusal to full blown violence when the other party is substantially stronger than you is moronic? I’d argue the ethics of it, but fascists don’t get more than Neanderthal tier might makes right arguments.
>>18542204You are now owed access to white people.
>>18543158Hate FDR?? What? No one hates FDR over this.The common myth among MAGAboomers, now apparently signal boosted by Chinese spies, is the United States was a neutral power minding its own business when Japan driven by imperial ambition and a desire to display TRVE BVSHIDO attack innocent and unsuspecting America thus forcing the peace loving Whites into war.This is obviously a myth and completely untrue.Why are lefties suddenly pro-Imperialism? They are pro-Imperialism when it’s against their ideological opposition.As the saying goes for bunkertroons, no bad tactics only bad targets.Imperialism is to be defended when perceived to furthers their goals.Now maybe (You)re not a leftist brigading the board, but you are making posts verbatim that I have seen in their discord when they are brigading the board.
>>18543135Why not? America has no problem butchering civilians over oil itself or selling oil to Israel or to the UK.What’s the reason for making an exception for Japan?Are you Chinese? Tiny pp angry that America has to save you from Samurai BVLLs?
>>18542841>intended to stop hostilities1. Where did they say this in internal memos?2. Why would they want to stop the hostilities? Japan vs China only weakens both of them and a more thoughtful American strategist wouldn’t interrupt their enemy when they’re making a mistake.Enter the war when Japan takes British colonies like Australia, appeal to the Pan European Race against the alien asiatics.Was FDR retarded?Chinks aren’t even worth saving, look at how they abuse America’s good will today.>illegally invadedSo if Japan legally invaded, America would be fine with it?Japan legally invaded China but America wasn’t fine with it.Japan also didn’t illegally invade the French holdings, they had their legal cover among anti-colonialist movements.You can say Japan was trying to muscle in as a new master, which I am skeptical of given Japan’s historical behavior, but on paper it wasn’t an illegal invasion.Japan never broke off trade with the U.S. since the U.S. forced them to trade, why even life about this?>you have no proof of this????The U.S. literally used the war against Japan to expand their empire.If the outcome isn’t proof of intent, then YOUR argument about a warmongering Japan totally collapses because the outcomes from Japan’s wars were more often than not liberation from imperialism.>ah so irrelevant skirmish??????You literally denied that the U.S. had troops in China against the wishes of the Chinese lmfao.You were wrong now you’re calling it irrelevant.China was the world’s brothel and now you are pretending it wasn’t a victim of American imperialism?>seizingStop using this word. Japan didn’t seize anything.Unless Japan went full Mongol, they didn’t seize anything.They had collaborationists and anti colonialists.If you mean simply exercising military control well, America did that far more than Japan and to more countries in the previous and current decade leading up to 1941.
>>18543191Stop coping you admitted it they didn’t have the right and refusing service is not a valid casus belli
>>18543179>might makes right“Fascists” do not and have not ever believed this. Leftists believe this and project it onto others. It is why leftists will justify literally anything in the name of furthering their own ends.“No bad tactics only bad targets” it’s why leftists will overlook any number of crimes when done to further their “struggle” while crying bloody murder over something innocuous if it just happens to be done against leftism.What a disingenuous hypocritical people. I am glad leftism has been discredited as a coalition of the subhuman.>non-violent actAmerica’s support of Israel against Lebanon has been entirely non-violent. Yet we hear daily about how America and the settler colonial state must die from the left.Let’s just be honest here. Sending weapons to someone in a fight is an act of indirect violence.America was just as guilty of this in 1941 as they were in 1951, 61, 71, 81, 01.Japan was responding to hostile escalation from the United States with hostile escalation.You can argue Japan was in the wrong, but you cannot argue America was in the right.A leftist would argue America was right, a non-leftist would argue America doesn’t need to be right to supported by Americans. American imperialism, when benefitting White Americans, IS good enough.
>>18543218What’s the cope? I dismantled your argument and pointed out your hypocrisy.
>>18543218If only the Japanese waited 20 years to invade China, then the american civil rights act would've made refusing service illegal...
>>18543211>>18543230japs allied with germutts (who got raped beyond any reason) so this was their fault
>>18543230>but you cannot argue America was in the rightI can, actually, Unit 731 and Nanking alone justify itCould've done conquest like everyone else but noooo, Jap had to try being particularly monstrous about it, and then they got what they deserved, some arguments can be made that they got off easy
>>18542503You're being flamed, but you're right. You can't tease a schizo and expect them to do nothing. The Japanese response was retarded (and the US had every right to retaliate), but FDR wasn't truly neutral either
>>18543514>>18543701>black legendKeep coping. America was in the wrong and America suffers for it.If the principle you followed lead you here, of what use was the principle?Multiple US and UK veterans said the war wasn’t worth it.
>>18542741>>18542695>>18542610>>18542524>IESLB rangersFuck you!
>>18543837americans and soviet was right to genocide and rape nazis
>>18542246Well he has a flying wheel chair built by Einstein . Technology like that moggs everything.
>>18543701Also, wasn't FDR already funding and arming the flying tigers 9 months before pearl harbor? You don't care about neutrality if you are equipping active duty pilots through a shell company and paying them a bounty for each Japanese plane shot down.
>>18544181we're sorry but the rape of chinese infants will have to stop
>>18542204Why is Woodrow Wilson so based here? Isn't he supposed to be the bad guy or something?
