Refute this
>>18542808In Christian mythology, God is the one torturing sinners in Hell - not Satan.
>>18542808>>18542815In Christianity and Islam God kills millions of people and Satan only kills 10 after asking God for permission first. Then God sends satan to hell with the disbelievers and God punishes them. The reason abrahamics think satan punishes them is because of a moral incoherency. They belive God is nice so they do not even realize their own book says he is the punisher lol.
Of course you post low hanging fruit twitter retardation instead of posting an actual, interesting conversation starter like for example the question of whether a moral God would actually create an eternal hell or not. Even that one is super simplistic (the answer is 'no'), but at least it brings in retards with 30 IQ points higher than the ones who would discuss stuff like your pic related.
>>18542808Because shaytan is sadistically evul and hates all humans
>>18542808the devil doesn't have free will
>>18542808It's this >>18542815Or more specifically, Satan simply acts on Gods behalf, God is the one ultimately responsible for Hell and for sending people there. Satan at best is just another occupant
>>18542808Make me, faggot.
>>18542808The devil won’t torment you, God will. Any more questions?
>>18542815>In Christian mythology
>>18543020Yes, unless you believe the Earth is 6,000 years old.
>>18542808>Refute thisEasy, her conception of Hell comes from Hollywood and cartoons.
>>18542808God creates Hell because he hates sin.God does not *want* people to go to Hell. He wants to punish sin.Jesus Christ took the ultimate punishment for sin, and "descended to the lower parts of the earth" for three days and nights. During this, he suffered in Hell for an infinitude for every person's sins in all of history. Everyone has a free out of Hell, should they accept it.Satan, however, wants everyone to go to Hell, because he knows that he is condemned to go there after the Judgement.Important to remember: all things are created for God's "good pleasure." Everything that exists only exists to glorify him in one way or the other. Either by pointing to his goodness, or by contrasting against his goodness.
>>18542808HELL IS WHERE YOU GO AFTER DAMNING YOURSELF FOR REJECTING GOD; IF YOU ARE NOT WITH GOD, YOU ARE WITH SATAN; IF YOU ARE WITH SATAN, YOUR ULTIMATE END IS TO BE ETERNALLY TORTURED BY SATAN; THAT IS WHAT SATAN DOES; DO THESE MORONS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT, IF YOU GO TO HELL, YOU GO THERE TO BE LOVED BY SATAN?IT WILL NEVER CEASE TO BE ABSURD AND RIDICULOUS HOW MOST ATHEISTS BASE THEIR ENTIRE EXISTENCE ON REJECTING GOD, AND, SIMULTANEOUSLY, THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIS CHURCH: THE BLIND WHO HATE THE LIGHT.
>>18542808>Refute thisIf we're restricted to Christianity: not all of them, but some of them, perceive Hell as more of a "spiritual storage unit" for anti-social and otherwise spiritually maladaptive souls. They're not being tortured by God, or even "The Devil" for that matter, they're being quarantined in another kind of Heaven, but whatever is left of their *consciousness is so rancid, so dogshit, such a vile horrible little spec, that as a community they're completely hopeless. Hell is completely *automated: people in Hell torture themselves. *This is also something of a mercy: people in Hell have completely alienated themselves from the empathy that animates and empowers God, so to be put in the presence of God would supposedly create "a suffering so intense only the dead can experience it". If we're NOT restricted to Christianity: a lot of the East Asian religions, and Hinduism, perceive Hell as a spiritual processing site. In this case souls are, actively, being tortured for two reasons: to serve out a determined sentence as a form of penance or punishment for evil deeds enacted in life that weren't otherwise brought to justice and/or they're being purified (and it fucking hurts) in order to refine and clean the soul so it can safely recirculate back into the system and have another chance at heaven.
>>18543121God is the one who decided that people who don't believe in him go to hell, it is his design
Pop culture misconception. The devil isn’t the ruler of hell; he’s the no.1 prisoner.
>>18543147I. SALVATION REQUIRES MORE THAN BELIEF.II. THE DAMNED CANNOT ENTER PARADISE BECAUSE THEY ARE VOID OF GRACE, AND THEY ARE VOID OF GRACE BECAUSE THEY REJECTED CHRIST.WHERE WOULD THESE SOULS GO? THAT DESTINATION IS HELL —WHERE ELSE? WHY WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED ENTRY INTO PARADISE, IF THEY EMBRACED SATAN, AND REJECTED GOD?TRASH HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.
>>18543019Since torture is badDoesn't it prove that god is not all good?
>>18542808There is no hell in the bible.No hell in Judaism.No hell in Christianity.Hell was invented in the medieval period, 1200 years after Christ and it's based on Norse mythology, not Christian.
>>18543102Why did god create sin in the first place if he hates it so much and is the creator of everything?
>>18543308Yes hel is the godess of the underworld in Norse mythology also the realm is helheim a cold place of the dead. Early Christians also used the term hades a term the stole from Greek pagans.
>>18543206>TRASH HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.not if your an omnipotent god that could do whatever he wants.
>>18543027I believe this
>>18543305Torture is bad if it is unmerited, but you deserve eternal torture, so God is good for this.
>>18545560so if its good to give beings what they deserve then you would say god would be justified if he created infinite beings that deserve infinite suffering and then forced infinite suffering onto them? also, what makes someone's finite sins translate into infinite punishment?
How do they not realize the devil hates them?That's why he is fucking with people currently, it's pure hate.
It's not demons the one who will torture you on hell, it's angels. Angels specifically created for this purpose:>And those men carried me to the northern region; and they showed me there a very frightful place; and all kinds of torture and torment are in that place, cruel darkness and lightless gloom. And there is no light there, and a black fire blazes up perpetually, with a river of fire that comes out over the whole place, fire here, freezing ice there, and it dries up and it freezes; and very cruel places of detention and dark AND MERCILESS ANGELS, CARRYING INSTRUMENTS OF ATROCITIES TORTURING WITHOUT PITY.>And I said, “Woe, woe! How very frightful this place is!” And those men said to me, “This place, Enoch, has been prepared for those who do not glorify God, who practice on the earth the sin, which is against nature, which is child corruption in the anus in the manner of Sodom, of witchcraft, enchantments, divinations, trafficking with demons, who boast about their evil deeds – (stealing, lying, insulting, coveting, resentment, fornication, murder) – and who steal the souls of men secretly, seizing the poor by the throat, taking away their possessions, enriching themselves from the possessions of others, defrauding them; who, when they are able to provide sustenance, bring about the death of the hungry by starvation; and, when they are able to provide clothing, take away the last garment of the naked; who do not acknowledge their Creator, but bow down to idols which have no souls, which can neither see nor hear, vain gods; constructing images, and bowing down to vile things made by hands – for all these this place has been prepared as an eternal reward.”
>>18546166He's racist. He didn't like people inferior to him being created.