>>18544300Oh, it's Roosevelt. My bad.
>>18542804>right wing is....when you hate niggers or something Classic.
>>18543211>Japan legally invaded China but America wasn’t fine with it.America couldn't give a shit when Japan invaded China? Why lie? They only started caring when they started seizing European colonies they illegally invaded.
>>18543232You didn’t, you rambled a bunch of bullshit after admitting it they didn’t have the right to be sold oil.
>>18543211>whataboutismNo. America taking random islands in the Pacific doesn't equate to Japan committing atrocities all across Asia. They had no right to demand and conquer other nations. Their war Hawks in government wanted war and structured it so it would happen. It is Japan's fault they bit off more then they can chew and they were morally in the wrong in the way they did it using sneak attacks.And no. Just because America (who supported both sides) gave up their support for Japan and still kept selling stuff to China that doesn't give Japan the right to unjustly attack America.
>>18543927Evidently the veterans regretted ever fighting Germany and their descendants are grinding their axes against lefties, non-Whites and Poles.The most recent example being Zelenskyy giving honors to the Banderites and the Poles kurwa’ing out over it and being smacked down by the EU.>>18544278Can we see these 40 beheaded babies?>>18544300What’s based about it?
>>18544407Where are the leftists who hate niggers, Slavs, and support White nationalism??I mean yeah, ethnic loyalty does appear to be an exclusively right wing phenomena. Comes with the territory of not being a “worgers of da worl unite xdddd”>>18544443>America only cared when Japan was de-colonizing east Asiawait a minute, /his/ told me colonialism was le bad?Why are you supporting interventionism to stop decolonization?I would otherwise support this but now I am curious because the anti-Axis posters are squarely leftists.>>18544446Nope. I explained how America’s actions were intended to provoke a response to Japan to justify American expansionism.You are now mask-off just arguing for naked expansionism: America! Instead of expansionism: Japan!Why are you doing this? I thought you were against White supremacy?Can we get a TND from you?>>18544996>atrocitiesBlack legend.Nothing Japan did was uniquely bad. Maybe you don’t understand asian culture?
>america landed 56 marines as part of an international coalition>this is equivalent to raping and genociding 10,000,000 peoplejdpon for japaneSSe
>>18545301>rape is bad nowwtf >>18543927 told me rape is le good ???>>18544407>right wingRight wing?Who said anything about right wing?We aren’t gay race communists, that doesn’t make us right wing lmfao.You also are a not a fan of blacks right?
>>18545169>>18545213>>18545374
>>18545213>colonialism was le badIrrelevant to the topic. Your opinions on modern politics as a reflection of the past has nothing to do with the discussion. Europeans had colonies. What right did Japan have to take away those colonies and make it their own? Why keep dodging this question?
>>18545213>provoke a responseSo yoy are saying Japanese people have no agency over their actions? They could of easily just not responded.>white supremacy Do you seriously think /his/ is a hive mind? Also still funny you keep bringing in modern politics to a historical discussion. Why keep deflecting?>Nothing Japan did was uniquely badOn all accounts from Europeans in China and Asia. Yes it was uniquely bad. Japan had no right to deny medical service to foreign citizens in the Philippines for an example.
>>18545213>Nope. I explained how America’s actions were intended to provoke a response to Japan to justify American expansionismAgain you didn’t, you rambled a bunch of a bullshit while ignoring that refusing service is not a valid casus belli and that you already said they didn’t have the right to be sold oil. Stop coping. >Why are you doing this? I thought you were against White supremacy?>Can we get a TND from you?Schizophrenia, kill yourself kike.
>>18545374>still bringing up modern politics and thinks /his/ is a hive mindHow mind broken are you?
>>18545374You think rape is good? Explain in great detail why? Surely it can't be because "random person on internet saud so" yes?
>>18545931Me? No. >>18543927 said rape is right
>>18545930Modern politics?Where?>>18545927>refusing service is not a valid cassus belli1. Yes it is.2. That isn’t what’s being debate.What’s on trial is if America was in the wrong, based on intent and outcome, yes, the case for America being in the wrong is significantly stronger than the case for an indifferent neutral America.>the rightThe right?Right? Rights don’t exist.Rights are a privilege given to citizens under an authority.Rights don’t apply anywhere to this conversation.>le kikeYou are a leftist.America is punished for its bad policy via niggers.
>>18545915>it’s not relatedBut it is.It’s not modern at all either.You’re a leftist, you’re opposing an axis power because you believe it furthers your political goals, however you are not in favor of European colonialism, you are employing a divide and conquer strategy where you want two enemies of yours to disqualify each other.You’re not arguing in good faith.>what rightRights don’t exist.Rights are privileges granted to those by an authority. They do not apply here.>dodgingI never dodged it. I said a leftist such as yourself should support decolonization which is why I am skeptical as to the intent behind your critique of decolonization regarding its implantation by an axis power.>>18545925>no agencyThey had agency and they chose a hostile escalation to a hostile escalation>hivemind????>modern politics???????Leftism didn’t exist until 2010 now????What’s the deflection?You’re a leftist. You’re not arguing in good faith.You’re pro decolonization but you won’t defend it when it’s done by one of your ideological opponents.>all accountsSo three accounts from proven liars?Got it.Another black legend.Nothing Japan did was uniquely bad.>rightRights don’t exist
we should've executed hirohito
whats the deal with that retarded post formating, is he autistic?
